[DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 18 17:27:23 EDT 2016


I thought I have heard that Chevron DELO 400 is about the same Rotella? 

      From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
 To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
 Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
   
  Good Morning Everyone,
  I don't want to startup the oil discussion again.  But does anyone have
  thoughts on
  Rotella Type T 15w40.  Which is a heavy duty diesel oil.  It was
  suggested by a local
  Mustang shop.  I like to use the best oil.  No synthetics.
  My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades) has
  about 3,500 miles
  on it and running great.
  Thanks so much.
  Terry

  "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

  Terry W. Himes

  JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

  Dawn Spacecraft Team

  Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

  Phone: (818) 393-6261

  Cell:    (818) 653-8213

  Fax:    (818) 393-3147

  [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

  From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
  of Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
  To: Owen Cooke <[4]owen at tadhgcooke.com>,
  "[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19

  It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling system,
  although I have to wonder which of the particular changes contributed
  most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a bulk of
  the problem.
  I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it overheated
  in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
  swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a setup.
  When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I found it
  was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland t-stat and
  voila heating issues resolved.
  It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying out big
  $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated about
  these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in the way
  of a good story"
  Julian
  ________________________________
  From: DeTomaso <[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
  of Owen Cooke <[8]owen at tadhgcooke.com>
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
  To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
  guys
  i had overheating problems
  i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the rad
  back to the swirl tank  and no fitting in halls rad for it apart from a
  top bleed screw
  so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the bleed pipe
  to it
  then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock brackets
  and wired them directly from the battery  to the relays
  i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
  i removed that and fitted a new stat
  now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c or
  195f  in all conditions
  my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but its
  steady and i know what to expect
  very happy with result
  owen cooke
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        1. Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)

        2. Re: Fans and shroud (Himes, Terry (397C))

        3. Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)

        4. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (LSJ)

        5. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)

        6. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)

        7. Re: Fans and shroud (Larry Stock)

        8. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)

        9. Re: Fans and shroud (Ken Green)

      10.  McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)

      11. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)

      12. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)

      13. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Will Kooiman)

      14. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)

      15. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Stock)

      16. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)

      17. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Julian Kift)

      18. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)

      19. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)

      20. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)

      21. NPC, Need transmission suggestions (michael frazier)

      22. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (David Nunn)

      23. Re: NPC, Need transmission suggestions (bill)

      24. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (bill)

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  Message: 1

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700

  From: Jack Donahue <[16]demongusta at gmail.com>

  To: "[17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Cc: "[19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Message-ID: <[21]CF682A66-9CF9-422E-AD65-2D23A9ABE4BC at gmail.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

  Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
  about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
  since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I
  have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
  broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
  There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
  right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
  ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.

  Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
  suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
  sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
  and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
  since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
  perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
  offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
  me.

  So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

  jack

  #4348

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  Message: 2

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000

  From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[22]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>

  To: Jack Donahue <[23]demongusta at gmail.com>,

          "[24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[25]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Message-ID: <[26]D4016E9F.92F3B%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  Jack,

  Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new fans.  I'm
  not going to change it

  now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to deal with
  it.  So keep posting and

  I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)

  Terry

  "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

      stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

  Terry W. Himes

  JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

  Dawn Spacecraft Team

  Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

  Phone: (818) 393-6261

  Cell:    (818) 653-8213

  Fax:    (818) 393-3147

  [27]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[28]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

  ??

  From: DeTomaso
  <[29]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<[30]mailto:detomaso-bounc
  es at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Jack Donahue
  <[31]demongusta at gmail.com<[32]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>

  Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM

  To:
  "[33]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[34]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
  solist.com>"
  <[35]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[36]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
  solist.com>>

  Cc:
  "[37]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[38]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
  solist.com>"
  <[39]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[40]mailto:detomaso at server.detoma
  solist.com>>

  Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
  about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
  since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I
  have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
  broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
  There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
  right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
  ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.

  Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
  suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
  sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
  and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
  since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
  perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
  offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
  me.

  So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

  jack

  #4348

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        Jack,

        Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new
  fans.  I'm

        not going to change it

        now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to deal
  with

        it.  So keep posting and

        I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)

        Terry

        "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

        stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

        Terry W. Himes

        JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

        Dawn Spacecraft Team

        Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

        Phone: (818) 393-6261

        Cell:    (818) 653-8213

        Fax:    (818) 393-3147

        [1][44]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

        From: DeTomaso <[2][45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
  on behalf

        of Jack Donahue <[3][46]demongusta at gmail.com>

        Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM

        To: "[4][47]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

        <[5][48]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Cc: "[6][49]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

        <[7][50]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

        Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List

        about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
  radiator,

        since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike
  Drew, I

        have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
  ain't

        broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
  but...Lol.

        There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
  mention it

        right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they
  will

        "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
  "tried-and-proven".

        Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
  they are

        suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"  -

        sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
  SPAL,

        and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the Flex-a-lite's

        since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
  a

        perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone

        offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
  for

        me.

        So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

        jack

        #4348

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  Message: 3

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700

  From: MyCars <[62]mycars at comcast.net>

  To: [63]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

  Message-ID: <[64]6fa00360-0d5e-3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net>

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  I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the

  rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

  I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
  give

  the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

  Thanks in advance for your thoughts

  Roy

  ------------------------------

  Message: 4

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)

  From: LSJ <[65]lashdeep at yahoo.com>

  To: MyCars
  <[66]mycars at comcast.net>,  "[67]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[68]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

  Message-ID: <[69]1287234121.1004140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  What size wheel up front?

  ?LSJ

  central wines-spirits?? est 1934

  625 e street nw

  washington, dc 20004

  centralwines.com

  facebook.com/CentralLiquors

  202-737-2800

          From: MyCars <[70]mycars at comcast.net>

      To: [71]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

      Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM

      Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

  I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the

  rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

  I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
  give

  the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

  Thanks in advance for your thoughts

  Roy

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        What size wheel up front?

        LSJ

        central

        wines-spirits  est 1934

        625 e street nw

        washington, dc 20004

        [1]centralwines.com

        [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors

        202-737-2800


  __________________________________________________________________

        From: MyCars <[74]mycars at comcast.net>

        To: [75]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

        I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
  for the

        rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

        I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
  would

        give

        the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

        Thanks in advance for your thoughts

        Roy

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        2. [79]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors

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  Message: 5

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700

  From: Jack Donahue <[82]demongusta at gmail.com>

  To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[83]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>

  Cc: "[84]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[85]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

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  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
  Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in front.
  Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of mine
  who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud - says
  it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get one
  for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -
  (PHPP).  Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
  ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be  more reliable - and more
  repairable (which I like).

  jack

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
  <[87]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

  Jack,

  Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new fans.  I'm
  not going to change it

  now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to deal with
  it.  So keep posting and

  I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)

  Terry

  "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

      stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

  Terry W. Himes

  JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

  Dawn Spacecraft Team

  Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

  Phone: (818) 393-6261

  Cell:    (818) 653-8213

  Fax:    (818) 393-3147

  [88]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <[89]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

  ??

  From: DeTomaso <[90]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  <[91]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
  Jack Donahue <[92]demongusta at gmail.com
  <[93]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>

  Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM

  To: "[94]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  <[95]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
  <[96]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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  Cc: "[98]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  <[99]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
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  <[101]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>

  Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
  about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
  since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I
  have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
  broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
  There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
  right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
  ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.

  Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
  suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
  sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
  and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
  since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
  perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
  offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
  me.

  So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

  jack

  #4348

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        Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently have a

        Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
  front.

        Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
  mine

        who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud -
  says

        it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get
  one

        for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -

        (PHPP).  Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was

        "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be  more reliable - and
  more

        repairable (which I like).

        jack

        On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)

        <[1][106]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

        Jack,

        Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new
  fans.  I'm

        not going to change it

        now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to deal
  with

        it.  So keep posting and

        I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)

        Terry

        "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

        stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

        Terry W. Himes

        JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

        Dawn Spacecraft Team

        Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

        Phone: (818) 393-6261

        Cell:    (818) 653-8213

        Fax:    (818) 393-3147

        [2][107]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

        From: DeTomaso <[3][108]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
  on behalf

        of Jack Donahue <[4][109]demongusta at gmail.com>

        Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM

        To: "[5][110]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

        <[6][111]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Cc: "[7][112]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

        <[8][113]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

        Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List

        about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
  radiator,

        since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike
  Drew, I

        have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
  ain't

        broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
  but...Lol.

        There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
  mention it

        right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they
  will

        "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
  "tried-and-proven".

        Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
  they are

        suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"  -

        sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
  SPAL,

        and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the Flex-a-lite's

        since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
  a

        perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone

        offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
  for

        me.

        So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

        jack

        #4348

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  Message: 6

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700

  From: Jack Donahue <[126]demongusta at gmail.com>

  To: [127]GR2835 at comcast.net

  Cc: "[128]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[129]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Message-ID: <[130]2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

  There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I wish
  I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
  thanks.

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM, [131]GR2835 at comcast.net wrote:

  Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under the
  fan controller button on their website.

  I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
  conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I made
  and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14 mile
  traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
  through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015 Woodward
  Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with the air
  set on the warmest setting.

  Good luck

  Gerry in Illinois

  ----- Original Message -----

  From: Jack Donahue <[132]demongusta at gmail.com>

  To: [133]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Cc: [134]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)

  Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
  about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
  since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I
  have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
  broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
  There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
  right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
  ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.

  Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
  suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
  sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
  and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
  since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
  perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
  offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
  me.

  So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

  jack

  #4348

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  Message: 7

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700

  From: Larry Stock <[137]larrys at panteraparts.com>

  To: Jack Donahue <[138]demongusta at gmail.com>

  Cc: "[139]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[140]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Message-ID: <[141]D4018324.17A0EF%larrys at panteraparts.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="ISO-8859-1"

  Hi Jack,

  You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we have our

  Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need shrouds
  for a

  full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend our
  half

  Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.

      11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00

  11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00

  11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00

  11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3 $125.00

  11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00

  If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard radiator

  tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan shroud
  under

  those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
  degree

  molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your Fluidyne.

  Larry Stock

  Pantera Parts Connection LC

  550 Mallory Way

  Carson City NV 89701

  www.PanteraParts.com<[142]http://www.panteraparts.com/>

  PH  775-283-4411

  Fax 775-283-4410

  Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627

  On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"

  <[143]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

  [144]demongusta at gmail.com> wrote:

  Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
  about  radiators

  - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I wanted

  brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I have to admit

  it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke, but I
  am

  fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really is an

  ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now; but I
  ran

  my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will ?build-to-suit? - but
  the

  Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.

  Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are

  suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -

  sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
  and

  Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s since
  they

  said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect match

  for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up  a part

  number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.

  So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

  jack

  #4348

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  Message: 8

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500

  From: Cullen McCann <[147]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>

  To: [148]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

  Message-ID:

          <[149]CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.
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  Good afternoon!

  Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that they
  say is

  Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've had a

  fantastic experience with them on another performance car application.

  [150]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22

  Thank you!!

  -------------- next part --------------

        Good afternoon!

        Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
  they

        say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience?
  I've

        had a fantastic experience with them on another performance car

        application.

        [1][151]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22

        Thank you!!

  References

        1. [152]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22

  ------------------------------

  Message: 9

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)

  From: Ken Green <[153]kenn_green at yahoo.com>

  To: Jack Donahue <[154]demongusta at gmail.com>,

          "[155]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[156]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Message-ID: <[157]1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  Jack,

  ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:

  [158]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/un
  iversal/primary-fans.html

          From: Jack Donahue <[159]demongusta at gmail.com>

      To: "[160]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[161]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Cc: "[162]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[163]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

      Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM

      Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

  Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
  wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
  admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
  but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
  really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
  now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
  ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.

  Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
  suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
  sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
  and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
  since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
  perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
  offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
  me.

  So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

  jack

  #4348

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        Jack,

            You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:


  [1][166]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans
  /univ

        ersal/primary-fans.html


  __________________________________________________________________

        From: Jack Donahue <[167]demongusta at gmail.com>

        To: "[168]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

        <[169]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Cc: "[170]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

        <[171]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud

        Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about

        radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
  since I

        wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I
  have to

        admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ainat
  broke,

        but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol. There

        really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to mention it
  right

        now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will

        abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
  atried-and-provena.

        Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans, but
  they are

        suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda  -

        sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
  SPAL,

        and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the Flex-a-liteas

        since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
  a

        perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone

        offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
  for

        me.

        So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:

        jack

        #4348

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        1.
  [174]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/un
  iversal/primary-fans.html

        2. [175]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com

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  Message: 10

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700

  From: Larry Finch <[177]fresnofinches at aol.com>

  To: Email List Address For Posting
  <[178]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: [DeTomaso]  McLeod hydraulic throw out

  Message-ID: <[179]6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com>

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  Cullen,

  2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
  2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
  recently did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
  spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.

  My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

  The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
  spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
  on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
  where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
  course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
  attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
  very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

  The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
  outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

  Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
  kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
  invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
  unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
  determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
  McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
  suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
  within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the
  first two generations.

  While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
  task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
  and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
  pull the transaxle and start all over again.

  The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
  been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
  Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
  experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
  road for themselves.

  Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
  details.

  Larry

  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

  ------------------------------

  Message: 11

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700

  From: MyCars <[180]mycars at comcast.net>

  To: LSJ <[181]lashdeep at yahoo.com>,
  "[182]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[183]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

  Message-ID: <[184]37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net>

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  Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego area.

  They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about 9.5"

  wide.

  On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:

  What size wheel up front?

  LSJ

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  *From:* MyCars <[187]mycars at comcast.net>

  *To:* [188]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM

  *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

  I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the

  rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

  I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
  give

  the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

  Thanks in advance for your thoughts

  Roy

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        Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
  area.

        They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
  9.5"

        wide.

        On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:

        What size wheel up front?

        LSJ

        central

        wines-spirits  est 1934

        625 e street nw

        washington, dc 20004

        [1]centralwines.com

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        From: MyCars [3]<[192]mycars at comcast.net>

        To: [4][193]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

        I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
  for the

        rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

        I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
  would

        give

        the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

        Thanks in advance for your thoughts

        Roy

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  Message: 12

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700

  From: MyCars <[202]mycars at comcast.net>

  To: [203]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

  Message-ID: <[204]013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net>

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  I just checked Weld's website

  [205]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prosta
  r.html

  They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are 9"
  wide

  On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:

        Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
  area.

        They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
  9.5"

        wide.

        On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:

        What size wheel up front?

        LSJ

        central

        wines-spirits  est 1934

        625 e street nw

        washington, dc 20004

        [1]centralwines.com

        [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors

        202-737-2800

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        From: MyCars [3]<[206]mycars at comcast.net>

        To: [4][207]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

        I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
  for the

        rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

        I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
  would

        give

        the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

        Thanks in advance for your thoughts

        Roy

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        I just checked Weld's website


  [1][218]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/pro
  star.

        html

        They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are
  9"

        wide

        On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:

        Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
  area.

        They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
  9.5"

        wide.

        On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:

        What size wheel up front?

        LSJ

        central

        wines-spirits  est 1934

        625 e street nw

        washington, dc 20004

        [1]centralwines.com

        [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors

        202-737-2800


  __________________________________________________________________

        From: MyCars [3][2]<[219]mycars at comcast.net>

        To: [[3]4][220]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM

        Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car

        I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
  for the

        rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.

        I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
  would

        give

        the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?

        Thanks in advance for your thoughts

        Roy

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  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400

  From: Will Kooiman <[244]will.kooiman at gmail.com>

  To: Larry Finch <[245]fresnofinches at aol.com>, Email List Address For

          Posting <[246]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

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  Wow.

  I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

  My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily

  available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building a
  new

  bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

  At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

  --

  Will

  On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

  <[248]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

  Cullen,

  2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in

  2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
  recently

  did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with

  and ordered directly from McLeod.

  My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

  The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout

  spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had

  on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting

  where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of

  course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line

  attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up

  very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

  The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking

  outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

  Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
  kit

  I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
  invoice.

  What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
  which

  uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
  that

  for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used

  exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
  a

  ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
  company.

  No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.

  While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
  task

  of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and

  unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
  the

  transaxle and start all over again.

  The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has

  been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.

  Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my

  experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that

  road for themselves.

  Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory

  details.

  Larry

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  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500

  From: Cullen McCann <[251]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>

  To: Will Kooiman <[252]will.kooiman at gmail.com>

  Cc: Email List Address For Posting
  <[253]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,

          Larry Finch <[254]fresnofinches at aol.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

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  Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like Will, I
  have

  one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been there for

  several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that was
  "new"

  but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire about

  fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a positive

  experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
  scattershield,

  bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years ago.

  Havent had a lick of trouble.  (knocking on wood now).

  the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the clutch

  fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and ive
  had a

  bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in the

  past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.

  however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set up
  my P

  car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not to
  use

  the factory unit.  Thank you sir.

  Cullen

  On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
  <[256]will.kooiman at gmail.com>

  wrote:

  Wow.

  I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

  My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily

  available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building a
  new

  bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

  At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

  --

  Will

  On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

  <[257]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

  Cullen,

  2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in

  2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
  recently

  did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with

  and ordered directly from McLeod.

  My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

  The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout

  spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had

  on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting

  where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of

  course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line

  attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up

  very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

  The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking

  outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

  Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
  kit

  I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
  invoice.

  What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
  which

  uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
  that

  for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used

  exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
  a

  ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
  company.

  No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.

  While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
  task

  of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and

  unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
  the

  transaxle and start all over again.

  The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has

  been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.

  Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my

  experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that

  road for themselves.

  Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory

  details.

  Larry

  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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        Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
  Will, I

        have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been
  there

        for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one
  that

        was "new" but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to

        inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to

        "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a performance

        clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the instructions
  and

        that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of
  trouble.A  (knocking

        on wood now).

        the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
  clutch

        fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and
  ive

        had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking
  in

        the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.

        however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set
  up

        my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose
  not

        to use the factory unit.A  Thank you sir.

        Cullen

        On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman

        <[1][262]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

          Wow.

          I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

          My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
  readily

          available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A  Rather than

          building a new

          bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

          At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

          --

          Will

          On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

        <[2][263]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

        >Cullen,

        >

        >2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
  it

        in

        >2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most

        recently

        >did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
  with

        >and ordered directly from McLeod.

        >

        >My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

        >

        >The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
  snout

        >spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
  still

        had

        >on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG

        fitting

        >where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
  unseen of

        >course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
  line

        >attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
  hold

        up

        >very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

        >

        >The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
  sticking

        >outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

        >

        >Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
  rebuild

        kit

        >I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous

        invoice.

        >What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
  unit

        which

        >uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
  determined

        that

        >for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
  used

        >exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
  such as

        a

        >A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the

        company.

        >No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two

        generations.

        >

        >While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
  the

        task

        >of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
  and

        >unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
  pull

        the

        >transaxle and start all over again.

        >

        >The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
  as

        has

        >been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
  fine.

        >Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
  on my

        >experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
  that

        >road for themselves.

        >

        >Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
  gory

        >details.

        >

        >Larry

        >

        >Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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  Message: 15

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:53:15 -0700

  From: Larry Stock <[274]larrys at panteraparts.com>

  To: Will Kooiman <[275]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Larry Finch

          <[276]fresnofinches at aol.com>, Email List Address For Posting

          <[277]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

  Message-ID: <[278]D401A883.17A144%larrys at panteraparts.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="EUC-KR"

  The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not

  ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
  using a

  Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
  DeTomaso

  Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
  vendors

  offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
  bell

  housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.

  Larry

  On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"

  <[279]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

  [280]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

  Wow.

  I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

  My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily

  available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building a
  new

  bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

  At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

  --

  Will

  On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

  <[281]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

  Cullen,

  2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in

  2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
  recently

  did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with

  and ordered directly from McLeod.

  My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

  The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout

  spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had

  on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting

  where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of

  course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line

  attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up

  very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

  The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking

  outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

  Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
  kit

  I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
  invoice.

  What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
  which

  uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
  that

  for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used

  exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
  a

  ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
  company.

  No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.

  While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
  task

  of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and

  unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
  the

  transaxle and start all over again.

  The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has

  been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.

  Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my

  experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that

  road for themselves.

  Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory

  details.

  Larry

  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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  Message: 16

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:11:22 -0700

  From: Mike Drew <[286]MikeLDrew at aol.com>

  To: David Nunn <[287]dnunn at telus.net>

  Cc: "<[288]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"

          <[289]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  Message-ID: <[290]C4C5C3CB-D201-4825-A845-85208C7B8B62 at aol.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  All,

  Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there
  is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
  kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

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  Mike

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[292]dnunn at telus.net> wrote:

      Rob,

      If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It

      eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
  adjustable.

      It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
  web

      site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

      Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
  belt

      tensioning a breeze.

      [1][293]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  References

      1. [294]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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  Message: 17

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:16:34 +0000

  From: Julian Kift <[297]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

  To: David Nunn <[298]dnunn at telus.net>, Mike Drew
  <[299]MikeLDrew at aol.com>,

          "[300]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[301]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  Message-ID:

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  Mike,

  It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the one
  that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but was
  adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on
  the rear.

  Julian

  ________________________________

  From: DeTomaso <[303]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
  behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
  <[304]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

  To: David Nunn

  Cc: <[305]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  All,

  Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note there
  is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
  kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

  [cid:[306]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
  m]

  Mike

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[307]dnunn at telus.net> wrote:

      Rob,

      If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It

      eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
  adjustable.

      It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
  web

      site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

      Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
  belt

      tensioning a breeze.

      [1][308]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  References

      1. [309]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  [[310]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.jpg]<http://w
  ww.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>

  Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
  ...<[311]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>

  www.ipsco.org<[312]http://www.ipsco.org/>

  Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler Pulley,
  this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench behind
  the bracket to tighten in ...

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        Mike,

        It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
  one

        that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
  but was

        adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
  on

        the rear.

        Julian


  __________________________________________________________________

        From: DeTomaso <[317]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
  behalf of

        Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[318]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

        To: David Nunn

        Cc: <[319]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

        All,

        Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
  there

        is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
  firewall

        kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.


  [cid:[320]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
  m]

        Mike

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[321]dnunn at telus.net>
  wrote:

        >  Rob,

        >

        >  If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
  kit. It

        >  eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it

        adjustable.

        >  It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
  IPSCO's

        web

        >  site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

        >

        >  Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
  and

        belt

        >  tensioning a breeze.

        >

        >
  [1][322]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        >

        > References

        >

        >  1.
  [1][323]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]

        [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...

        www.ipsco.org<[324]http://www.ipsco.org/>

        Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
  Pulley,

        this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
  behind

        the bracket to tighten in ...

