[DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
bill
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Sat Sep 17 19:01:34 EDT 2016
I use Driven Racing Oil, Hot Rod, synthetic 15W-50
CheersBill MooreCalgary
-------- Original message --------From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk> Date: 2016-09-17 2:11 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
Thanks for that, I had no idea there were so many formulas
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On 17 Sep 2016, at 21:02, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
The Mobil 1 Racing has the highest ZDDP at 1750 as it does not have to comply with the mandated specs for street use.
The other weights of Mobil 1 have varying amounts of ZDDP, it looks like the 0-40W FS has 1,000 ppm which I think is the upper limit allowable for the SF rating compliance. Here's the 2016 specs of the various Mobil 1 offerings;
https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-product-specs-guide-2016.pdf
With your new rebuild you'll ideally want to use a good break in oil initially to get the rings seated etc.
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Dave Londry
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
So , is synthetic compatible with our Cleveland engines, say 0-40 ? My engine is currently being upgraded and I am hoping to use Mobil One
Sent from Michael's iPhone
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 19:12, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>> wrote:
>
> Ever since the specs on Mobil 1 went to hell I've been using Rotella T6.
> It's got a great set of specs and they've been keeping them stable.
>
> And just to keep the discussion lively -
>
> ***A synthetic is superior in every aspect of lubrication.***
> Dave
>
>
>> On 2016-09-17 10:47 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
>> Traditionally diesel oils have high levels of detergents to deal with
>> the high sulfur, acidic conditions and higher heat etc. however with
>> the advent of low sulfur diesels they have come closer to gasoline
>> formulations. In fact there are a number of "Full fleet' oils designed
>> for use in both gasoline and diesel engines now. What diesel oils do
>> have is a high level of ZDDP required for older flat tappet
>> cams (Rotella T is 1200 ppm ZDDP) and Rotella T is actually recommended
>> by the Porsche Club of America.
>>
>> I do think there's a bit of a contradiction in terms between "Rotella
>> Type T 15W40" "I like to use the best oil" and "No synthetics"; no
>> doubt synthetics are more robust than dinosaur oil and the Rotella T
>> oils are now split into varying T grades T1 straight grade, T4 triple
>> protection , T5 synthetic and T6 a synthetic extreme temperature. All
>> have 1200 ppm of ZDDP as far as I can ascertain so the T6 would be the
>> best, although I'm sure the lesser will do the job.
>>
>> Yes it's confusing, but not rocket science....
>>
>> Personally I use Amsoil Z-Rod in my classic cars and have one of their
>> preferred customer accounts for discount as I also buy pure racing oils
>> and marine products.
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
>>
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>> I don't want to startup the oil discussion again. But does anyone have
>> thoughts on
>> Rotella Type T 15w40. Which is a heavy duty diesel oil. It was
>> suggested by a local
>> Mustang shop. I like to use the best oil. No synthetics.
>> My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades) has
>> about 3,500 miles
>> on it and running great.
>> Thanks so much.
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
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>> From: DeTomaso
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>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of Julian Kift
>> <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
>> To: Owen Cooke <owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
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>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling system,
>> although I have to wonder which of the particular changes contributed
>> most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a bulk of
>> the problem.
>> I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it overheated
>> in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
>> swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a setup.
>> When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I found it
>> was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland t-stat and
>> voila heating issues resolved.
>> It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying out big
>> $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated about
>> these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in the way
>> of a good story"
>> Julian
>> ________________________________
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>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
>> To:
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>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> guys
>> i had overheating problems
>> i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the rad
>> back to the swirl tank and no fitting in halls rad for it apart from a
>> top bleed screw
>> so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the bleed pipe
>> to it
>> then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock brackets
>> and wired them directly from the battery to the relays
>> i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
>> i removed that and fitted a new stat
>> now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c or
>> 195f in all conditions
>> my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but its
>> steady and i know what to expect
>> very happy with result
>> owen cooke
>> On 16/09/2016 23:31,
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
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>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
>> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
>>
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
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>> sa.gov<http://sa.gov>>>
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>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[4]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.na
>> sa.gov<http://sa.gov>>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
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>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>><mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> on behalf of Jack Donahue
>> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
>> ail.com<http://ail.com>>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
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>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
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>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
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>> rver.detomasolist.com<http://rver.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>> <[3]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
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>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
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>> Cc:
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved" -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
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>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com><mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>
>> To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
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>> What size wheel up front?
