[DeTomaso] Water in glove box

Konrad Szwab kszwab at gmail.com
Mon Sep 19 09:24:07 EDT 2016


Soviet spacesuits. Same method, a bit better tools.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, marshallgsmith <
marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>    Hey Larry,
>
>    Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your
>    proctologist?
>
>    M
>
>    Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>    -------- Original message --------
>    From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>    Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00)
>    To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
>    Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but
>    I never thought of car leaks.
>    Awesome!
>    Dvae
>    On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>    > Robert,
>    >
>    >
>    > I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak.
>    On my
>    > big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter
>    plate, with
>    > hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window
>    down 5
>    > or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to
>    seal
>    > it.
>    >
>    > The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in
>    it. I
>    > use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
>    >
>    > When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are
>    now
>    > pressurizing the cabin of the car.
>    >
>    > Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you
>    have a
>    > leak.  You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
>    >
>    > Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>    Behalf
>    > Of Robert Stroj
>    > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM
>    > To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
>    >
>    > Hi,
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a
>    leak
>    > trough the went tube.
>    >
>    > My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever
>    below the
>    > AC control button.
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I
>    would
>    > estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
>    through
>    > window gasket.I hope!
>    >
>    > Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember
>    noticing that
>    > window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope
>    that is
>    > OK.
>    >
>    > Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and
>    check if
>    > I can find what's going on there.
>    >
>    > I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged
>    and then
>    > all water just leaks trough vent opening.
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg at yahoo.ca]
>    > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM
>    > To: jgkrenton at comcast.net; Robert Stroj;
>    detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder
>    that was
>    > installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub".  In addition there
>    is a
>    > water drain in the cowl vent "tub".  In the event of a crack or
>    corrosion in
>    > the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the
>    leak.
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > HTH
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >    _____
>    >
>    > From: "jgkrenton at comcast.net" <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
>    > To: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
>    > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM
>    > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
>    >
>    >
>    >    Dolomites are beautiful.
>    >    On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills
>    up
>    >    the glove box.
>    >    It rains in Seattle.
>    >    FYI.
>    >    Jeff
>    >
>    __________________________________________________________________
>    >
>    >    From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs at maui.net>
>    >    To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    >    Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM
>    >    Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
>    >
>    >
>    >    Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front
>    right
>    >    carpet
>    >    getting wet in the foot area.
>    >    Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was
>    >    totally
>    >    filled with water!
>    >    Driver side seems to stay dry.
>    >    This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy
>    >    spraying
>    >    around the door frames etc...
>    >    I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes
>    behind the
>    >    hood?
>    >    It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it
>    stayed
>    >    dry.
>    >    Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get
>    water
>    >    inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...?
>    >    Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to
>    look/how
>    >    to
>    >    fix?
>    >    Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing
>    happens.
>    >    Would
>    >    that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired
>    wrong?
>    >    Thanks, Robert
>    >    PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to
>    pull
>    >    out
>    >    front fender lip a bit :)
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   Soviet spacesuits. Same method, a bit better tools.

   On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, marshallgsmith
   <[1]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

     A  A Hey Larry,
     A  A Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your
     A  A proctologist?
     A  A M
     A  A Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
     A  A -------- Original message --------
     A  A From: Dave Londry <[2]davel at emspace.com>
     A  A Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00)
     A  A To: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     A  A Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system
     leaks, but
     A  A I never thought of car leaks.
     A  A Awesome!
     A  A Dvae
     A  A On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
     A  A > Robert,
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find
     water leak.
     A  A On my
     A  A > big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an
     adapter
     A  A plate, with
     A  A > hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with
     the window
     A  A down 5
     A  A > or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters
     tape to
     A  A seal
     A  A > it.
     A  A >
     A  A > The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of
     soap in
     A  A it. I
     A  A > use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
     A  A >
     A  A > When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole"
     you are
     A  A now
     A  A > pressurizing the cabin of the car.
     A  A >
     A  A > Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up
     where you
     A  A have a
     A  A > leak.A  You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
     A  A >
     A  A > Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > -----Original Message-----
     A  A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@
     server.detomasolist.com] On
     A  A Behalf
     A  A > Of Robert Stroj
     A  A > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM
     A  A > To: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     A  A >
     A  A > Hi,
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a
     case of a
     A  A leak
     A  A > trough the went tube.
     A  A >
     A  A > My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a
     pull-lever
     A  A below the
     A  A > AC control button.
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly
     1L I
     A  A would
     A  A > estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible
     to get
     A  A through
     A  A > window gasket.I hope!
     A  A >
     A  A > Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember
     A  A noticing that
     A  A > window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon,
     so hope
     A  A that is
     A  A > OK.
     A  A >
     A  A > Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around
     wipers and
     A  A check if
     A  A > I can find what's going on there.
     A  A >
     A  A > I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be
     plugged
     A  A and then
     A  A > all water just leaks trough vent opening.
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:[6]andriykoisg at yahoo.ca]
     A  A > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM
     A  A > To: [7]jgkrenton at comcast.net; Robert Stroj;
     A  A [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or
     cylinder
     A  A that was
     A  A > installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub".A  In
     addition there
     A  A is a
     A  A > water drain in the cowl vent "tub".A  In the event of a crack
     or
     A  A corrosion in
     A  A > the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source
     of the
     A  A leak.
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > HTH
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A  _____
     A  A >
     A  A > From: "[9]jgkrenton at comcast.net" <[10]jgkrenton at comcast.net>
     A  A > To: Robert Stroj <[11]npdrs at maui.net>
     A  A > Cc: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM
     A  A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A  Dolomites are beautiful.
     A  A >A  A  On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking
     that fills
     A  A up
     A  A >A  A  the glove box.
     A  A >A  A  It rains in Seattle.
     A  A >A  A  FYI.
     A  A >A  A  Jeff
     A  A >
     A  A ____________________________________________________________
     ______
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A  From: "Robert Stroj" <[13]npdrs at maui.net>
     A  A >A  A  To: [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A >A  A  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM
     A  A >A  A  Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A >A  A  Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was
     finding front
     A  A right
     A  A >A  A  carpet
     A  A >A  A  getting wet in the foot area.
     A  A >A  A  Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash
     and it was
     A  A >A  A  totally
     A  A >A  A  filled with water!
     A  A >A  A  Driver side seems to stay dry.
     A  A >A  A  This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash
     without crazy
     A  A >A  A  spraying
     A  A >A  A  around the door frames etc...
     A  A >A  A  I guess it must somehow come in through the front went
     holes
     A  A behind the
     A  A >A  A  hood?
     A  A >A  A  It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose
     up it
     A  A stayed
     A  A >A  A  dry.
     A  A >A  A  Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not
     really get
     A  A water
     A  A >A  A  inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...?
     A  A >A  A  Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions
     where to
     A  A look/how
     A  A >A  A  to
     A  A >A  A  fix?
     A  A >A  A  Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first
     nothing
     A  A happens.
     A  A >A  A  Would
     A  A >A  A  that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they
     are wired
     A  A wrong?
     A  A >A  A  Thanks, Robert
     A  A >A  A  PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just
     trying to
     A  A pull
     A  A >A  A  out
     A  A >A  A  front fender lip a bit :)
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