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        1. [329]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        2. [330]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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  Message: 18

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:18:39 -0700

  From: Mike Drew <[335]MikeLDrew at aol.com>

  To: Julian Kift <[336]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

  Cc: David Nunn <[337]dnunn at telus.net>,
  "[338]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[339]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  Message-ID: <[340]7B7EDC5D-6016-45F7-B580-31A839921366 at aol.com>

  Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

  Julian,

  Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but
  only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
  idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.

  Mike

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift <[341]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  wrote:

      Mike,

      It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
  one

      that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
  was

      adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
  on

      the rear.

      Julian

        _________________________________________________________________
  _

      From: DeTomaso <[342]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
  behalf of

      Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[343]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

      Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

      To: David Nunn

      Cc: <[344]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

      All,

      Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
  there

      is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
  firewall

      kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

      [cid:[345]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outloo
  k.com]

      Mike

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[346]dnunn at telus.net>
  wrote:

      Rob,

      If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It

      eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it

      adjustable.

      It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's

      web

      site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

      Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and

      belt

      tensioning a breeze.

      [1][347]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  References

      1. [1][348]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

      [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]

      [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...

      www.ipsco.org<[349]http://www.ipsco.org/>

      Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
  Pulley,

      this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
  behind

      the bracket to tighten in ...

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      1. [354]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

      2. [355]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:19:14 -0700

  From: Larry Finch <[361]fresnofinches at aol.com>

  To: Email List Address For Posting
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  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

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  Heat?

  As I previously wrote, I have over 50,000 miles using one of the McLeod
  systems.

  Those 50,000 miles have all been WITH a black plastic plug in the hole
  that some wish to call a ventilation hole rather than an inspection
  hole. Your choice, I don't really care.

  Whatever heat issues may or may not be present, with or without a plug,
  have never appeared to be an issue in any way, shape or form in my many
  years of experience.

  I am all ears if Larry or anyone else has history that supports a
  failure of the McLeod unit from excessive heat.

  Larry

  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Larry Stock <[364]larrys at panteraparts.com>
  wrote:

  The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not

  ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
  using a

  Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
  DeTomaso

  Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
  vendors

  offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
  bell

  housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.

  Larry

  On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"

  <[365]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

  [366]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

  Wow.

  I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

  My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily

  available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building a
  new

  bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

  At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

  --

  Will

  On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

  <[367]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

  Cullen,

  2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in

  2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
  recently

  did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with

  and ordered directly from McLeod.

  My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

  The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout

  spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had

  on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting

  where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of

  course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line

  attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up

  very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

  The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking

  outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

  Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
  kit

  I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
  invoice.

  What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
  which

  uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
  that

  for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used

  exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
  a

  A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the company.

  No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.

  While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
  task

  of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and

  unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
  the

  transaxle and start all over again.

  The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has

  been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.

  Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my

  experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that

  road for themselves.

  Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory

  details.

  Larry

  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:38:06 -0500

  From: Cullen McCann <[372]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>

  To: Larry Stock <[373]larrys at panteraparts.com>

  Cc: Email List Address For Posting
  <[374]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,

          Larry Finch <[375]fresnofinches at aol.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

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  well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I forgot to

  mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.

  On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
  <[377]larrys at panteraparts.com>

  wrote:

  The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not

  ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
  using a

  Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
  DeTomaso

  Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
  vendors

  offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
  bell

  housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.

  Larry

  On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"

  <[378]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

  [379]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

  Wow.

  I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

  My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily

  available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building a
  new

  bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

  At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

  --

  Will

  On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

  <[380]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

  Cullen,

  2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in

  2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
  recently

  did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with

  and ordered directly from McLeod.

  My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

  The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout

  spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had

  on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting

  where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of

  course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line

  attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up

  very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

  The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking

  outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

  Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
  kit

  I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
  invoice.

  What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
  which

  uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
  that

  for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used

  exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
  a

  ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
  company.

  No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.

  While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
  task

  of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and

  unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
  the

  transaxle and start all over again.

  The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has

  been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.

  Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my

  experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that

  road for themselves.

  Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory

  details.

  Larry

  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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        well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
  forgot to

        mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.

        On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock

        <[1][387]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

          The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and
  not

          ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance
  is

          using a

          Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the

          DeTomaso

          Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
  some

          vendors

          offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top
  of

          the bell

          housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.

          Larry

          On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"

          <[2][388]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

          [3][389]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

          >Wow.

          >

          >I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.

          >

          >My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
  readily

          >available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A  Rather than

          building a new

          >bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.

          >

          >At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.

          >

          >--

          >Will

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

          ><[4][390]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

          >

          >>Cullen,

          >>

          >>2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
  purchased

          it in

          >>2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
  most

          recently

          >>did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
  spoke

          with

          >>and ordered directly from McLeod.

          >>

          >>My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"

          >>

          >>The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input

          snout

          >>spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I

          still had

          >>on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
  90ADEG

          fitting

          >>where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,

          unseen of

          >>course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the
  hard

          line

          >>attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
  don't

          hold up

          >>very long against grinding by a pressure plate.

          >>

          >>The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,

          sticking

          >>outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.

          >>

          >>Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same

          rebuild kit

          >>I had previously used, using the same number off of the
  previous

          invoice.

          >>What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
  unit

          which

          >>uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately

          determined that

          >>for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
  has

          used

          >>exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix

          such as a

          >>A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within
  the

          company.

          >>No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two

          generations.

          >>

          >>While you have some experience in using one of these
  previously,

          the task

          >>of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
  exacting

          and

          >>unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
  but

          pull the

          >>transaxle and start all over again.

          >>

          >>The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings
  and

          as has

          >>been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
  just

          fine.

          >>Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
  based

          on my

          >>experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture
  down

          that

          >>road for themselves.

          >>

          >>Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of
  the

          gory

          >>details.

          >>

          >>Larry

          >>

          >>Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.

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        3. [399]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com

        4. [400]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        5. [401]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        6. [402]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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  Message: 21

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:46:51 +0000

  From: michael frazier <[407]red3644 at hotmail.com>

  To: "[408]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"

          <[409]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions

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  Hi All,

  I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a barn since
  1961 and only has 25k miles,

  but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
  out.  Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will

  remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
  Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.

  I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an
  overdrive transmission.  Manual or

  automatic, either one.  It won?t be drag raced but will be used
  regularly and would likely be run in an

  open road race some time.  That?s the reason for the overdrive.

  I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
  what would work well.

  What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?

  Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  Michael

  Sent from Mail<[411]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
  Windows 10

  -------------- next part --------------

        Hi All,

        I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a barn
  since

        1961 and only has 25k miles,

        but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.

        Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will

        remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete

        Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.

        I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
  want an

        overdrive transmission.  Manual or

        automatic, either one.  It won't be drag raced but will be used

        regularly and would likely be run in an

        open road race some time.  That's the reason for the overdrive.

        I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
  wondering

        what would work well.

        What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?

        Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

        Michael

        Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10

  References

        1. [412]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986

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  Message: 22

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:04:46 -0700

  From: "David Nunn" <[413]dnunn at telus.net>

  To: "'Mike Drew'" <[414]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "'Julian Kift'"

          <[415]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

  Cc: [416]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  Message-ID: <[417]003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@telus.net>

  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Julian,

  Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine,
  with

  both IPSCO items installed.

  David

  -----Original Message-----

  From: Mike Drew [[418]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]

  Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM

  To: Julian Kift <[419]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

  Cc: David Nunn <[420]dnunn at telus.net>;
  [421]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  Julian,

  Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but
  only

  had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler
  that

  replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.

  Mike

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift <[422]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  wrote:

      Mike,

      It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
  one

      that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
  was

      adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
  on

      the rear.

      Julian

        _________________________________________________________________
  _

      From: DeTomaso <[423]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
  behalf of

      Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[424]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

      Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

      To: David Nunn

      Cc: <[425]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

      All,

      Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
  there

      is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
  firewall

      kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

      [cid:[426]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outloo
  k.com]

      Mike

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[427]dnunn at telus.net>
  wrote:

      Rob,

      If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It

  eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it

      adjustable.

      It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's

      web

      site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

      Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and

      belt

      tensioning a breeze.

      [1][428]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  References

      1. [1][429]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

      [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]

      [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...

      www.ipsco.org<[430]http://www.ipsco.org/>

      Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
  Pulley,

      this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
  behind

      the bracket to tighten in ...

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      2. [436]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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  Message: 23

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:53 -0600

  From: bill <[443]bill at incendium.com>

  To: michael frazier <[444]red3644 at hotmail.com>,

          "[445]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
  <[446]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions

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  Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.?

  CheersBill MooreCalgary

  -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier
  <[448]red3644 at hotmail.com> Date: 2016-09-16  3:46 PM  (GMT-07:00) To:
  [449]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need
  transmission suggestions

  Hi All,

  I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn since
  1961 and only has 25k miles,

  but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.?
  Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will

  remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
  Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.

  I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want an
  overdrive transmission.? Manual or

  automatic, either one.? It won?t be drag raced but will be used
  regularly and would likely be run in an

  open road race some time.? That?s the reason for the overdrive.

  I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
  what would work well.

  What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?

  Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  Michael

  Sent from Mail<[450]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
  Windows 10

  ?? Hi All,

  ?? I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn
  since

  ?? 1961 and only has 25k miles,

  ?? but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.

  ?? Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will

  ?? remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete

  ?? Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.

  ?? I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want
  an

  ?? overdrive transmission.? Manual or

  ?? automatic, either one.? It won't be drag raced but will be used

  ?? regularly and would likely be run in an

  ?? open road race some time.? That's the reason for the overdrive.

  ?? I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering

  ?? what would work well.

  ?? What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?

  ?? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

  ?? Michael

  ?? Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10

  References

  ?? 1. [451]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986

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        Michael:

        Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.

        Cheers

        Bill Moore

        Calgary

        -------- Original message --------

        From: michael frazier <[454]red3644 at hotmail.com>

        Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00)

        To: [455]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions

        Hi All,

        I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a barn
  since

        1961 and only has 25k miles,

        but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.

        Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will

        remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete

        Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.

        I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
  want an

        overdrive transmission.  Manual or

        automatic, either one.  It won't be drag raced but will be used

        regularly and would likely be run in an

        open road race some time.  That's the reason for the overdrive.

        I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
  wondering

        what would work well.

        What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?

        Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

        Michael

        Sent from
  Mail<[456]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

        Windows 10

          Hi All,

          I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a
  barn

        since

          1961 and only has 25k miles,

          but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.

          Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will

          remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
  complete

          Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.

          I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
  want

        an

          overdrive transmission.  Manual or

          automatic, either one.  It won't be drag raced but will be used

          regularly and would likely be run in an

          open road race some time.  That's the reason for the overdrive.

          I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
  wondering

          what would work well.

          What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?

          Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.

          Michael

          Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10

        References

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  Message: 24

  Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:31:46 -0600

  From: bill <[460]bill at incendium.com>

  To: David Nunn <[461]dnunn at telus.net>, 'Mike Drew'
  <[462]MikeLDrew at aol.com>,

          'Julian Kift' <[463]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

  Cc: [464]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

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  Wow !,,,,

  That looks to nice to cover up.....

  CheersBill MooreCalgary

  -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn
  <[466]dnunn at telus.net> Date: 2016-09-16  4:04 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: 'Mike
  Drew' <[467]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, 'Julian Kift'
  <[468]julian_kift at hotmail.com> Cc:
  [469]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden
  Compressors noises

  Julian,

  Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine,
  with

  both IPSCO items installed.

