[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 13 14:29:56 EDT 2016


Scott,


All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen.  It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine.


I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show!


As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula.


I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here.....


Julian

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From: Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


Come on Julian!!! Play nice…



Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done.



I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night!





From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM
To: Scott Bell; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud



Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously.....



After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! [??]



Julian



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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud



OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value.

To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe.

I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car.

We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it...

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM
To: Mike Drew
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s  “no-sale  —  AFTER  -   they break it.

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>
> Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
>
> He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
>
> Sigh.....
>
> Mike
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> On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
> being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
> Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So
> I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
> auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
> said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
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> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
> Mark H Gmail <sennamick at gmail.com<mailto:sennamick at gmail.com>>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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>> San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
> deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
>> If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500
> I think it was.
>> Pretty cheeep!
>>
>> Mark
>> 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com>>
> wrote:
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>> Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
>> Joe/nc
>>
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>> It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278
> (DSCHD) mike
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>> Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on
> the
>> Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST
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   Scott,

   All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from
   the photos I have seen.  It seems that GM finally recognize where the
   engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid
   engine.

   I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of
   the show!

   As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open
   wheel formula.

   I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design
   stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there
   that should take the heat off you for a while on here.....

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Scott Bell <scott at saccrestorations.net>
   Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM
   To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

   Come on Julian!!! Play nice...


   Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there
   with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit
   different than what others have done.


   I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this
   list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to
   sleep at night!



   From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM
   To: Scott Bell; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


   Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list
   seriously.....


   After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it!
   ��


   Julian

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   From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Scott Bell <[2]scott at saccrestorations.net>
   Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM
   To: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


   OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV,
   on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned
   to do that seen for the shock value.
   To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I
   supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe.
   I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash
   the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car.
   We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you
   aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over
   it...
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Jack Donahue
   Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM
   To: Mike Drew
   Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady's car down the street and do
   burn-outs in it before buying it. A...holes!! I guess it's  "no-sale
   --  AFTER  -   they break it.
   > On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   > Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations
   to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show
   car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That
   was last year sometime.
   >
   > He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego.
   It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't
   connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked
   out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
   >
   > Sigh.....
   >
   > Mike
   >
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   <[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
   > being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
   > Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back.
   So
   > I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
   > auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
   > said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
   >
   > Julian
   > __________________________________________________________________
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   > Sent: M
   > onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM
   > To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
   > Cc: Pantera Mail List
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   >
   >> San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
   > deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
   >> If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for
   $28,500
   > I think it was.
   >> Pretty cheeep!
   >>
   >> Mark
   >> 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
   <[10]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >>
   >> Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
   >> Joe/nc
   >>
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   >>
   >> It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278
   > (DSCHD) mike
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