[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. byrdjf at embarqmail.com
Tue Sep 13 10:36:43 EDT 2016


I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard;

 

He was expecting a "six figure" sale price.

He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks

And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget!

 

Those last two had be thinking.6 weeks and even for trice the high budget,
maybe I should get them to put mine back together . comments Bill, Ron!

 

(truth being even for the low budget, I  would NOT let them do it)

 

If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ stage?

 

Joe/NC

 

From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 AM
To: Mike Drew
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

 

Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized
or missed the part where it got snatched by RR.

 

So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K
for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I
believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are
just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking.

 

Julian

 

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Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy
the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it
got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year
sometime. 

He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was
worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any
way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected
her from getting ripped off.

Sigh.....

Mike

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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So
I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.

Julian
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> San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
> If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500
I think it was.
> Pretty cheeep!
>
> Mark
> 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
wrote:
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> Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
> Joe/nc
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> It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278
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   I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard;


   He was expecting a "six figure" sale price.

   He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks

   And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget!


   Those last two had be thinking...6 weeks and even for trice the high
   budget, maybe I should get them to put mine back together ... comments
   Bill, Ron!


   (truth being even for the low budget, I  would NOT let them do it)


   If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ
   stage?


   Joe/NC


   From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 AM
   To: Mike Drew
   Cc: byrdjf at embarqmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
   sennamick at gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


   Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't
   realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR.


   So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid
   $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened
   to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his,
   but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or
   prior thinking.


   Julian

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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud


   Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations
   to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show
   car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That
   was last year sometime.
   He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It
   was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected
   in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former
   and protected her from getting ripped off.
   Sigh.....
   Mike
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   On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
   being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
   Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So
   I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
   auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
   said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
   Julian
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   > San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
   deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
   > If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500
   I think it was.
   > Pretty cheeep!
   >
   > Mark
   > 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[9]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
   > Joe/nc
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