>> ?LSJ
>> central wines-spirits?? est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
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>> m>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> 2. [17]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>> <09791B61-DE0D-40CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com<mailto:09791B61-DE0D-40CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com><mailto:09791B61-DE0D-40
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>> Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud - says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get one
>> for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
>> ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable - and more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[20]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> <[21]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>
>> <[22]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>
>> <[23]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[24]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[25]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[26]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[27]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
>> front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
>> mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud -
>> says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST get
>> one
>> for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good -
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
>> "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable - and
>> more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>> <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>> <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
>> rver.detomasolist.com<http://rver.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>> <[4]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>> "[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>> <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Cc:
>> "[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>> <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans, but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved" -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> 1. [31]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> 2. [32]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> 3. [33]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> 4. [34]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com
>> 5. [35]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 6. [36]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 7. [37]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 8. [38]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 9. [39]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 10. [40]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To: GR2835 at comcast.net<mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net><[41]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>> <2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com><mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D
>> 16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I wish
>> I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
>> thanks.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM,
>> GR2835 at comcast.net<mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net><[42]mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under the
>> fan controller button on their website.
>> I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
>> conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I made
>> and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14 mile
>> traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
>> through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015 Woodward
>> Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with the air
>> set on the warmest setting.
>> Good luck
>> Gerry in Illinois
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Cc:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
>> From: Larry Stock
>> <larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>> <D4018324.17A0EF%larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:D4018324.17A0EF%larrys@
>> panteraparts.com<http://panteraparts.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Hi Jack,
>> You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we have our
>> Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need shrouds
>> for a
>> full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend our
>> half
>> Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.
>> 11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
>> 11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
>> 11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
>> 11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3 $125.00
>> 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
>> If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard radiator
>> tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan shroud
>> under
>> those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
>> degree
>> molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your Fluidyne.
>> Larry Stock
>> Pantera Parts Connection LC
>> 550 Mallory Way
>> Carson City NV 89701
>> [44]www.PanteraParts.com<http://www.panteraparts.com><http://www.PanteraParts.com<http://www.panteraparts.com>>
>> PH 775-283-4411
>> Fax 775-283-4410
>> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
>> On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators
>> - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I wanted
>> brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to admit
>> it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke, but I
>> am
>> fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really is an
>> ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now; but I
>> ran
>> my idea past Brassworks - who says they will ?build-to-suit? - but
>> the
>> Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and
>> Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s since
>> they
>> said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect match
>> for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a part
>> number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com><mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To:
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
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>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that they
>> say is
>> Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've had a
>> fantastic experience with them on another performance car application.
>> [46]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
>> they
>> say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience?
>> I've
>> had a fantastic experience with them on another performance car
>> application.
>> [1]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> References
>> 1. [47]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com><mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>,
>>
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>> <1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com><mailto:1796334072.2409
>> 059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Jack,
>> ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>> [48]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
>> From: Jack Donahue
>> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right
>> now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Jack,
>> You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>>
>> [1]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/univ
>> ersal/primary-fans.html
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: Jack Donahue
>> <demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> To:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
>> since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
>> have to
>> admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ainat
>> broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol. There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to mention it
>> right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> atried-and-provena.
>> Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans, but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the Flex-a-liteas
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> [50]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
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>> 3. [52]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
>> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> To: Email List Address For Posting
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>> <6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com<mailto:6C366701-6502-47C0-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com><mailto:6C366701-6502-47C0
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>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I
>> spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing
>> McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no
>> suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem
>> within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the
>> first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
>> and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
>> pull the transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To: LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com><mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com>>,
>> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>> <37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<mailto:37e8f14d-dde9-3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net><mailto:37e8f14d-dde9-
>> 3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net<mailto:3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> /*central */
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>> */
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>> -
>> *From:* MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> *To:*
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars [3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
>> From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
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>> 99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net<mailto:99e8-761f-878f602ee6cb at comcast.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>> I just checked Weld's website
>> [63]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar
>> .html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are 9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars [3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> I just checked Weld's website
>>
>> [1]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar.