  David

  -----Original Message-----

  From: Mike Drew [[470]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]

  Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM

  To: Julian Kift <[471]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

  Cc: David Nunn <[472]dnunn at telus.net>;
  [473]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  Julian,

  Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications but
  only

  had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler
  that

  replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.

  Mike

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift <[474]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  wrote:

  ?? Mike,

  ?? It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
  one

  ?? that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
  was

  ?? adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on

  ?? the rear.

  ?? Julian

  ???? __________________________________________________________________

  ?? From: DeTomaso <[475]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
  behalf of

  ?? Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[476]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  ?? Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

  ?? To: David Nunn

  ?? Cc: <[477]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

  ?? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

  ?? All,

  ?? Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
  there

  ?? is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall

  ?? kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

  ??
  [cid:[478]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
  m]

  ?? Mike

  ?? Sent from my iPhone

  ?? On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[479]dnunn at telus.net>
  wrote:

  ? Rob,

  ? If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit. It?

  eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it

  ?? adjustable.

  ? It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's

  ?? web

  ? site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

  ? Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and

  ?? belt

  ? tensioning a breeze.

  ? [1][480]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  References

  ? 1. [1][481]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  ?? [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]

  ?? [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...

  ?? www.ipsco.org<[482]http://www.ipsco.org/>

  ?? Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
  Pulley,

  ?? this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
  behind

  ?? the bracket to tighten in ...

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  ?? 1. [487]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  ?? 2. [488]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

  ?? 3. [489]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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        Wow !,,,,

        That looks to nice to cover up.....

        Cheers

        Bill Moore

        Calgary

        -------- Original message --------

        From: David Nunn <[496]dnunn at telus.net>

        Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00)

        To: 'Mike Drew' <[497]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, 'Julian Kift'

        <[498]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

        Cc: [499]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

        Julian,

        Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
  engine,

        with

        both IPSCO items installed.

        David

        -----Original Message-----

        From: Mike Drew [[500]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]

        Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM

        To: Julian Kift <[501]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

        Cc: David Nunn <[502]dnunn at telus.net>;
  [503]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com

        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

        Julian,

        Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
  applications but

        only

        had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
  idler

        that

        replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.

        Mike

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
  <[504]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

        >  Mike,

        >

        >  It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
  the

        one

        >  that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
  location, but

        was

        >  adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
  wrench

        on

        >  the rear.

        >  Julian

        >

        __________________________________________________________________

        >

        >  From: DeTomaso <[505]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
  on behalf

        of

        >  Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[506]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        >  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

        >  To: David Nunn

        >  Cc: <[507]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

        >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

        >

        >  All,

        >  Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
  Note

        there

        >  is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat

        firewall

        >  kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

        >


  [cid:[508]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.co
  m]

        >  Mike

        >  Sent from my iPhone

        >  On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[509]dnunn at telus.net>
  wrote:

        >>  Rob,

        >>

        >>  If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
  kit.

        It

        >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it

        >  adjustable.

        >>  It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
  IPSCO's

        >  web

        >>  site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.

        >>

        >>  Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
  and

        >  belt

        >>  tensioning a breeze.

        >>


  >>  [1][510]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        >>

        >> References

        >>

        >>  1.
  [1][511]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        >  [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]

        >  [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
  ...

        >  www.ipsco.org<[512]http://www.ipsco.org/>

        >  Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler

        Pulley,

        >  this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench

        behind

        >  the bracket to tighten in ...

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        >  1.
  [517]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        >  2.
  [518]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

        >  3.
  [519]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm

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   I thought I have heard that Chevron DELO 400 is about the same Rotella?
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   From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
     Good Morning Everyone,
     I don't want to startup the oil discussion again.  But does anyone
   have
     thoughts on
     Rotella Type T 15w40.  Which is a heavy duty diesel oil.  It was
     suggested by a local
     Mustang shop.  I like to use the best oil.  No synthetics.
     My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades) has
     about 3,500 miles
     on it and running great.
     Thanks so much.
     Terry
     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
       stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     Terry W. Himes
     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     Dawn Spacecraft Team
     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     Phone: (818) 393-6261
     Cell:    (818) 653-8213
     Fax:    (818) 393-3147
     [1][1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
     From: DeTomaso <[2][2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf
     of Julian Kift <[3][3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
     To: Owen Cooke <[4][4]owen at tadhgcooke.com>,
     "[5][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     <[6][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
     It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling system,
     although I have to wonder which of the particular changes contributed
     most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a bulk
   of
     the problem.
     I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it overheated
     in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
     swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a setup.
     When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I found
   it
     was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland t-stat
   and
     voila heating issues resolved.
     It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying out
   big
     $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated
   about
     these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in the
   way
     of a good story"
     Julian
     ________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[7][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf
     of Owen Cooke <[8][8]owen at tadhgcooke.com>
     Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
     To: [9][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
     guys
     i had overheating problems
     i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the rad
     back to the swirl tank  and no fitting in halls rad for it apart from
   a
     top bleed screw
     so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the bleed
   pipe
     to it
     then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock
   brackets
     and wired them directly from the battery  to the relays
     i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
     i removed that and fitted a new stat
     now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c or
     195f  in all conditions
     my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but its
     steady and i know what to expect
     very happy with result
     owen cooke
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           1. Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
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           3. Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
           4. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (LSJ)
           5. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
           6. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
           7. Re: Fans and shroud (Larry Stock)
           8. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
           9. Re: Fans and shroud (Ken Green)
         10.  McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
         11. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
         12. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
         13. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Will Kooiman)
         14. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
         15. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Stock)
         16. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
         17. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Julian Kift)
         18. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
         19. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
         20. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
         21. NPC, Need transmission suggestions (michael frazier)
         22. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (David Nunn)
         23. Re: NPC, Need transmission suggestions (bill)
         24. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (bill)

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     Message: 1
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
     From: Jack Donahue <[16][16]demongusta at gmail.com>
     To: "[17][17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
             <[18][18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Cc: "[19][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
             <[20][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Message-ID: <[21][21]CF682A66-9CF9-422E-AD65-2D23A9ABE4BC at gmail.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
     Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
     about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
     since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew,
   I
     have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
   ain?t
     broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
     There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention
   it
     right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
     ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
     Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they
   are
     suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
     sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
     and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
     since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
     perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
     offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
     me.
     So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
     jack
     #4348
     ------------------------------
     Message: 2
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
     From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[22][22]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     To: Jack Donahue <[23][23]demongusta at gmail.com>,
             "[24][24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     <[25][25]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Message-ID: <[26]D4016E9F.92F3B%[26]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     Jack,
     Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new fans.
   I'm
     not going to change it
     now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to deal
   with
     it.  So keep posting and
     I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)
     Terry
     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
         stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     Terry W. Himes
     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     Dawn Spacecraft Team
     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     Phone: (818) 393-6261
     Cell:    (818) 653-8213
     Fax:    (818) 393-3147
     [27][27]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[28]mailto:[28]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     ??
     From: DeTomaso

   <[29][29]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<[30]mailto:detomaso-b
   ounc
     [30]es at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Jack Donahue
     <[31][31]demongusta at gmail.com<[32]mailto:[32]demongusta at gmail.com>>
     Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
     To:

   "[33][33]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[34]mailto:[34]detomaso at serve
   r.detoma
     solist.com>"

   <[35][35]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[36]mailto:[36]detomaso at serve
   r.detoma
     solist.com>>
     Cc:

   "[37][37]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[38]mailto:[38]detomaso at serve
   r.detoma
     solist.com>"

