[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 7

[Larry Stock]

Either way, individually $500 each or as a package for $850.
Larry

On 9/8/16, 8:58 AM, "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

>Dear Larry,
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>              Dumb question: is your brace system available individually
>or only as a package?
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>                                  Curious,  Chuck Engles
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>On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Stock wrote:
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>> It is the the lower front end of the Pantera that is the weakest point
>> Mike. The Upper front is well braced, it is the lower A-Arm attachment
>> that is left floundering. The Front affects the rear twist. Remember
>> the
>> rear sway bar affects the front end handling part of 101 suspension
>> tuning? I actually cracked (broke off) my front frame member at the
>> attaching points to the Cabin. The only thing that was holding my
>> Pantera
>> together was my frame brace system. The 4 piece system you refer to
>> does
>> nothing to reinforce this weakest point of the Pantera Frame. Our
>> lower
>> front stiffener is a 5 foot long X to cross brace the ³Splice² the
>> factory
>> used to attach the front frame section to the cabin sheetmetal. Our
>> front
>> brace connects the two front frame rails to the cabin lateral (cross
>> stiffener under the front of the seats) that ties to the 3 piece
>> rocker
>> Box panels. Larry
>>
>> On 9/7/16, 6:55 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   In a message dated 9/7/16 9 49 57, owen at tadhgcooke.com writes:
>>>
>>>     I am new to Panteras  having bought one one year ago and reworked
>>> it
>>>     extensively
>>>     i am used to european cars and i know when a chassis twists and
>>>     therefore is poor on the handling side
>>>     the pantera is the only car i ever had that will lift 2 opposite
>>>     wheels
>>>     off the ground if you jack it from one corner
>>>     i believe it is an extremely stiff chassis and needs no further
>>>     stiffening .
>>>     the suspensions may of course need tuning for specific use  but
>>> that
>>>     is
>>>     all in my opinion
>>>     my car at least drives like a go-cart
>>>
>>>>>> Well, it may be stiffer than your other European cars, but without
>>>   knowing what they are, that's not saying much.  1950s British
>>>   roadsters, for instance, are no standard to judge against in this
>>>   department. :>)
>>>   The front of the Pantera is fairly rigid, but the rear is extremely
>>>   flexible.  Try jacking a front corner off the ground and see how
>>> well
>>>   the doors, or the decklid open.
>>>   The four-part chassis stiffening kit addresses this fundamental
>>>   weakness with the piece that replaces the stock engine bay camber
>>> bar.
>>>   The wide open engine bay is rather like a square cardboard box with
>>> the
>>>   top and bottom open, laid on its side.  Push on a corner and it
>>> just
>>>   folds flat.  As long as the stock bar (or equivalent to include the
>>>   adjustable kind) is the only thing there, nothing will prevent this
>>>   effect from happening.  The Hall and Byars kit piece consists of an
>>>   upper and lower bar, tied together in a parallogram manner.  (I'm
>>> only
>>>   talking about the top part of their kit, not the lower part).  As
>>> long
>>>   as the top part is affixed in all four places, it will do a
>>> tremendous
>>>   job of stiffening the rear of the car.
>>>   http://www.precisionproformance.com/pics/rigid4.jpg
>>>   The other three parts of the kit are arguably much less important,
>>> but
>>>   you can't just buy the one you want/need; you have to buy the whole
>>>   kit.
>>>   The front half of my kit is still in the box, gathering dust....
>>>   Mike
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