>> html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are
>> 9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars [3][2]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.net>>
>> To:
>> [[3]4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasol
>> ist.com<http://ist.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
>> From: Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>,
>> Email List Address For
>> Posting
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>> <D401CD29.16A666%will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:D401CD29.16A666%will.koo
>> iman at gmail.com<mailto:iman at gmail.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>> <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com><mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com>>
>> To: Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>,
>> Larry Finch
>> <fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <CAFwr-MXS50CCAQsJNmavjATb-j1RSZxcQrYF3EOYwY-xD=9Jpg at mail.gmail.com<mailto:CAFwr-MXS50CCAQsJNmavjATb-j1RSZxcQrYF3EOYwY-xD=9Jpg at mail.gmail.com><mai
>> lto:CAFwr-MXS50CCAQsJNmavjATb-j1RSZxcQrYF3EOYwY-xD=9Jpg at mail.gmail.com<mailto:MXS50CCAQsJNmavjATb-j1RSZxcQrYF3EOYwY-xD=9Jpg at mail.gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like Will, I
>> have
>> one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been there for
>> several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that was
>> "new"
>> but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire about
>> fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a positive
>> experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
>> scattershield,
>> bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years ago.
>> Havent had a lick of trouble. (knocking on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and ive
>> had a
>> bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in the
>> past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set up
>> my P
>> car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not to
>> use
>> the factory unit. Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>> <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90? fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
>> Will, I
>> have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been
>> there
>> for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one
>> that
>> was "new" but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to
>> inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to
>> "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a performance
>> clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the instructions
>> and
>> that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of trouble.A
>> (knocking
>> on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
>> clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and
>> ive
>> had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking
>> in
>> the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set
>> up
>> my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose
>> not
>> to use the factory unit.A Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>> <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
>> readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather than
>> building a new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
>> <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>> wrote:
>>> Cullen,
>>>
>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
>> it
>> in
>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
>> with
>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>>
>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>>
>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
>> snout
>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
>> still
>> had
>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
>> fitting
>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
>> unseen of
>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
>> line
>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
>> hold
>> up
>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>>
>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
>> sticking
>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>>
>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
>> rebuild
>> kit
>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit
>> which
>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined
>> that
>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
>> used
>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
>> such as
>> a
>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
>> generations.
>>>
>>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
>> the
>> task
>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
>> and
>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
>> pull
>> the
>>> transaxle and start all over again.
>>>
>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
>> as
>> has
>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
>> fine.
>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
>> on my
>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
>> that
>>> road for themselves.
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
>> gory
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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I use Driven Racing Oil, Hot Rod, synthetic 15W-50
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
Date: 2016-09-17 2:11 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
Thanks for that, I had no idea there were so many formulas
Sent from Michael's iPhone
On 17 Sep 2016, at 21:02, Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
The Mobil 1 Racing has the highest ZDDP at 1750 as it does not have to
comply with the mandated specs for street use.
The other weights of Mobil 1 have varying amounts of ZDDP, it looks
like the 0-40W FS has 1,000 ppm which I think is the upper limit
allowable for the SF rating compliance. Here's the 2016 specs of the
various Mobil 1 offerings;
https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-product
-specs-guide-2016.pdf
With your new rebuild you'll ideally want to use a good break in oil
initially to get the rings seated etc.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Michael Barnes
<michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.
uk>>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Dave Londry
Cc:
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
So , is synthetic compatible with our Cleveland engines, say 0-40 ? My
engine is currently being upgraded and I am hoping to use Mobil One
Sent from Michael's iPhone
> On 17 Sep 2016, at 19:12, Dave Londry
<davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>> wrote:
>
> Ever since the specs on Mobil 1 went to hell I've been using Rotella
T6.
> It's got a great set of specs and they've been keeping them stable.
>
> And just to keep the discussion lively -
>
> ***A synthetic is superior in every aspect of lubrication.***
> Dave
>
>
>> On 2016-09-17 10:47 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
>> Traditionally diesel oils have high levels of detergents to deal
with
>> the high sulfur, acidic conditions and higher heat etc. however
with
>> the advent of low sulfur diesels they have come closer to
gasoline
>> formulations. In fact there are a number of "Full fleet' oils
designed
>> for use in both gasoline and diesel engines now. What diesel oils
do
>> have is a high level of ZDDP required for older flat tappet
>> cams (Rotella T is 1200 ppm ZDDP) and Rotella T is actually
recommended
>> by the Porsche Club of America.