   <[39][39]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<[40]mailto:[40]detomaso at serve
   r.detoma
     solist.com>>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
     about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
     since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew,
   I
     have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
   ain?t
     broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
     There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention
   it
     right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
     ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
     Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they
   are
     suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
     sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
     and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
     since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
     perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
     offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
     me.
     So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
     jack
     #4348
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           Jack,
           Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new
     fans.  I'm
           not going to change it
           now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to
   deal
     with
           it.  So keep posting and
           I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)
           Terry
           "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
           stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
           Terry W. Himes
           JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
           Dawn Spacecraft Team
           Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
           Phone: (818) 393-6261
           Cell:    (818) 653-8213
           Fax:    (818) 393-3147
           [1][44][44]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
           From: DeTomaso
   <[2][45][45]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
     on behalf
           of Jack Donahue <[3][46][46]demongusta at gmail.com>
           Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
           To: "[4][47][47]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <[5][48][48]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           Cc: "[6][49][49]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <[7][50][50]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
           Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
           about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
     radiator,
           since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike
     Drew, I
           have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
   It
     ain't
           broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
     but...Lol.
           There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
     mention it
           right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they
     will
           "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
     "tried-and-proven".
           Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
     they are
           suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"  -
           sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
     SPAL,
           and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
   Flex-a-lite's
           since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
   is
     a
           perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
   someone
           offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
   normal
     for
           me.
           So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
           jack
           #4348
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     Message: 3
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
     From: MyCars <[62][62]mycars at comcast.net>
     To: [63][63]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
     Message-ID:
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     I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for
   the
     rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
     I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
     give
     the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
     Thanks in advance for your thoughts
     Roy
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     Message: 4
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
     From: LSJ <[65][65]lashdeep at yahoo.com>
     To: MyCars
     <[66][66]mycars at comcast.net>,
   "[67][67]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
             <[68][68]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
     Message-ID: <[69][69]1287234121.1004140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     What size wheel up front?
     ?LSJ
     central wines-spirits?? est 1934
     625 e street nw
     washington, dc 20004
     centralwines.com
     facebook.com/CentralLiquors
     202-737-2800
             From: MyCars <[70][70]mycars at comcast.net>
         To: [71][71]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
         Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
         Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
     I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for
   the
     rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
     I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
     give
     the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
     Thanks in advance for your thoughts
     Roy
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           What size wheel up front?
           LSJ
           central
           wines-spirits  est 1934
           625 e street nw
           washington, dc 20004
           [1]centralwines.com
           [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
           202-737-2800
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           From: MyCars <[74][74]mycars at comcast.net>
           To: [75][75]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
           I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
     for the
           rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
           I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
     would
           give
           the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
           Thanks in advance for your thoughts
           Roy
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     Message: 5
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
     From: Jack Donahue <[82][82]demongusta at gmail.com>
     To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[83][83]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     Cc: "[84][84]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
             <[85][85]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Message-ID: <[86][86]09791B61-DE0D-40CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
     Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
   front.
     Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of mine
     who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud - says
     it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get
   one
     for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -
     (PHPP).  Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
     ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be  more reliable - and
   more
     repairable (which I like).
     jack
     On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
     <[87][87]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
     Jack,
     Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new fans.
   I'm
     not going to change it
     now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to deal
   with
     it.  So keep posting and
     I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)
     Terry
     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
         stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     Terry W. Himes
     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     Dawn Spacecraft Team
     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     Phone: (818) 393-6261
     Cell:    (818) 653-8213
     Fax:    (818) 393-3147
     [88][88]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <[89]mailto:[89]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     ??
     From: DeTomaso <[90][90]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
     <[91]mailto:[91]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
   of
     Jack Donahue <[92][92]demongusta at gmail.com
     <[93]mailto:[93]demongusta at gmail.com>>
     Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
     To: "[94][94]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <[95]mailto:[95]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
     <[96][96]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <[97]mailto:[97]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
     Cc: "[98][98]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <[99]mailto:[99]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
     <[100][100]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <[101]mailto:[101]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
     about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
     since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew,
   I
     have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
   ain?t
     broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
     There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention
   it
     right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
     ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
     Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they
   are
     suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
     sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
     and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
     since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
     perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
     offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
     me.
     So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
     jack
     #4348
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           Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently have a
           Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser
   in
     front.
           Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
     mine
           who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud
   -
     says
           it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST
   get
     one
           for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds
   good -
           (PHPP).  Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
           "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be  more reliable -
   and
     more
           repairable (which I like).
           jack
           On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
           <[1][106][106]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
           Jack,
           Good stuff.  I too am running the original radiator with new
     fans.  I'm
           not going to change it
           now but I will follow your progress.  Someday I will have to
   deal
     with
           it.  So keep posting and
           I will keep saving the responses.  ;-)
           Terry
           "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
           stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
           Terry W. Himes
           JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
           Dawn Spacecraft Team
           Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
           Phone: (818) 393-6261
           Cell:    (818) 653-8213
           Fax:    (818) 393-3147
           [2][107][107]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
           From: DeTomaso
   <[3][108][108]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
     on behalf
           of Jack Donahue <[4][109][109]demongusta at gmail.com>
           Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
           To: "[5][110][110]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <[6][111][111]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           Cc: "[7][112][112]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <[8][113][113]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
           Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
           about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
     radiator,
           since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike
     Drew, I
           have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to.
   It
     ain't
           broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
     but...Lol.
           There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
     mention it
           right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they
     will
           "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
     "tried-and-proven".
           Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
     they are
           suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"  -
           sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
     SPAL,
           and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
   Flex-a-lite's
           since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
   is
     a
           perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
   someone
           offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
   normal
     for
           me.
           So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
           jack
           #4348
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     Message: 6
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
     From: Jack Donahue <[126][126]demongusta at gmail.com>
     To: [127][127]GR2835 at comcast.net
     Cc: "[128][128]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
             <[129][129]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Message-ID:
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     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
     There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I
   wish
     I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
     thanks.
     On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM, [131][131]GR2835 at comcast.net wrote:
     Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under the
     fan controller button on their website.
     I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
     conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I
   made
     and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14 mile
     traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
     through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015 Woodward
     Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with the
   air
     set on the warmest setting.
     Good luck
     Gerry in Illinois
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Jack Donahue <[132][132]demongusta at gmail.com>
     To: [133][133]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Cc: [134][134]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
     about  radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
     since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew,
   I
     have to admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
   ain?t
     broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
     There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention
   it
     right now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
     ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
     Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they
   are
     suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
     sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
     and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
     since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
     perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
     offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
     me.
     So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
     jack
     #4348
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     Message: 7
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
     From: Larry Stock <[137][137]larrys at panteraparts.com>
     To: Jack Donahue <[138][138]demongusta at gmail.com>
     Cc: "[139][139]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
             <[140][140]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Message-ID: <[141]D4018324.17A0EF%[141]larrys at panteraparts.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="ISO-8859-1"
     Hi Jack,
     You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we have
   our
     Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need shrouds
     for a
     full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend our
     half
     Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.
         11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
     11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
     11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
     11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3
   $125.00
     11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
     If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard
   radiator
     tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan shroud
     under
     those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
     degree
     molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your Fluidyne.
     Larry Stock
     Pantera Parts Connection LC
     550 Mallory Way
     Carson City NV 89701
     www.PanteraParts.com<[142] [webicon_green.png]
   [142]http://www.panteraparts.com/>
     PH  775-283-4411
     Fax 775-283-4410
     Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
     On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"
     <[143][143]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     [144][144]demongusta at gmail.com> wrote:
     Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
     about  radiators
     - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I wanted
     brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
   admit
     it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke, but
   I
     am
     fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really is
   an
     ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now; but I
     ran
     my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will ?build-to-suit? - but
     the
     Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
     Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they
   are
     suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?  -
     sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
     and
     Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s since
     they
     said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect
   match
     for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up  a
   part
     number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
     So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
     jack
     #4348
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     Message: 8
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
     From: Cullen McCann <[147][147]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
     To: [148][148]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
     Message-ID:

   <[149]CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+[149]qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.
     gmail.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     Good afternoon!
     Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that they
     say is
     Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've had a
     fantastic experience with them on another performance car
   application.
     [150] [webicon_green.png]
   [150]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
     Thank you!!
     -------------- next part --------------
           Good afternoon!
           Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
     they
           say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your
   experience?
     I've
           had a fantastic experience with them on another performance car
           application.
           [1][151] [webicon_green.png]
   [151]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
           Thank you!!
     References
           1. [152] [webicon_green.png]
   [152]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
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     Message: 9
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
     From: Ken Green <[153][153]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
     To: Jack Donahue <[154][154]demongusta at gmail.com>,
             "[155][155]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     <[156][156]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Message-ID:
   <[157][157]1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
     Jack,
     ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
     [158] [webicon_green.png]
   [158]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/un
     iversal/primary-fans.html
             From: Jack Donahue <[159][159]demongusta at gmail.com>
         To: "[160][160]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     <[161][161]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Cc: "[162][162]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     <[163][163]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
         Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
         Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
     Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
     radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since
   I
     wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I have
   to
     admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
   broke,
     but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
     really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
   right
     now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
     ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
     Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they
   are
     suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
     sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
     and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
     since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
     perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
     offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
     me.
     So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
     jack
     #4348
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           Jack,
               You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
     [1][166] [webicon_green.png]
   [166]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans
     /univ
           ersal/primary-fans.html
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           From: Jack Donahue <[167][167]demongusta at gmail.com>
           To: "[168][168]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <[169][169]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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           Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
           Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
           radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
     since I
           wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.  And, yes Mike Drew, I
     have to
           admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ainat
     broke,
           but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol.
   There
           really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to mention
   it
     right
           now; but I ran my idea past  Brassworks  - who says they will
           abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
     atried-and-provena.
           Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans, but
     they are
           suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda  -
           sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
     SPAL,
           and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the
   Flex-a-liteas
           since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
   is
     a
           perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
   someone
           offered-up  a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
   normal
     for
           me.
           So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
           jack
           #4348
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     Message: 10
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
     From: Larry Finch <[177][177]fresnofinches at aol.com>
     To: Email List Address For Posting
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     Subject: [DeTomaso]  McLeod hydraulic throw out
     Message-ID: <[179][179]6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com>
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     Cullen,
     2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
     2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
     recently did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
     spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
     My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
     The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
     spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
     on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
     where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
     course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
   line
     attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
     very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
     The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
     outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
     Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
     kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
     invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
   current
     unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
     determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
     McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added
   no
     suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a
   problem
     within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the
     first two generations.
     While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
     task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
   exacting
     and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
     pull the transaxle and start all over again.
     The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
     been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
     Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on
   my
     experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
   that
     road for themselves.
     Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
   gory
     details.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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     Message: 11
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
     From: MyCars <[180][180]mycars at comcast.net>
     To: LSJ <[181][181]lashdeep at yahoo.com>,
     "[182][182]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
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     Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego area.
     They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
   9.5"
     wide.
     On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
     What size wheel up front?
     LSJ
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     *To:* [188][188]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
     *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
     I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for
   the
     rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
     I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
     give
     the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
     Thanks in advance for your thoughts
     Roy
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           Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
     area.
           They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
   about
     9.5"
           wide.
           On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
           What size wheel up front?
           LSJ
           central
           wines-spirits  est 1934
           625 e street nw
           washington, dc 20004
           [1]centralwines.com
           [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
           202-737-2800
     __________________________________________________________________
           From: MyCars [3]<[192][192]mycars at comcast.net>
           To: [4][193][193]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
           I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
     for the
           rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
           I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
     would
           give
           the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
           Thanks in advance for your thoughts
           Roy
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     Message: 12
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
     From: MyCars <[202][202]mycars at comcast.net>
     To: [203][203]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
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     I just checked Weld's website
     [205] [webicon_green.png]
   [205]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prosta
     r.html
     They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are 9"
     wide
     On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
           Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
     area.
           They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
   about
     9.5"
           wide.
           On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
           What size wheel up front?
           LSJ
           central
           wines-spirits  est 1934
           625 e street nw
           washington, dc 20004
           [1]centralwines.com
           [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
           202-737-2800

