[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

Tue Sep 13 11:34:09 EDT 2016

Well, they say they want to finish it in time but maybe that was a bridge too far.  Comprehensively destroying a Pantera is a big job and they may have missed the deadline. 

Or, the resultant car is such a flaming POS that they wisely decide to avoid the inevitable humiliation that would result if it was to roll across the auction block, so they announce that they like it so much that it's too "good" to let go, so they keep it for themselves. 

It will be interesting to see. 

I imagine they are pulling a lot of good parts off this car--wheels, brakes, interior...some enterprising Dallas Pantera guy should go over there and see if the bits can be scooped up and then distributed to more deserving people via eBay?

Mike

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On Tuesday, September 13, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

Well they paid $10K for the truck to get a 133,000 mile eco-boost
engine out of, when they got it out it looked like it had been driven
through every ranch in Texas!

I can't believe some sucker will pay 6 figures for this, but then
doesn't he generally lose money anyway?

This Pantera does not show on the docket or in the results for the BJ
Northeast auction held end of June, so maybe there is a non disclosure
until the show has aired. Even so you'd expect some noise out there
from people at the auction, I found a video of his Ford Gt going across
the block and a list of 12 cars he had there, no mention of a Panetra
though.

Julian
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I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard;

He was expecting a "six figure" sale price.
He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks
And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget!

Those last two had be thinking.6 weeks and even for trice the high
budget,
maybe I should get them to put mine back together . comments Bill, Ron!

(truth being even for the low budget, I would NOT let them do it)

If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ
stage?

Joe/NC

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Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't
realized
or missed the part where it got snatched by RR.

So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid
$330K
for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip
who I
believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys
are
just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking.

Julian

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From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
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onday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM
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Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations
to buy
the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car)
when it
got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year
sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It
was
worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in
any
way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and
protected
her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So
I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian
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> San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
> If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500
I think it was.
> Pretty cheeep!
>
> Mark
> 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
wrote:
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> Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
> Joe/nc
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> It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278
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> Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on
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