>>
>> I do think there's a bit of a contradiction in terms between
"Rotella
>> Type T 15W40" "I like to use the best oil" and "No synthetics";
no
>> doubt synthetics are more robust than dinosaur oil and the
Rotella T
>> oils are now split into varying T grades T1 straight grade, T4
triple
>> protection , T5 synthetic and T6 a synthetic extreme temperature.
All
>> have 1200 ppm of ZDDP as far as I can ascertain so the T6 would
be the
>> best, although I'm sure the lesser will do the job.
>>
>> Yes it's confusing, but not rocket science....
>>
>> Personally I use Amsoil Z-Rod in my classic cars and have one of
their
>> preferred customer accounts for discount as I also buy pure
racing oils
>> and marine products.
>>
>> Julian
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Himes, Terry (397C)
<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To:
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Suggestions
>>
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>> I don't want to startup the oil discussion again. But does
anyone have
>> thoughts on
>> Rotella Type T 15w40. Which is a heavy duty diesel oil. It was
>> suggested by a local
>> Mustang shop. I like to use the best oil. No synthetics.
>> My rebuilt 351c (nothing fancy done, just the normal upgrades)
has
>> about 3,500 miles
>> on it and running great.
>> Thanks so much.
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[1]mailto:thimes at jpl.na
sa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of
Julian Kift
>>
<julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:julian_
kift at hotmail.com>>
>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:56 AM
>> To: Owen Cooke
<owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen at tadhgcooke
.com>>,
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> It's great to hear that you now have a functioning cooling
system,
>> although I have to wonder which of the particular changes
contributed
>> most, I suspect the thermostat housing being blocked off was a
bulk of
>> the problem.
>> I had a similar experience when I got my first Pantera, it
overheated
>> in traffic, so I jumped on the web found all these articles about
>> swapping radiators and fans etc. and duly went and purchased a
setup.
>> When I got to going through the car checking the thermostat I
found it
>> was a Windsor style, I swapped it for the correct Cleveland
t-stat and
>> voila heating issues resolved.
>> It's just a reminder to check the simple stuff prior to laying
out big
>> $$$, even now I think there are still a lot of myths' perpetuated
about
>> these cars... like someone once said "why let the truth get in
the way
>> of a good story"
>> Julian
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf of Owen
Cooke
>>
<owen at tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen at tadhgcooke.com><mailto:owen at tadhgcooke
.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 AM
>> To:
>>
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19
>> guys
>> i had overheating problems
>> i put in a new hall brass rad but my car had bleed pipe from the
rad
>> back to the swirl tank and no fitting in halls rad for it apart
from a
>> top bleed screw
>> so i made a junction to fit the original bleed screw and the
bleed pipe
>> to it
>> then new mariah (is that the right name) that fir on the stock
brackets
>> and wired them directly from the battery to the relays
>> i found the hole under the thermostat was blocked with solder
>> i removed that and fitted a new stat
>> now all is perfect temp wise - warms up steady and holds the 90c
or
>> 195f in all conditions
>> my gauge with sender in block beside the pump/stat ready 150f but
its
>> steady and i know what to expect
>> very happy with result
>> owen cooke
>> On 16/09/2016 23:31,
>>
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>> 3. Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
>> 4. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (LSJ)
>> 5. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
>> 6. Re: Fans and shroud (Jack Donahue)
>> 7. Re: Fans and shroud (Larry Stock)
>> 8. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
>> 9. Re: Fans and shroud (Ken Green)
>> 10. McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
>> 11. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
>> 12. Re: Tires for Grp IV Flared Car (MyCars)
>> 13. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Will Kooiman)
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>> 15. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Stock)
>> 16. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
>> 17. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Julian Kift)
>> 18. Re: Sanden Compressors noises (Mike Drew)
>> 19. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Larry Finch)
>> 20. Re: McLeod hydraulic throw out (Cullen McCann)
>> 21. NPC, Need transmission suggestions (michael frazier)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:29:46 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
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>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:54:05 +0000
>> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>>
<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry
.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> To: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>,
>>
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<D4016E9F.92F3B%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:
D4016E9F.92F3B%thimes at jpl.na<mailto:thimes at jpl.na>
>> sa.gov<http://sa.gov>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[4]mailto:thimes at jpl.na
sa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.na
>> sa.gov<http://sa.gov>>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>>
r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>><mailto:detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com>>
>> on behalf of Jack Donahue
>>
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
>> ail.com<http://ail.com>>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to
deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.na
sa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
rver.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
>> rver.detomasolist.com<http://rver.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>>
<[3]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta
@gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>>
<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>>
<[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes
Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED
to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says
they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans,
but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"
-
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:03:20 -0700
>> From: MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>
>> To:
>>
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
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3618-1132-2455f7b0aca2 at comcast.net><mailto:6fa00360-0d5e-
>>
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t.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: LSJ
<lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com><mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.co
m>>
>> To: MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>,
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
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<1287234121.1004140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1287234121.1004
140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com><mailto:1287234121.1004
>>
140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:140.1474045730621 at mail.yahoo.co
m>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> What size wheel up front?
