[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 147, Issue 7

Larry Stock larrys at panteraparts.com
Wed Sep 7 17:32:17 EDT 2016


Our tests show that the body rolls approx. 1.5 degrees without our brace
kit. 
4.5 degrees of body roll without our Brace Kit and 3.0 degrees with our
Brace Kit mounted. 
Larry stock

On 9/7/16, 9:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
owen at tadhgcooke.com> wrote:

>Guys
>
>I am new to Panteras  having bought one one year ago and reworked it
>extensively
>
>i am used to european cars and i know when a chassis twists and
>therefore is poor on the handling side
>
>the pantera is the only car i ever had that will lift 2 opposite wheels
>off the ground if you jack it from one corner
>
>i believe it is an extremely stiff chassis and needs no further
>stiffening .
>
>the suspensions may of course need tuning for specific use  but that is
>all in my opinion
>
>my car at least drives like a go-cart
>
>
>regards owen
>
>
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>> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 09:12:36 -0700
>> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis stiffening kit install
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>> For what it's worth, when I was in Castle Rock a few years ago and had
>> time to visit with Dennis and Adam at Pantera Performance Center,
>> Dennis essentially told me the same thing about the front trunk brace
>> (as I recall).  That it really wasn't necessary and only served to
>> reduce the amount of usable space in a street car that was only
>> occasionally tracked or open road raced.  I believe his recommendation
>> was to not bother with it for most purposes.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Quoting Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>:
>>
>>> If one actually was an engineer and analyzed this brace, it is utterly
>>> useless. It braces the shear wall construction already built into the
>>> upper A-Arm mounting points. Not much movement here with the factory
>>>job.
>>> Lots of help is needed down below to take the twist out of the lower
>>>A-Arm
>>> supports. Larry
>>>
>>> On 9/6/16, 8:18 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Julian Kift"
>>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>>> julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>    I could start by saying leave it i the corner of the garage,
>>>>unless you
>>>>    are building and out and out racer.... it is only purpose in a
>>>>street
>>>>    car is to further limit your wife's luggage allowance, although
>>>>    maybe that could be deemed a positive if she is then limited to
>>>>only
>>>>    taking briefs and bras...
>>>>
>>>>    Others seem to have managed to bolt it in, sitting very low in the
>>>>    trunk (less than an inch between brace and trunk floor). To be
>>>>    functional it should sit directly behind the upper shock mounts.
>>>>    Julian
>>>>      
>>>>__________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>    From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
>>>>behalf of
>>>>    John McKee <johnmckee at cox.net>
>>>>    Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 10:28 PM
>>>>    To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis stiffening kit install
>>>>
>>>>    I am currently working on the front trunk area and I am trying to
>>>>    figure out
>>>>    the best way to mount the triangular upper brace (the part sold by
>>>>    Precision
>>>>    ProFormance). The mounting plates have four bolt holes but it looks
>>>>    like I
>>>>    would not be able to get bolts to work as they would conflict with
>>>>the
>>>>    upper
>>>>    suspension mounting rail. I am thinking the best solution may be to
>>>>    plug
>>>>    weld those holes from the trunk side. Can anyone share their
>>>>experience
>>>>    installing these plates?
>>>>
>>>>    Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>    John
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