[DeTomaso] Water in glove box

Sun Sep 18 13:08:45 EDT 2016

Let me guess, Cleveland (Saxophone blower) Larry:   one night, while blowing your sax at a gig, you were thinking about your Pantera's water leaks, and voila, the lightbulb lit up!    I will blow air INTO my car window and see where the leaks show up.  That was the longest show that you have ever had to sit through!    ----Bill (dude, my Pantera leaks into the glovebox, also) Lewis

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:34 PM
To: 'Robert Stroj'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

Robert,

I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my
big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter plate, with
hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5
or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal
it.

The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I
use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.

When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now
pressurizing the cabin of the car.

Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a
leak.  You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.

Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Stroj
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

Hi,

Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak
trough the went tube.

My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the
AC control button.

I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would
estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get through
window gasket.I hope!

Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing that
window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is
OK.

Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if
I can find what's going on there.

I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and then
all water just leaks trough vent opening.

Thanks again for all the responses, Robert

From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg at yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM
To: jgkrenton at comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was
installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub".  In addition there is a
water drain in the cowl vent "tub".  In the event of a crack or corrosion in
the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.

HTH

  _____

From: "jgkrenton at comcast.net" <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
To: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

  Dolomites are beautiful.
  On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up
  the glove box.
  It rains in Seattle.
  FYI.
  Jeff
    __________________________________________________________________

  From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs at maui.net>
  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM
  Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

  Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right
  carpet
  getting wet in the foot area.
  Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was
  totally
  filled with water!
  Driver side seems to stay dry.
  This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy
  spraying
  around the door frames etc...
  I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the
  hood?
  It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed
  dry.
  Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water
  inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...?
  Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how
  to
  fix?
  Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens.
  Would
  that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong?
  Thanks, Robert
  PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to pull
  out
  front fender lip a bit :)
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   Let me guess, Cleveland (Saxophone blower) Larry:   one night, while
   blowing your sax at a gig, you were thinking about your Pantera's water
   leaks, and voila, the lightbulb lit up!    I will blow air INTO my car
   window and see where the leaks show up.  That was the longest show that
   you have ever had to sit through!    ----Bill (dude, my Pantera leaks
   into the glovebox, also) Lewis
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
   Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:34 PM
   To: 'Robert Stroj'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

   Robert,
   I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On
   my
   big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter plate,
   with
   hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window
   down 5
   or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to
   seal
   it.
   The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in
   it. I
   use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
   When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now
   pressurizing the cabin of the car.
   Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you
   have a
   leak.  You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
   Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Robert Stroj
   Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
   Hi,

   Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a
   leak
   trough the went tube.
   My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below
   the
   AC control button.

   I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would
   estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
   through
   window gasket.I hope!
   Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing
   that
   window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope
   that is
   OK.
   Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and
   check if
   I can find what's going on there.
   I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and
   then
   all water just leaks trough vent opening.

   Thanks again for all the responses, Robert

   From: The Goyaniuks [[2]mailto:andriykoisg at yahoo.ca]
   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM
   To: jgkrenton at comcast.net; Robert Stroj;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box

   In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that
   was
   installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub".  In addition there is
   a
   water drain in the cowl vent "tub".  In the event of a crack or
   corrosion in
   the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the
   leak.

   HTH

     _____
   From: "jgkrenton at comcast.net" <jgkrenton at comcast.net>
   To: Robert Stroj <npdrs at maui.net>
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     Dolomites are beautiful.
     On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up
     the glove box.
     It rains in Seattle.
     FYI.
     Jeff
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs at maui.net>
     To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
     Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right
     carpet
     getting wet in the foot area.
     Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was
     totally
     filled with water!
     Driver side seems to stay dry.
     This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy
     spraying
     around the door frames etc...
     I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind
   the
     hood?
     It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed
     dry.
     Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water
     inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...?
     Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to
   look/how
     to
     fix?
     Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens.
     Would
     that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired
   wrong?
     Thanks, Robert
     PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to
   pull
     out
     front fender lip a bit :)
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