[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. byrdjf at embarqmail.com
Wed Sep 14 21:40:06 EDT 2016


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From: Tom Shinrock [mailto:tmshinro at aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 21:33 PM
To: byrdjf at embarqmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

 

In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures before.  Thanks for sharing 

 

Tom 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
To: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.

I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow



cid:image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40


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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com?> ] On
Behalf Of Larry Stock
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
To: Ken Green; rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After
Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler
and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they
ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in
Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help
here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
see the need get out much.

Larry


On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"

<[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:


> Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a

> Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a

> solution that doesn't look like an after thought?

> Ken

>
__________________________________________________________________

>

> From: "[2]rfmccall at comcast.net" <[3]rfmccall at comcast.net>

> To: "gaino, bill" <[4]gaino at earthlink.net>

> Cc: Email List Address For Posting
<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;

> Larry Finch <[6]fresnofinches at aol.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM

> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

> Here is a pic from FB.

> Ron

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> To: "Larry Finch" <[2][8]fresnofinches at aol.com>, "Email List
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> Posting" <[3][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM

> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

> The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362

>
[4][10]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref
=ts&

> fref=ts

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> >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

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> >All,

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> >I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my

> previous post seems to have lost its subject line.

> >

> >Please don't shoot the messenger.

> >

> >Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring
Brothers

> hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
F-up

> the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.

> >

> >Larry

> >

> >I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out

> necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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   From: Tom Shinrock [mailto:tmshinro at aol.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 21:33 PM
   To: byrdjf at embarqmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


   In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related
   material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures
   before.  Thanks for sharing


   Tom

   5186

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[1]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   To: 'Pantera Mail List' <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
   I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
   Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow
   cid:[3]image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Larry Stock
   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
   To: Ken Green; [5]rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
   Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After
   Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler
   and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they
   ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in
   Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help
   here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
   see the need get out much.
   Larry
   On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
   <[1]detomaso-[6]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   > Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
   > Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
   > solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
   > Ken
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: "[2][8]rfmccall at comcast.net" <[3][9]rfmccall at comcast.net>
   > To: "gaino, bill" <[4][10]gaino at earthlink.net>
   > Cc: Email List Address For Posting
   <[5][11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
   > Larry Finch <[6][12]fresnofinches at aol.com>
   > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   > Here is a pic from FB.
   > Ron
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "bill gaino" <[1][7][13]gaino at earthlink.net>
   > To: "Larry Finch" <[2][8][14]fresnofinches at aol.com>, "Email List
   Address For
   > Posting" <[3][9][15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   > The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362
   >
   [4][10][16]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634
   ?ref
   =ts&
   > fref=ts
   > If you want it slick. [11][17]www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook
   > -----Original Message-----
   > >From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso
   <[5][12][18]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > >Sent: Sep 13, 2016 1:03 PM
   > >To: Email List Address For Posting
   > <[6][13][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   > >
   > >All,
   > >
   > >I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
   > previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
   > >
   > >Please don't shoot the messenger.
   > >
   > >Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring
   Brothers
   > hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
   F-up
   > the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.
   > >
   > >Larry
   > >
   > >I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
   > necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
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  39. mailto:rfmccall at comcast.net?
  40. mailto:rfmccall at comcast.net?
  41. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net?
  42. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  43. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com?
  44. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net?
  45. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com?
  46. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  47. https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&
  48. http://www.slickpaint.com/
  49. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  50. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  51. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  52. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  53. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  54. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  55. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net?
  56. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com?
  57. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  58. https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fre
  59. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  60. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  61. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  62. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  63. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  64. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  65. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  66. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  67. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com?
  68. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  69. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  70. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso


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