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           From: MyCars [3]<[206][206]mycars at comcast.net>
           To: [4][207][207]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
           I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
     for the
           rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
           I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
     would
           give
           the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
           Thanks in advance for your thoughts
           Roy
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           I just checked Weld's website
     [1][218] [webicon_green.png]
   [218]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/pro
     star.
           html
           They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they
   are
     9"
           wide
           On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
           Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
     area.
           They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
   about
     9.5"
           wide.
           On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
           What size wheel up front?
           LSJ
           central
           wines-spirits  est 1934
           625 e street nw
           washington, dc 20004
           [1]centralwines.com
           [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
           202-737-2800
     __________________________________________________________________
           From: MyCars [3][2]<[219][219]mycars at comcast.net>
           To: [[3]4][220][220]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
           Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
           I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
     for the
           rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
           I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
     would
           give
           the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
           Thanks in advance for your thoughts
           Roy
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     Message: 13
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
     From: Will Kooiman <[244][244]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     To: Larry Finch <[245][245]fresnofinches at aol.com>, Email List Address
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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     Wow.
     I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
     My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
     available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building
   a
     new
     bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
     At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
     --
     Will
     On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
     <[248][248]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Cullen,
     2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
     2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
     recently
     did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
   with
     and ordered directly from McLeod.
     My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
     The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
     spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
     on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
     where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
     course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
   line
     attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
     very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
     The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
     outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
     Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
     kit
     I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
     invoice.
     What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
     which
     uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
     that
     for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
     exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such
   as
     a
     ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
     company.
     No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
   generations.
     While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
     task
     of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
     unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
     the
     transaxle and start all over again.
     The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
     been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
     Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on
   my
     experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
   that
     road for themselves.
     Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
   gory
     details.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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     Message: 14
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
     From: Cullen McCann <[251][251]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
     To: Will Kooiman <[252][252]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     Cc: Email List Address For Posting
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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     Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like Will,
   I
     have
     one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been there
   for
     several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that was
     "new"
     but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire
   about
     fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a
   positive
     experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
     scattershield,
     bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years ago.
     Havent had a lick of trouble.  (knocking on wood now).
     the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
   clutch
     fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and ive
     had a
     bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in the
     past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
     however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set up
     my P
     car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not to
     use
     the factory unit.  Thank you sir.
     Cullen
     On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
     <[256][256]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     wrote:
     Wow.
     I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
     My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
     available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building
   a
     new
     bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
     At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
     --
     Will
     On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
     <[257][257]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Cullen,
     2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
     2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
     recently
     did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
   with
     and ordered directly from McLeod.
     My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
     The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
     spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
     on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
     where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
     course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
   line
     attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
     very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
     The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
     outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
     Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
     kit
     I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
     invoice.
     What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
     which
     uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
     that
     for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
     exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such
   as
     a
     ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
     company.
     No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
   generations.
     While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
     task
     of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
     unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
     the
     transaxle and start all over again.
     The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
     been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
     Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on
   my
     experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
   that
     road for themselves.
     Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
   gory
     details.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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           Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
     Will, I
           have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its
   been
     there
           for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought
   one
     that
           was "new" but several generations old, and when I called McLeod
   to
           inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just
   to
           "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a
   performance
           clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the
   instructions
     and
           that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of
     trouble.A  (knocking
           on wood now).
           the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit
   the
     clutch
           fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail,
   and
     ive
           had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables
   breaking
     in
           the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
           however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I
   set
     up
           my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I
   choose
     not
           to use the factory unit.A  Thank you sir.
           Cullen
           On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
           <[1][262][262]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
             Wow.
             I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
             My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
     readily
             available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A  Rather than
             building a new
             bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
             At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
             --
             Will
             On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
           <[2][263][263]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
           >Cullen,
           >
           >2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
   purchased
     it
           in
           >2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
   most
           recently
           >did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
   spoke
     with
           >and ordered directly from McLeod.
           >
           >My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
           >
           >The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
     snout
           >spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
     still
           had
           >on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
   90ADEG
           fitting
           >where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
     unseen of
           >course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the
   hard
     line
           >attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
   don't
     hold
           up
           >very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
           >
           >The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
     sticking
           >outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
           >
           >Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
     rebuild
           kit
           >I had previously used, using the same number off of the
   previous
           invoice.
           >What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
     unit
           which
           >uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
     determined
           that
           >for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
   has
     used
           >exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
     such as
           a
           >A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within
   the
           company.
           >No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
           generations.
           >
           >While you have some experience in using one of these
   previously,
     the
           task
           >of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
   exacting
     and
           >unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
   but
     pull
           the
           >transaxle and start all over again.
           >
           >The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings
   and
     as
           has
           >been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
   just
     fine.
           >Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
   based
     on my
           >experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture
   down
     that
           >road for themselves.
           >
           >Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of
   the
     gory
           >details.
           >
           >Larry
           >
           >Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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     Message: 15
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:53:15 -0700
     From: Larry Stock <[274][274]larrys at panteraparts.com>
     To: Will Kooiman <[275][275]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Larry Finch
             <[276][276]fresnofinches at aol.com>, Email List Address For
   Posting
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
     Message-ID: <[278]D401A883.17A144%[278]larrys at panteraparts.com>
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     The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
     ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
     using a
     Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
     DeTomaso
     Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
     vendors
     offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
     bell
     housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
     Larry
     On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
     <[279][279]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     [280][280]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
     Wow.
     I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
     My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
     available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building
   a
     new
     bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
     At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
     --
     Will
     On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
     <[281][281]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Cullen,
     2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
     2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
     recently
     did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
   with
     and ordered directly from McLeod.
     My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
     The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
     spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
     on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
     where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
     course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
   line
     attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
     very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
     The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
     outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
     Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
     kit
     I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
     invoice.
     What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
     which
     uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
     that
     for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
     exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such
   as
     a
     ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
     company.
     No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
   generations.
     While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
     task
     of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
     unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
     the
     transaxle and start all over again.
     The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
     been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
     Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on
   my
     experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
   that
     road for themselves.
     Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
   gory
     details.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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     Message: 16
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:11:22 -0700
     From: Mike Drew <[286][286]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     To: David Nunn <[287][287]dnunn at telus.net>
     Cc: "<[288][288]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
             <[289][289]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
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     All,
     Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
   there
     is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
     kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
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     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[292][292]dnunn at telus.net>
   wrote:
         Rob,
         If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit.
   It
         eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
     adjustable.
         It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
   IPSCO's
     web
         site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
         Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
     belt
         tensioning a breeze.
         [1][293] [webicon_green.png]
   [293]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     References
         1. [294] [webicon_green.png]
   [294]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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     Message: 17
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:16:34 +0000
     From: Julian Kift <[297][297]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     To: David Nunn <[298][298]dnunn at telus.net>, Mike Drew
     <[299][299]MikeLDrew at aol.com>,
             "[300][300]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
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     Mike,
     It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
   one
     that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location, but
   was
     adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench on
     the rear.
     Julian
     ________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[303][303]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
   on
     behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
     <[304][304]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
     To: David Nunn
     Cc: <[305][305]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     All,
     Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
   there
     is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat firewall
     kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

   [cid:[306][306]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlo
   ok.co
     m]
     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn" <[307][307]dnunn at telus.net>
   wrote:
         Rob,
         If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit.
   It
         eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
     adjustable.
         It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
   IPSCO's
     web
         site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
         Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
     belt
         tensioning a breeze.
         [1][308] [webicon_green.png]
   [308]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     References
         1. [309] [webicon_green.png]
   [309]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     [[310] [webicon_green.png]
   [310]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.jpg]<http://w
     ww.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
     Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
     ...<[311] [webicon_green.png]
   [311]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm>
     www.ipsco.org<[312] [webicon_green.png] [312]http://www.ipsco.org/>
     Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler Pulley,
     this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench behind
     the bracket to tighten in ...
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           Mike,
           It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
   the
     one
           that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
     but was
           adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
   wrench
     on
           the rear.
           Julian
     __________________________________________________________________
           From: DeTomaso
   <[317][317]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of
           Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[318][318]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
           To: David Nunn
           Cc: <[319][319]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
           All,
           Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
   Note
     there
           is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
     firewall
           kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

   [cid:[320][320]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlo
   ok.co
     m]
           Mike
           Sent from my iPhone
           On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
   <[321][321]dnunn at telus.net>
     wrote:
           >  Rob,
           >
           >  If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
     kit. It
           >  eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
           adjustable.
           >  It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
     IPSCO's
           web
           >  site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
           >
           >  Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
     and
           belt
           >  tensioning a breeze.
           >
           >
     [1][322] [webicon_green.png]
   [322]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
           >
           > References
           >
           >  1.
     [1][323] [webicon_green.png]
   [323]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
           [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
           [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
           www.ipsco.org<[324] [webicon_green.png]
   [324]http://www.ipsco.org/>
           Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
     Pulley,
           this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
     behind
           the bracket to tighten in ...
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     Message: 18
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:18:39 -0700
     From: Mike Drew <[335][335]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     To: Julian Kift <[336][336]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Cc: David Nunn <[337][337]dnunn at telus.net>,
     "[338][338]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     Message-ID: <[340][340]7B7EDC5D-6016-45F7-B580-31A839921366 at aol.com>
     Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
     Julian,
     Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications
   but
     only had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
     idler that replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
   <[341][341]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
         Mike,
         It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
   the
     one
         that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
   but
     was
         adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
     on
         the rear.
         Julian

   _________________________________________________________________
     _
         From: DeTomaso
   <[342][342]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of
         Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[343][343]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
         Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
         To: David Nunn
         Cc: <[344][344]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
         Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
         All,
         Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
     there
         is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
     firewall
         kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

   [cid:[345][345]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlo
   o
     k.com]
         Mike
         Sent from my iPhone
         On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
   <[346][346]dnunn at telus.net>
     wrote:
         Rob,
         If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit.
   It
         eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
         adjustable.
         It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
   IPSCO's
         web
         site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
         Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
         belt
         tensioning a breeze.
         [1][347] [webicon_green.png]
   [347]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     References
         1. [1][348] [webicon_green.png]
   [348]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
         [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
         [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
         www.ipsco.org<[349] [webicon_green.png]
   [349]http://www.ipsco.org/>
         Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
     Pulley,
         this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
     behind
         the bracket to tighten in ...
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   [355]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
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     Message: 19
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:19:14 -0700
     From: Larry Finch <[361][361]fresnofinches at aol.com>
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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     Heat?
     As I previously wrote, I have over 50,000 miles using one of the
   McLeod
     systems.
     Those 50,000 miles have all been WITH a black plastic plug in the
   hole
     that some wish to call a ventilation hole rather than an inspection
     hole. Your choice, I don't really care.
     Whatever heat issues may or may not be present, with or without a
   plug,
     have never appeared to be an issue in any way, shape or form in my
   many
     years of experience.
     I am all ears if Larry or anyone else has history that supports a
     failure of the McLeod unit from excessive heat.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
     On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Larry Stock
   <[364][364]larrys at panteraparts.com>
     wrote:
     The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
     ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
     using a
     Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
     DeTomaso
     Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
     vendors
     offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
     bell
     housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
     Larry
     On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
     <[365][365]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     [366][366]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
     Wow.
     I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
     My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
     available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building
   a
     new
     bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
     At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
     --
     Will
     On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
     <[367][367]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Cullen,
     2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
     2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
     recently
     did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
   with
     and ordered directly from McLeod.
     My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
     The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
     spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
     on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
     where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
     course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
   line
     attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
     very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
     The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
     outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
     Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
     kit
     I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
     invoice.
     What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
     which
     uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
     that
     for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
     exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such
   as
     a
     A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
   company.
     No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
   generations.
     While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
     task
     of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
     unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
     the
     transaxle and start all over again.
     The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
     been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
     Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on
   my
     experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
   that
     road for themselves.
     Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
   gory
     details.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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     Message: 20
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:38:06 -0500
     From: Cullen McCann <[372][372]cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
     To: Larry Stock <[373][373]larrys at panteraparts.com>
     Cc: Email List Address For Posting
     <[374][374]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>,
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     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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     well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I forgot
   to
     mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
     On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
     <[377][377]larrys at panteraparts.com>
     wrote:
     The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined and not
     ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The Superformance is
     using a
     Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than the
     DeTomaso
     Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that some
     vendors
     offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand top of the
     bell
     housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
     Larry
     On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
     <[378][378]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     [379][379]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
     Wow.
     I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
     My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
     available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building
   a
     new
     bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
     At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
     --
     Will
     On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
     <[380][380]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Cullen,
     2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
     2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
     recently
     did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
   with
     and ordered directly from McLeod.
     My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
     The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
     spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
     on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
     where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
     course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
   line
     attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
     very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
     The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
     outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
     Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
     kit
     I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
     invoice.
     What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
     which
     uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
     that
     for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
     exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such
   as
     a
     ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
     company.
     No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
   generations.
     While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
     task
     of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
     unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
     the
     transaxle and start all over again.
     The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
     been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
     Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on
   my
     experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
   that
     road for themselves.
     Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
   gory
     details.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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           well, I have the quicktime bellhousing for the ZF on 4653. I
     forgot to
           mention that. Also didn't consider it would be relevant. hmmmm.
           On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Larry Stock
           <[1][387][387]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
             The basic problem is that the bell housing is too confined
   and
     not
             ventilated well enough to dissipate the heat. The
   Superformance
     is
             using a
             Quick Time bell housing that has much more ventilation than
   the
             DeTomaso
             Bell housing. Just another reason not to run those Plugs that
     some
             vendors
             offer, that close off the inspection hole at the left hand
   top
     of
             the bell
             housing. That is the only heat dissipation vent there is.
             Larry
             On 9/16/16, 1:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Will Kooiman"
             <[2][388][388]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on
   behalf of
             [3][389][389]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
             >Wow.
             >
             >I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
             >
             >My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
     readily
             >available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A  Rather than
             building a new
             >bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
             >
             >At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
             >
             >--
             >Will
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >
             >On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
             ><[4][390][390]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
             >
             >>Cullen,
             >>
             >>2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I
     purchased
             it in
             >>2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and
     most
             recently
             >>did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
     spoke
             with
             >>and ordered directly from McLeod.
             >>
             >>My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
             >>
             >>The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect
   input
             snout
             >>spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily
   I
             still had
             >>on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its
     90ADEG
             fitting
             >>where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted
   itself,
             unseen of
             >>course, within the bell housing when it was connected to
   the
     hard
             line
             >>attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines
     don't
             hold up
             >>very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
             >>
             >>The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
             sticking
             >>outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
             >>
             >>Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the
   same
             rebuild kit
             >>I had previously used, using the same number off of the
     previous
             invoice.
             >>What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
   current
     unit
             which
             >>uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
             determined that
             >>for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod
     has
             used
             >>exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
   suffix
             such as a
             >>A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem
   within
     the
             company.
             >>No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
             generations.
             >>
             >>While you have some experience in using one of these
     previously,
             the task
             >>of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
     exacting
             and
             >>unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to
   do
     but
             pull the
             >>transaxle and start all over again.
             >>
             >>The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory
   shortcomings
     and
             as has
             >>been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works
     just
             fine.
             >>Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and
     based
             on my
             >>experience I would not encourage any other owners to
   venture
     down
             that
             >>road for themselves.
             >>
             >>Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more
   of
     the
             gory
             >>details.
             >>
             >>Larry
             >>
             >>Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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     Message: 21
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:46:51 +0000
     From: michael frazier <[407][407]red3644 at hotmail.com>
     To: "[408][408]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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     Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
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     Hi All,
     I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a barn
   since
     1961 and only has 25k miles,
     but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
     out.  Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
     remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
     Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
     I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want
   an
     overdrive transmission.  Manual or
     automatic, either one.  It won?t be drag raced but will be used
     regularly and would likely be run in an
     open road race some time.  That?s the reason for the overdrive.
     I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
     what would work well.
     What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?
     Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
     Michael
     Sent from Mail<[411] [webicon_green.png]
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           Hi All,
           I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a
   barn
     since
           1961 and only has 25k miles,
           but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
           Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
           remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
   complete
           Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
           I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
     want an
           overdrive transmission.  Manual or
           automatic, either one.  It won't be drag raced but will be used
           regularly and would likely be run in an
           open road race some time.  That's the reason for the overdrive.
           I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
     wondering
           what would work well.
           What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?
           Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
           Michael
           Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
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     Message: 22
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:04:46 -0700
     From: "David Nunn" <[413][413]dnunn at telus.net>
     To: "'Mike Drew'" <[414][414]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "'Julian Kift'"
             <[415][415]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Cc: [416][416]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     Message-ID: <[417]003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@telus.net>
     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
     Julian,
     Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine,
     with
     both IPSCO items installed.
     David
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Mike Drew [[418]mailto:[417]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
     Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
     To: Julian Kift <[419][418]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Cc: David Nunn <[420][419]dnunn at telus.net>;
     [421][420]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     Julian,
     Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications
   but
     only
     had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler
     that
     replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
   <[422][421]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
         Mike,
         It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again,
   the
     one
         that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
   but
     was
         adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
     on
         the rear.
         Julian