>> ?LSJ
>> central wines-spirits?? est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>> From: MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>
>> To:
>>
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>>
[2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>
>> To:
>>
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m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> 2. [17]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
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>> 4.
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:13:05 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>>
<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry
.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
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CC-859D-437A8528952A at gmail.com><mailto:09791B61-DE0D-40
>>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Terry - I don?t have the original radiator - I currently have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C condenser in
front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend of
mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a shroud -
says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT LEAST
get one
>> for the whole ?Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds good
-
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I was
>> ?converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable -
and more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>>
<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:terry
.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to deal
with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><[20]mailto:thimes at jpl.n
asa.gov>
>> <[21]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> ??
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>>
>> <[22]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
of
>> Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>
>> <[23]mailto:demongusta at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[24]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[25]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[26]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om> <[27]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> Terry - I don't have the original radiator - I currently
have a
>> Fluidyne with twin suckers, tilted forward, and A/C
condenser in
>> front.
>> Originally, I wanted to just add a shroud, based on a friend
of
>> mine
>> who does some serious off-road driving - he swears by a
shroud -
>> says
>> it really made a difference for him and that I should AT
LEAST get
>> one
>> for the whole "Pantera-Heat-Prevention Program. That sounds
good -
>> (PHPP). Anyway, the more I looked into things, the more I
was
>> "converted" to brass/copper as it seems to be more reliable
- and
>> more
>> repairable (which I like).
>> jack
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>>
<[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:te
rry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
>> wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Good stuff. I too am running the original radiator with new
>> fans. I'm
>> not going to change it
>> now but I will follow your progress. Someday I will have to
deal
>> with
>> it. So keep posting and
>> I will keep saving the responses. ;-)
>> Terry
>> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
>> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>> Terry W. Himes
>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>
[2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.na
sa.gov>
>> From: DeTomaso
>>
<[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
rver.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
>> rver.detomasolist.com<http://rver.detomasolist.com>>> on behalf
>> of Jack Donahue
>>
<[4]demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta
@gmail.com>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> To:
>>
"[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>>
<[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Cc:
>>
"[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>"
>>
>>
<[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
>> about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
>> radiator,
>> since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes
Mike
>> Drew, I
>> have to admit it's because I want to, not necessarily NEED
to. It
>> ain't
>> broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn't want to admit that,
>> but...Lol.
>> There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don't want to
>> mention it
>> right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says
they
>> will
>> "build-to-suit" - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> "tried-and-proven".
>> Now - fans. I really don't know the brand name of my fans,
but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12" diameter - and the blades are "curved"
-
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone's post about the
Flex-a-lite's
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> 7. [37]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:17:31 -0700
>> From: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> To:
GR2835 at comcast.net<mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net><[41]mailto:GR2835 at comcast
.net>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<2334BABE-726C-4D16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D
16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com><mailto:2334BABE-726C-4D
>>
16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com<mailto:16-85EA-BB997B2B61CB at gmail.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> There-in lies one of my problems - I could never MAKE a shroud. I
wish
>> I could - maybe out of foil-wrap. I will check out that website,
>> thanks.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:07 AM,
>>
GR2835 at comcast.net<mailto:GR2835 at comcast.net><[42]mailto:GR2835 at comcast
.net> wrote:
>> Pantera Electronics has recommended fans with part numbers under
the
>> fan controller button on their website.
