[DeTomaso] McLeod hydraulic throw out

Fri Sep 16 16:50:41 EDT 2016

Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like Will, I have
one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been there for
several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that was "new"
but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to inquire about
fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to "ensure a positive
experience". I installed it with a performance clutch and a scattershield,
bled it according to the instructions and that was about 4 years ago.
Havent had a lick of trouble.  (knocking on wood now).

the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the clutch
fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and ive had a
bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in the
past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.

however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set up my P
car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not to use
the factory unit.  Thank you sir.

Cullen

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wow.
>
> I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
>
> My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
> available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.  Rather than building a new
> bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
>
> At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
>
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> >Cullen,
> >
> >2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it in
> >2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most recently
> >did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
> >and ordered directly from McLeod.
> >
> >My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
> >
> >The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
> >spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still had
> >on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90° fitting
> >where one should have used a 45° fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
> >course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
> >attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold up
> >very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
> >
> >The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
> >outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
> >
> >Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild kit
> >I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous invoice.
> >What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit which
> >uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined that
> >for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
> >exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as a
> > A or a B which to me seems indicative of a problem within the company.
> >No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two generations.
> >
> >While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the task
> >of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
> >unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull the
> >transaxle and start all over again.
> >
> >The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as has
> >been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
> >Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
> >experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
> >road for themselves.
> >
> >Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
> >details.
> >
> >Larry
> >
> >Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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   Thank you Larry. You answered my question perfectly. I am like Will, I
   have one on my Cobra as well, with a ford Top Loader and its been there
   for several years and Ive always loved it. I actually bought one that
   was "new" but several generations old, and when I called McLeod to
   inquire about fresh O-rings, they sent me a brand new unit just to
   "ensure a positive experience". I installed it with a performance
   clutch and a scattershield, bled it according to the instructions and
   that was about 4 years ago. Havent had a lick of trouble.A  (knocking
   on wood now).
   the frame rails on my cobra are 24" apart and I couldn't fit the clutch
   fork between the side of the bellhousing and the frame rail, and ive
   had a bad experience with performance clutches and cables breaking in
   the past...so I went the hydraulic route and have loved it.
   however... I will certainly consider carefully this drama as I set up
   my P car. I have a plan B with an external slave also, if I choose not
   to use the factory unit.A  Thank you sir.
   Cullen

   On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Will Kooiman
   <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

     Wow.
     I have one in my Cobra, and so far it has worked perfectly.
     My Cobra came with an external slave from a Volvo that was readily
     available 20 years ago, but is now unobtanium.A  Rather than
     building a new
     bracket for a different slave, I switched to a McLeod slave.
     At any rate, as I said, it has worked perfectly - so far.
     --
     Will
     On 9/16/16 3:35 PM, "Larry Finch via DeTomaso"

   <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >Cullen,
   >
   >2511 came equipped with one of those from Dennis when I purchased it
   in
   >2002. Since then I have rebuilt the unit twice (three?) and most
   recently
   >did so using what I believe to be their current offering. I spoke with
   >and ordered directly from McLeod.
   >
   >My opinion, in brief, is a very simple "NO!!"
   >
   >The current offering was shipped to me with an incorrect input snout
   >spacer (I solved that by using the old spacer which luckily I still
   had
   >on hand), and the stainless steel input line, due to its 90ADEG
   fitting
   >where one should have used a 45ADEG fitting, twisted itself, unseen of
   >course, within the bell housing when it was connected to the hard line
   >attached to the chassis rails. Even stainless steel lines don't hold
   up
   >very long against grinding by a pressure plate.
   >
   >The stainless steel bleed line is about 4 inches too long, sticking
   >outside the bell housing in a terrible display of ugly.
   >
   >Finally, my last experience started with me ordering the same rebuild
   kit
   >I had previously used, using the same number off of the previous
   invoice.
   >What I received from them was the rebuild kit for the current unit
   which
   >uses an entirely different set of all rings. I ultimately determined
   that
   >for all three generations of their hydraulic bearing McLeod has used
   >exactly the same rebuild kit part number. They added no suffix such as
   a
   >A A or a AB which to me seems indicative of a problem within the
   company.
   >No, they no longer support a rebuild kit for the first two
   generations.
   >
   >While you have some experience in using one of these previously, the
   task
   >of establishing proper free play and clearances is quite exacting and
   >unforgiving. If you get it wrong there is nothing left to do but pull
   the
   >transaxle and start all over again.
   >
   >The unit I have is now adjusted for the factory shortcomings and as
   has
   >been my experience for over 50,000 miles, the system works just fine.
   >Dennis however no longer recommends their installation and based on my
   >experience I would not encourage any other owners to venture down that
   >road for themselves.
   >
   >Feel free to reach out to me off-line or by phone for more of the gory
   >details.
   >
   >Larry
   >
   >Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
   >_______________________________________________
   >
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