   _________________________________________________________________
     _
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         Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
         To: David Nunn
         Cc: <[425][424]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
         Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
         All,
         Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
     there
         is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
     firewall
         kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.

   [cid:[426][425]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlo
   o
     k.com]
         Mike
         Sent from my iPhone
         On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
   <[427][426]dnunn at telus.net>
     wrote:
         Rob,
         If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit.
   It
     eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
         adjustable.
         It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
   IPSCO's
         web
         site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
         Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
         belt
         tensioning a breeze.
         [1][428] [webicon_green.png]
   [427]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     References
         1. [1][429] [webicon_green.png]
   [428]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
         [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
         [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
         www.ipsco.org<[430] [webicon_green.png]
   [429]http://www.ipsco.org/>
         Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
     Pulley,
         this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
     behind
         the bracket to tighten in ...
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     Message: 23
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:53 -0600
     From: bill <[443][442]bill at incendium.com>
     To: michael frazier <[444][443]red3644 at hotmail.com>,
             "[445][444]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
     <[446][445]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
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     Michael:Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.?
     CheersBill MooreCalgary
     -------- Original message --------From: michael frazier
     <[448][447]red3644 at hotmail.com> Date: 2016-09-16  3:46 PM
   (GMT-07:00) To:
     [449][448]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC,
   Need
     transmission suggestions
     Hi All,
     I?m putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn
   since
     1961 and only has 25k miles,
     but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.?
     Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
     remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
     Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
     I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and want
   an
     overdrive transmission.? Manual or
     automatic, either one.? It won?t be drag raced but will be used
     regularly and would likely be run in an
     open road race some time.? That?s the reason for the overdrive.
     I?ve been out of this part of the game for a while and was wondering
     what would work well.
     What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
     Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
     Michael
     Sent from Mail<[450] [webicon_green.png]
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     Windows 10
     ?? Hi All,
     ?? I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.? It sat in a barn
     since
     ?? 1961 and only has 25k miles,
     ?? but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
     ?? Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
     ?? remain.? The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a complete
     ?? Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
     ?? I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
   want
     an
     ?? overdrive transmission.? Manual or
     ?? automatic, either one.? It won't be drag raced but will be used
     ?? regularly and would likely be run in an
     ?? open road race some time.? That's the reason for the overdrive.
     ?? I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
   wondering
     ?? what would work well.
     ?? What would bolt up and work.? What would it come out of?
     ?? Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
     ?? Michael
     ?? Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
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           Michael:
           Screw that put a Ford flat head V8 in that suckered.
           Cheers
           Bill Moore
           Calgary
           -------- Original message --------
           From: michael frazier <[454][453]red3644 at hotmail.com>
           Date: 2016-09-16 3:46 PM (GMT-07:00)
           To: [455][454]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC, Need transmission suggestions
           Hi All,
           I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a
   barn
     since
           1961 and only has 25k miles,
           but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted out.
           Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
           remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
   complete
           Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
           I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351, and
     want an
           overdrive transmission.  Manual or
           automatic, either one.  It won't be drag raced but will be used
           regularly and would likely be run in an
           open road race some time.  That's the reason for the overdrive.
           I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
     wondering
           what would work well.
           What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?
           Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
           Michael
           Sent from
     Mail<[456] [webicon_green.png]
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           Windows 10
             Hi All,
             I'm putting a 1951 Ford truck back on the road.  It sat in a
     barn
           since
             1961 and only has 25k miles,
             but those were farm miles and it is beat though not rusted
   out.
             Beautiful Rat Rod patina that will
             remain.  The frame is boxed and cross braced, and holds a
     complete
             Jaguar XJ suspension front and back.
             I plan to run a spare Cleveland, actually a real Boss 351,
   and
     want
           an
             overdrive transmission.  Manual or
             automatic, either one.  It won't be drag raced but will be
   used
             regularly and would likely be run in an
             open road race some time.  That's the reason for the
   overdrive.
             I've been out of this part of the game for a while and was
     wondering
             what would work well.
             What would bolt up and work.  What would it come out of?
             Any info and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
             Michael
             Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
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     Message: 24
     Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:31:46 -0600
     From: bill <[460][459]bill at incendium.com>
     To: David Nunn <[461][460]dnunn at telus.net>, 'Mike Drew'
     <[462][461]MikeLDrew at aol.com>,
             'Julian Kift' <[463][462]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Cc: [464][463]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     Message-ID:
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     Wow !,,,,
     That looks to nice to cover up.....
     CheersBill MooreCalgary
     -------- Original message --------From: David Nunn
     <[466][465]dnunn at telus.net> Date: 2016-09-16  4:04 PM  (GMT-07:00)
   To: 'Mike
     Drew' <[467][466]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, 'Julian Kift'
     <[468][467]julian_kift at hotmail.com> Cc:
     [469][468]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
   Sanden
     Compressors noises
     Julian,
     Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my engine,
     with
     both IPSCO items installed.
     David
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Mike Drew [[470]mailto:[469]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
     Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
     To: Julian Kift <[471][470]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     Cc: David Nunn <[472][471]dnunn at telus.net>;
     [473][472]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     Julian,
     Yes, he mentioned two different products for different applications
   but
     only
     had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the idler
     that
     replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
     Mike
     Sent from my iPhone
     On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
   <[474][473]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
     ?? Mike,
     ?? It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler again, the
     one
     ?? that was previously linked appears to go in the stock location,
   but
     was
     ?? adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a wrench
   on
     ?? the rear.
     ?? Julian
     ????
   __________________________________________________________________
     ?? From: DeTomaso
   <[475][474]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of
     ?? Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[476][475]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     ?? Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
     ?? To: David Nunn
     ?? Cc: <[477][476]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     ?? Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     ?? All,
     ?? Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup. Note
     there
     ?? is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
   firewall
     ?? kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
     ??

   [cid:[478][477]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlo
   ok.co
     m]
     ?? Mike
     ?? Sent from my iPhone
     ?? On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
   <[479][478]dnunn at telus.net>
     wrote:
     ? Rob,
     ? If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's kit.
   It?
     eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
     ?? adjustable.
     ? It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on IPSCO's
     ?? web
     ? site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
     ? Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation and
     ?? belt
     ? tensioning a breeze.
     ? [1][480] [webicon_green.png]
   [479]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     References
     ? 1. [1][481] [webicon_green.png]
   [480]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     ?? [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
     ?? [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking ...
     ?? www.ipsco.org<[482] [webicon_green.png]
   [481]http://www.ipsco.org/>
     ?? Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory Idler
     Pulley,
     ?? this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a wrench
     behind
     ?? the bracket to tighten in ...
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     ?? 2. [488] [webicon_green.png]
   [487]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
     ?? 3. [489] [webicon_green.png]
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           Wow !,,,,
           That looks to nice to cover up.....
           Cheers
           Bill Moore
           Calgary
           -------- Original message --------
           From: David Nunn <[496][495]dnunn at telus.net>
           Date: 2016-09-16 4:04 PM (GMT-07:00)
           To: 'Mike Drew' <[497][496]MikeLDrew at aol.com>, 'Julian Kift'
           <[498][497]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
           Cc: [499][498]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
           Julian,
           Further to what Mike wrote; here's a photo of the front of my
     engine,
           with
           both IPSCO items installed.
           David
           -----Original Message-----
           From: Mike Drew [[500]mailto:[499]MikeLDrew at aol.com]
           Sent: September 16, 2016 2:19 PM
           To: Julian Kift <[501][500]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
           Cc: David Nunn <[502][501]dnunn at telus.net>;
     [503][502]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
           Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
           Julian,
           Yes, he mentioned two different products for different
     applications but
           only
           had a link for the stock replacement idler. My photo shows the
     idler
           that
           replaces the alternator to tension the water pump belt.
           Mike
           Sent from my iPhone
           On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:16, Julian Kift
     <[504][503]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
           >  Mike,
           >
           >  It gets even better, that looks to be a different idler
   again,
     the
           one
           >  that was previously linked appears to go in the stock
     location, but
           was
           >  adjustable from the front negating the usual need to get a
     wrench
           on
           >  the rear.
           >  Julian
           >

   __________________________________________________________________
           >
           >  From: DeTomaso
   <[505][504]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
     on behalf
           of
           >  Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[506][505]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           >  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM
           >  To: David Nunn
           >  Cc: <[507][506]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
           >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
           >
           >  All,
           >  Here is a photo of the IPSCO water pump idler pulley setup.
     Note
           there
           >  is no alternator in view, as this car is fitted with a flat
           firewall
           >  kit that moves the alternator outboard of the A/C system.
           >