>> I have a stock radiator that was modified for lay down and air
>> conditioning condenser up front........I have a fan shroud that I
made
>> and mounted the 2 sucker fans. 192 thermostat ran 192 in a 14
mile
>> traffic jam last year that.took me 90 minutes to get
>> through.......temperature was 98 degrees leaving the 2015
Woodward
>> Cruise...........my wife complained that she was too cold with
the air
>> set on the warmest setting.
>> Good luck
>> Gerry in Illinois
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> To:
>>
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Cc:
>>
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:29:46 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:26 -0700
>> From: Larry Stock
>>
<larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com><mailto:larrys@
panteraparts.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<D4018324.17A0EF%larrys at panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys at panteraparts.com
><mailto:D4018324.17A0EF%larrys@
>> panteraparts.com<http://panteraparts.com>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> Hi Jack,
>> You should be able to use the fans off the Fluidyne, if not we
have our
>> Maridyne system fans and our own bracket kit and if you need
shrouds
>> for a
>> full lie-down system, we have those too. Typically we recommend
our
>> half
>> Lay forward system which minimizes the thru air turbulence.
>> 11041B Defl. Rad. S.S. Lay down for kit $95.00
>> 11042B Stainless deflector right $65.00
>> 11043B Stainless deflector left $65.00
>> 11055B Radiator Puller Fan Shroud SS Mounting brackets set of 3
$125.00
>> 11055P PPC Puller Fans & Shroud Assy $325.00
>> If the Hall Brass radiator has the stock quick 90 degree hard
radiator
>> tubes installed, you will not be able to mount a puller fan
shroud
>> under
>> those tubes, if it has the straight out tubes then you can use 90
>> degree
>> molded rubber hoses to clear the Puller shroud like your
Fluidyne.
>> Larry Stock
>> Pantera Parts Connection LC
>> 550 Mallory Way
>> Carson City NV 89701
>>
[44]www.PanteraParts.com<http://www.panteraparts.com><http://www.Panter
aParts.com<http://www.panteraparts.com>>
>> PH 775-283-4411
>> Fax 775-283-4410
>> Cell 1-800-DeTomaso 800-338-6627
>> On 9/16/16, 9:29 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack Donahue"
>>
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com><mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
>> r.detomasolist.com<http://r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>>
demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gma
il.com>> wrote:
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about
>> radiators
>> - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I
wanted
>> brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to
admit
>> it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t broke,
but I
>> am
>> fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really
is an
>> ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it right now;
but I
>> ran
>> my idea past Brassworks - who says they will ?build-to-suit? -
but
>> the
>> Hall unit looks to be ?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and
>> Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the Flex-a-lite?s
since
>> they
>> said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect
match
>> for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a
part
>> number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:09:55 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>>
<cmccann1972 at gmail.com<mailto:cmccann1972 at gmail.com><mailto:cmccann1972
@gmail.com>>
>> To:
>>
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m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>>
>>
<CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com<mai
lto:CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com>
<mai
>>
lto:CAFwr-MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com<
mailto:MXfE-RBLar+qAHGPYYWnwSszwYufvAcAcUT2ngvZZ1Aqg at mail.gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing that
they
>> say is
>> Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your experience? I've
had a
>> fantastic experience with them on another performance car
application.
>> [46]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Good afternoon!
>> Has anyone installed the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing
that
>> they
>> say is Pantera specific for the ZF, and what was your
experience?
>> I've
>> had a fantastic experience with them on another performance
car
>> application.
>> [1]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> Thank you!!
>> References
>> 1. [47]https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1402-22
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Ken Green
<kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com><mailto:kenn_green at ya
hoo.com>>
>> To: Jack Donahue
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>,
>>
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Message-ID:
>>
<1796334072.2409059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:1796334072.2409
059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com><mailto:1796334072.2409
>>
059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:059.1474054066544 at mail.yahoo.co
m>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> Jack,
>> ??? You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>>
[48]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/uni
>> versal/primary-fans.html
>> From: Jack Donahue
>>
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about?
