[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 13 10:20:40 EDT 2016


Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR.


So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking.


Julian

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Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.

He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.

Sigh.....

Mike

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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So
I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.

Julian
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> San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
> If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500
I think it was.
> Pretty cheeep!
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> Mark
> 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
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> Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
> Joe/nc
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> It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278
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   Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't
   realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR.

   So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid
   $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened
   to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his,
   but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or
   prior thinking.

   Julian
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   From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
   Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM
   To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
   Cc: byrdjf at embarqmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
   sennamick at gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

   Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations
   to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show
   car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That
   was last year sometime.
   He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It
   was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected
   in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former
   and protected her from getting ripped off.
   Sigh.....
   Mike
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   On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K
   being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam
   Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So
   I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast
   auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that
   said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
   Julian
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   onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   > San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband,
   deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow).
   > If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500
   I think it was.
   > Pretty cheeep!
   >
   > Mark
   > 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Was this car known? I missed the Owners name.
   > Joe/nc
   >
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   > It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278
   (DSCHD) mike
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