   [cid:[508][507]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlo
   ok.co
     m]
           >  Mike
           >  Sent from my iPhone
           >  On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:41, "David Nunn"
   <[509][508]dnunn at telus.net>
     wrote:
           >>  Rob,
           >>
           >>  If I'm not mistaken, IPSCO sells a kit that modifies Kirk's
     kit.
           It
           >> eliminates the "fitted", non-adjustable belt and makes it
           >  adjustable.
           >>  It sure makes installation a lot easier. It's not listed on
     IPSCO's
           >  web
           >>  site so you have to call or e-mail to get details.
           >>
           >>  Also, IPSCO has an idler pulley kit that makes installation
     and
           >  belt
           >>  tensioning a breeze.
           >>
     >>  [1][510] [webicon_green.png]
   [509]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
           >>
           >> References
           >>
           >>  1.
     [1][511] [webicon_green.png]
   [510]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
           >  [2][Idler%20Pulley.jpg]
           >  [3]Idler Pulley - IPSCO, Pantera, Viper, Mechanical Parking
     ...
           >  www.ipsco.org<[512] [webicon_green.png]
   [511]http://www.ipsco.org/>
           >  Pantera Idler Pulley Assembly . Replacement for factory
   Idler
           Pulley,
           >  this assembly allow adjustment without trying to hold a
   wrench
           behind
           >  the bracket to tighten in ...
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   189. mailto:[717]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   190. mailto:[718]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   191. [webicon_gray.png]
   [719]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   192. mailto:[720]mycars at comcast.net
   193. mailto:[721]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   194. mailto:[722]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   195. [webicon_gray.png]
   [723]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   196. [webicon_gray.png] [724]http://centralwines.com/
   197. [webicon_green.png] [725]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   198. mailto:[726]mycars at comcast.net
   199. mailto:[727]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   200. mailto:[728]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   201. [webicon_gray.png]
   [729]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   202. mailto:[730]mycars at comcast.net
   203. mailto:[731]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   204. mailto:[732]013ad905-7f93-99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net
   205. [webicon_green.png]
   [733]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prosta
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   206. mailto:[734]mycars at comcast.net
   207. mailto:[735]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   208. mailto:[736]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   209. [webicon_gray.png]
   [737]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   210. [webicon_gray.png] [738]http://centralwines.com/
   211. [webicon_green.png] [739]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   212. mailto:[740]mycars at comcast.net
   213. mailto:[741]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   214. mailto:[742]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   215. [webicon_gray.png]
   [743]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   216. mailto:[744]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   217. [webicon_gray.png]
   [745]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   218. [webicon_green.png]
   [746]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prosta
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   219. mailto:[747]mycars at comcast.net
   220. mailto:[748]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   221. mailto:[749]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   222. [webicon_gray.png]
   [750]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   223. [webicon_gray.png] [751]http://centralwines.com/
   224. [webicon_green.png] [752]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   225. mailto:[753]mycars at comcast.net
   226. mailto:[754]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   227. mailto:[755]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   228. [webicon_gray.png]
   [756]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   229. mailto:[757]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   230. [webicon_gray.png]
   [758]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   231. [webicon_green.png]
   [759]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prosta
   r.html
   232. mailto:[760]mycars at comcast.net
   233. mailto:4][761]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   234. mailto:5][762]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   235. [webicon_gray.png]
   [763]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   236. [webicon_gray.png] [764]http://centralwines.com/
   237. [webicon_green.png] [765]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   238. mailto:[766]mycars at comcast.net
   239. mailto:[767]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   240. mailto:[768]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   241. [webicon_gray.png]
   [769]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   242. mailto:[770]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   243. [webicon_gray.png]
   [771]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   244. mailto:[772]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   245. mailto:[773]fresnofinches at aol.com
   246. mailto:[774]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   247. mailto:D401CD29.16A666%[775]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   248. mailto:[776]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   249. mailto:[777]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   250. [webicon_gray.png]
   [778]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   251. mailto:[779]cmccann1972 at gmail.com
   252. mailto:[780]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   253. mailto:[781]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   254. mailto:[782]fresnofinches at aol.com
   255.
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   256. mailto:[784]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   257. mailto:[785]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   258. mailto:[786]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   259. [webicon_gray.png]
   [787]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   260. mailto:[788]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   261. [webicon_gray.png]
   [789]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   262. mailto:[790]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   263. mailto:[791]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   264. mailto:[792]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   265. [webicon_gray.png]
   [793]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   266. mailto:[794]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   267. [webicon_gray.png]
   [795]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   268. mailto:[796]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   269. mailto:[797]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   270. mailto:[798]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   271. [webicon_gray.png]
   [799]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   272. mailto:[800]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   273. [webicon_gray.png]
   [801]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   274. mailto:[802]larrys at panteraparts.com
   275. mailto:[803]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   276. mailto:[804]fresnofinches at aol.com
   277. mailto:[805]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   278. mailto:D401A883.17A144%[806]larrys at panteraparts.com
   279. mailto:[807]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   280. mailto:[808]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   281. mailto:[809]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   282. mailto:[810]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   283. [webicon_gray.png]
   [811]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   284. mailto:[812]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   285. [webicon_gray.png]
   [813]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   286. mailto:[814]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   287. mailto:[815]dnunn at telus.net
   288. mailto:[816]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   289. mailto:[817]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   290. mailto:[818]C4C5C3CB-D201-4825-A845-85208C7B8B62 at aol.com
   291. [webicon_green.png]
   [819]http://server.detomasolist.com/pipermail/detomaso/attachments/2016
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   292. mailto:[820]dnunn at telus.net
   293. [webicon_green.png]
   [821]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   294. [webicon_green.png]
   [822]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   295. mailto:[823]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   296. [webicon_gray.png]
   [824]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   297. mailto:[825]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   298. mailto:[826]dnunn at telus.net
   299. mailto:[827]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   300. mailto:[828]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   301. mailto:[829]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   302.
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   303. mailto:[831]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   304. mailto:[832]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   305. mailto:[833]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   306.
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   307. mailto:[835]dnunn at telus.net
   308. [webicon_green.png]
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   312. [webicon_green.png] [841]http://www.ipsco.org/
   313. mailto:[842]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   314. [webicon_gray.png]
   [843]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   315. mailto:[844]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   316. [webicon_gray.png]
   [845]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   317. mailto:[846]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   318. mailto:[847]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   319. mailto:[848]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   320.
   mailto:[849]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.
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   321. mailto:[850]dnunn at telus.net
   322. [webicon_green.png]
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   323. [webicon_green.png]
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   324. [webicon_green.png] [853]http://www.ipsco.org/
   325. mailto:[854]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   326. [webicon_gray.png]
   [855]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   327. mailto:[856]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   328. [webicon_gray.png]
   [857]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   329. [webicon_green.png]
   [858]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   330. [webicon_green.png]
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   331. [webicon_green.png]
   [860]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   332. [webicon_gray.png]
   [861]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   333. [webicon_gray.png]
   [862]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   334. [webicon_green.png]
   [863]http://server.detomasolist.com/pipermail/detomaso/attachments/2016
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   335. mailto:[864]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   336. mailto:[865]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   337. mailto:[866]dnunn at telus.net
   338. mailto:[867]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   339. mailto:[868]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   340. mailto:[869]7B7EDC5D-6016-45F7-B580-31A839921366 at aol.com
   341. mailto:[870]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   342. mailto:[871]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   343. mailto:[872]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   344. mailto:[873]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   345.
   mailto:[874]da0fdac9-8741-4e03-b676-ebaa4760fb6f at namprd18.prod.outlook.
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   346. mailto:[875]dnunn at telus.net
   347. [webicon_green.png]
   [876]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   348. [webicon_green.png]
   [877]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   349. [webicon_green.png] [878]http://www.ipsco.org/
   350. mailto:[879]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   351. [webicon_gray.png]
   [880]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   352. mailto:[881]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   353. [webicon_gray.png]
   [882]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   354. [webicon_green.png]
   [883]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   355. [webicon_green.png]
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   356. [webicon_green.png]
   [885]http://www.ipsco.org/Pantera%20Parts/Idler%20Pulley.htm
   357. [webicon_gray.png]
   [886]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   358. [webicon_gray.png]
   [887]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   359. mailto:[888]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   360. [webicon_gray.png]
   [889]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   361. mailto:[890]fresnofinches at aol.com
   362. mailto:[891]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   363. mailto:[892]78A89D59-A850-402B-8862-ABC7DFF75CD9 at aol.com
   364. mailto:[893]larrys at panteraparts.com
   365. mailto:[894]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   366. mailto:[895]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   367. mailto:[896]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   368. mailto:[897]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   369. [webicon_gray.png]
   [898]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   370. mailto:[899]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   371. [webicon_gray.png]
   [900]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   372. mailto:[901]cmccann1972 at gmail.com
   373. mailto:[902]larrys at panteraparts.com
   374. mailto:[903]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   375. mailto:[904]fresnofinches at aol.com
   376.
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   377. mailto:[906]larrys at panteraparts.com
   378. mailto:[907]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   379. mailto:[908]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   380. mailto:[909]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   381. mailto:[910]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   382. [webicon_gray.png]
   [911]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   383. mailto:[912]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   384. [webicon_gray.png]
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   385. mailto:[914]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   386. [webicon_gray.png]
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   387. mailto:[916]larrys at panteraparts.com
   388. mailto:[917]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   389. mailto:[918]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   390. mailto:[919]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   391. mailto:[920]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   393. mailto:[922]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   394. [webicon_gray.png]
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   395. mailto:[924]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   396. [webicon_gray.png]
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   397. mailto:[926]larrys at panteraparts.com
   398. mailto:[927]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   399. mailto:[928]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   400. mailto:[929]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   401. mailto:[930]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   403. mailto:[932]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   [933]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   405. mailto:[934]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   407. mailto:[936]red3644 at hotmail.com
   408. mailto:[937]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   409. mailto:[938]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   410.
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   411. [webicon_green.png]
   [940]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
   412. [webicon_green.png]
   [941]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
   413. mailto:[942]dnunn at telus.net
   414. mailto:[943]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   415. mailto:[944]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   416. mailto:[945]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   417. mailto:003301d21066$5739cc80$05ad6580$@telus.net
   418. mailto:[946]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   419. mailto:[947]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   420. mailto:[948]dnunn at telus.net
   421. mailto:[949]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   422. mailto:[950]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   423. mailto:[951]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   424. mailto:[952]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   425. mailto:[953]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   426.
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   427. mailto:[955]dnunn at telus.net
   428. [webicon_green.png]
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   430. [webicon_green.png] [958]http://www.ipsco.org/
   431. mailto:[959]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   432. [webicon_gray.png]
   [960]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   433. mailto:[961]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   434. [webicon_gray.png]
   [962]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   435. [webicon_green.png]
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   437. [webicon_green.png]
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   438. [webicon_gray.png]
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   439. [webicon_gray.png]
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   440. mailto:[968]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   441. [webicon_gray.png]
   [969]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   442. [webicon_green.png]
   [970]http://server.detomasolist.com/pipermail/detomaso/attachments/2016
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   443. mailto:[971]bill at incendium.com
   444. mailto:[972]red3644 at hotmail.com
   445. mailto:[973]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   446. mailto:[974]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   447.
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   448. mailto:[976]red3644 at hotmail.com
   449. mailto:[977]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   450. [webicon_green.png]
   [978]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
   451. [webicon_green.png]
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   452. mailto:[980]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   453. [webicon_gray.png]
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   454. mailto:[982]red3644 at hotmail.com
   455. mailto:[983]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   456. [webicon_green.png]
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   457. [webicon_green.png]
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   458. mailto:[986]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   459. [webicon_gray.png]
   [987]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   460. mailto:[988]bill at incendium.com
   461. mailto:[989]dnunn at telus.net
   462. mailto:[990]MikeLDrew at aol.com
   463. mailto:[991]julian_kift at hotmail.com
   464. mailto:[992]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   465.
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