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator,
since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum.? And, yes Mike Drew, I
have to
>> admit it?s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain?t
broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didn?t want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just don?t want to mention it
right
>> now; but I ran my idea past? Brassworks? - who says they will
>> ?build-to-suit? - but the Hall unit looks to be
?tried-and-proven?.
>> Now - fans. I really don?t know the brand name of my fans, but
they are
>> suckers - about 12? diameter - and the blades are ?curved?? -
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah,
SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone?s post about the
Flex-a-lite?s
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that
is a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone
>> offered-up? a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal
for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
>> _______________________________________________
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>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of
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>> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an
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>> -------------- next part --------------
>> Jack,
>> You should be able to find the fan and shroud here:
>>
>>
[1]https://www.flex-a-lite.com/electric-fans/12-volt-electric-fans/univ
>> ersal/primary-fans.html
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: Jack Donahue
>>
<demongusta at gmail.com<mailto:demongusta at gmail.com><mailto:demongusta at gm
ail.com>>
>> To:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Cc:
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
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om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:29 AM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fans and shroud
>> Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List
about
>> radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall
radiator,
>> since I
>> wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike
Drew, I
>> have to
>> admit itas because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It
ainat
>> broke,
>> but I am fixing it(?). Didnat want to admit that, but...Lol.
There
>> really is an ulterior motive, but I just donat want to
mention it
>> right
>> now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they
will
>> abuild-to-suita - but the Hall unit looks to be
>> atried-and-provena.
>> Now - fans. I really donat know the brand name of my fans,
but
>> they are
>> suckers - about 12a diameter - and the blades are acurveda
-
>> sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are
Mariah,
>> SPAL,
>> and Flex-a-lite. I had read someoneas post about the
Flex-a-liteas
>> since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud
that is
>> a
>> perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And
someone
>> offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All
normal
>> for
>> me.
>> So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions:
>> jack
>> #4348
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:17 -0700
>> From: Larry Finch
<fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinch
es at aol.com>>
>> To: Email List Address For Posting
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>> Subject: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
>>
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-A0DC-59494515D156 at aol.com><mailto:6C366701-6502-47C0
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently did so using what I believe to be their current
offering. I
>> spoke with and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit I had previously used, using the same number off of the
previous
>> invoice. What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the
current
>> unit which uses an entirely different set of all rings. I
ultimately
>> determined that for all three generations of their hydraulic
bearing
>> McLeod has used exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They
added no
>> suffix such as a ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a
problem
>> within the company. No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for
the
>> first two generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite
exacting
>> and unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do
but
>> pull the transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:41 -0700
>> From: MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>
>> To: LSJ
<lashdeep at yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.com><mailto:lashdeep at yahoo.co
m>>,
>>
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>"
>>
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
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3ce5-f312-4dd9b1c3f234 at comcast.net><mailto:37e8f14d-dde9-
>>
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t.net>>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San Diego
area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are about
9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> /*central */
>> /*wines-spirits est 1934
>> */
>> /*
>> */
>> /*625 e street nw
>> */
>> /*washington, dc 20004*/
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>> */
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<[53]http://centralwines.com/>
>> */
>> /*
>> */
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<[54]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
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>> /*
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>>
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>> -
>> *From:* MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>
>> *To:*
>>
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m><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.co
>> m>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall) tires
for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall). This
would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>>
[2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
[3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast
.net>>
>> To:
>>
[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:00:36 -0700
>> From: MyCars
<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast.ne
t>>
>> To:
>>
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>> m>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>> I just checked Weld's website
>>
[63]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar
>> .html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they are
9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>>
[2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
[3]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comcast
.net>>
>> To:
>>
[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist
>> .com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the
front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> I just checked Weld's website
>>
>>
[1]http://weldwheels.com/shop/street-strip/sport-forged-wheels/prostar.
>> html
>> They do not offer a 15" rim 9.5" wide, so I would guess they
are
>> 9"
>> wide
>> On 9/16/2016 12:50 PM, MyCars wrote:
>> Going off memory (my car is still in Seattle) I am in San
Diego
>> area.
>> They are 15" Aluminum Weld 5-spoke rims, that I believe are
about
>> 9.5"
>> wide.
>> On 9/16/2016 10:08 AM, LSJ wrote:
>> What size wheel up front?
