[DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises

Rob Dumoulin rob at dumoulins.net
Thu Sep 15 11:42:00 EDT 2016


The condenser is new, the evaporator flushed, a new dryer installed, and
the expansion valve replaced this last time under the same suspicion.

Something hitting the firewall sounded like an interesting theory. If my
harmonic balancer were the culprit, could it possibly go wonky (a technical
term) only when the compressor is engaged?  I will pull the firewall out
this weekend and get a better look at it.

Rob

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
wrote:

> I am guessing that the system hasn¹t been flushed and cleaned out
> thoroughly enough. When a compressor blows up the aluminum vains break up
> scattering little bits of metal thought the system. They can get caught in
> the condenser and evaporator. You need may not be able to do a simple
> reverse flush without opening up the entire system to get all the crap out
> of the Evaporator and Condenser if it got that far and in this case it
> sounds like it has.
> Kirk¹s system uses a ³Fitted Belt² pulley system that is a little tricky
> to install, but typically can¹t over stress a compressor nose bearing very
> easily.
> LARRY
>
> On 9/15/16, 8:02 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   In my experience it is rare for a compressor to fail, so being on your
> >   third I have to wonder whether the compressor is being over stressed
> >   somehow. Are the belts perfectly aligned? Not many people realize but
> >   the compressor brackets are sold in 1/4" offset increments to align
> >   different compressors.
> >   Julian
> >     __________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> >   Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> >   Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:04 AM
> >   To: Pantera Mail List
> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
> >
> >   I've got the Kirk Evans bulkhead reduction kit and pulley setup that
> >   drives
> >   the compressor from the crank and the alternator from the compressor.
> >   I am
> >   on my third Sanden rotory compressor and this time I had new high and
> >   low
> >   pressure switches installed by an AC shop.
> >   With the compressor off, there are no issues.
> >   With the compressor on, at 2,500 the brand new compressor makes a
> >   metallic
> >   clanking noise.  This is the same noise that occurred before the last 2
> >   compressors failed. The noise builds up and if you let off on the revs,
> >   it
> >   slowly decreases.
> >   Is this noise from over-revving?  Over pressurization?  Defective
> >   compressor?
> >   Any ideas welcome.
> >   Thanks,
> >   Rob
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   The condenser is new, the evaporator flushed, a new dryer installed,
   and the expansion valve replaced this last time under the same
   suspicion.A
   Something hitting the firewall sounded like an interesting theory. If
   my harmonic balancer were the culprit, could it possibly go wonky (a
   technical term) only when the compressor is engaged?A  I will pull the
   firewall out this weekend and get a better look at it.
   RobA
   On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Larry Stock
   <[1]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

     I am guessing that the system hasnA^1t been flushed and cleaned out
     thoroughly enough. When a compressor blows up the aluminum vains
     break up
     scattering little bits of metal thought the system. They can get
     caught in
     the condenser and evaporator. You need may not be able to do a
     simple
     reverse flush without opening up the entire system to get all the
     crap out
     of the Evaporator and Condenser if it got that far and in this case
     it
     sounds like it has.
     KirkA^1s system uses a A^3Fitted BeltA^2 pulley system that is a
     little tricky
     to install, but typically canA^1t over stress a compressor nose
     bearing very
     easily.
     LARRY
     On 9/15/16, 8:02 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift"
     <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     [3]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
     >A  A In my experience it is rare for a compressor to fail, so being
     on your
     >A  A third I have to wonder whether the compressor is being over
     stressed
     >A  A somehow. Are the belts perfectly aligned? Not many people
     realize but
     >A  A the compressor brackets are sold in 1/4" offset increments to
     align
     >A  A different compressors.
     >A  A Julian
     >A  A  A ______________________________
     ____________________________________
     >
     >A  A From: DeTomaso <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
     on behalf of
     >A  A Rob Dumoulin <[5]rob at dumoulins.net>
     >A  A Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:04 AM
     >A  A To: Pantera Mail List
     >A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Sanden Compressors noises
     >
     >A  A I've got the Kirk Evans bulkhead reduction kit and pulley
     setup that
     >A  A drives
     >A  A the compressor from the crank and the alternator from the
     compressor.
     >A  A I am
     >A  A on my third Sanden rotory compressor and this time I had new
     high and
     >A  A low
     >A  A pressure switches installed by an AC shop.
     >A  A With the compressor off, there are no issues.
     >A  A With the compressor on, at 2,500 the brand new compressor
     makes a
     >A  A metallic
     >A  A clanking noise.A  This is the same noise that occurred before
     the last 2
     >A  A compressors failed. The noise builds up and if you let off on
     the revs,
     >A  A it
     >A  A slowly decreases.
     >A  A Is this noise from over-revving?A  Over pressurization?A
     Defective
     >A  A compressor?
     >A  A Any ideas welcome.
     >A  A Thanks,
     >A  A Rob

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