>> LSJ
>> central
>> wines-spirits est 1934
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>> [1]centralwines.com<http://centralwines.com>
>>
[2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors<http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
__________________________________________________________________
>> From: MyCars
[3][2]<mycars at comcast.net<mailto:mycars at comcast.net><mailto:mycars at comc
ast.net>>
>> To:
>>
[[3]4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasol
ist.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasol
>> ist.com<http://ist.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:03 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tires for Grp IV Flared Car
>> I just bought 345-35 R15 Pirelli Asimmetrico (24.8" tall)
tires
>> for the
>> rear and wondering what would be a good match for the front.
>> I found 225-50 R15 Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R (23.9" tall).
This
>> would
>> give
>> the car a bit of rake, but what would the handling be like?
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts
>> Roy
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:26:27 -0400
>> From: Will Kooiman
>>
<will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooi
man at gmail.com>>
>> To: Larry Finch
<fresnofinches at aol.com<mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com><mailto:fresnofinch
es at aol.com>>,
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out
>> Message-ID:
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>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:50:41 -0500
>> From: Cullen McCann
>>
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>> To: Will Kooiman
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>> om>>,
>> Larry Finch
>>
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>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like
Will, I
>> have
>> one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been
there for
>> several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that
was
>> "new"
>> but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire
about
>> fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a
positive
>> experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a
>> scattershield,
>> bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years
ago.
>> Havent had a lick of trouble. (knocking on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the
clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and
ive
>> had a
>> bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in
the
>> past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I
set up
>> my P
>> car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not
to
>> use
>> the factory unit. Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>>
<will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.kooi
man at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium. Rather than
building a
>> new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
om><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.c
>> om>> wrote:
>> Cullen,
>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
it in
>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
with
>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
snout
>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
still had
>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90?
fitting
>> where one should have used a 45? fitting, twisted itself, unseen
of
>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
line
>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
hold up
>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
sticking
>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
rebuild
>> kit
>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
unit
>> which
>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
determined
>> that
>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
used
>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
such as
>> a
>> ? A or a ?B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
generations.
>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
the
>> task
>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
and
>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
pull
>> the
>> transaxle and start all over again.
>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
as has
>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
fine.
>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
on my
>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
that
>> road for themselves.
>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
gory
>> details.
>> Larry
>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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>> Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am
like
>> Will, I
>> have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its
been
>> there
>> for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought
one
>> that
>> was "new" but several generations old, and when I called
McLeod to
>> inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit
just to
>> "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a
performance
>> clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the
instructions
>> and
>> that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of trouble.A
>> (knocking
>> on wood now).
>> the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit
the
>> clutch
>> fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail,
and
>> ive
>> had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables
breaking
>> in
>> the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
>> however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as
I set
>> up
>> my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I
choose
>> not
>> to use the factory unit.A Thank you sir.
>> Cullen
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
>>
<[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com><mailto:will.k
ooiman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Wow.
>> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked
perfectly.
>> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was
>> readily
>> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A Rather
than
>> building a new
>> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod
slave.
>> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>> --
>> Will
>> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
>>
>>
<[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
t.com><mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolis
>> t.com<http://t.com>>> wrote:
>>> Cullen,
>>>
>>> 2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased
>> it
>> in
>>> 2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
>> recently
>>> did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke
>> with
>>> and ordered directly from McLeod.
>>>
>>> My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
>>>
>>> The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input
>> snout
>>> spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I
>> still
>> had
>>> on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
>> fitting
>>> where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself,
>> unseen of
>>> course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard
>> line
>>> attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't
>> hold
>> up
>>> very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
>>>
>>> The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long,
>> sticking
>>> outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
>>>
>>> Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same
>> rebuild
>> kit
>>> I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
>> invoice.
>>> What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current
>> unit
>> which
>>> uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately
>> determined
>> that
>>> for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has
>> used
>>> exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix
>> such as
>> a
>>> A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
>> company.
>>> No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
>> generations.
>>>
>>> While you have some experience in using one of these previously,
>> the
>> task
>>> of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting
>> and
>>> unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but
>> pull
>> the
>>> transaxle and start all over again.
>>>
>>> The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and
>> as
>> has
>>> been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just
>> fine.
>>> Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based
>> on my
>>> experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down
>> that
>>> road for themselves.
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the
>> gory
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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