[DeTomaso] Flooded Pantera in Baton Rouge

Bill Lewis lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 6 19:24:17 EDT 2016


Assuming no major rust issues - a flood Pantera should be a no-brainer, at the right price, for many Pantera owners.  They take them all apart anyway - for fun - like Legos!  LOL


Speaking of flood water, near me I have seen big blobs of fire ants floating along.  That's how they keep from drowning, so I've been told.      ---BILL L


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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:18 PM
To: cengles at cox.net
Cc: detomaso
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flooded Pantera in Baton Rouge

So they scrap cars even if they are classics?

That is criminal if they scrap that Pantera.

Ed

On Sep 06, 2016, at 04:51 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:

Dear Jeff,

I thought that perhaps you might reply and I thought
that you would have a pretty good idea about what is going on with
these flood damaged sports cars. I am glad that you're OK.

Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:11 PM, JEFFREY COBB wrote:

Chuck,

This car may not be for sale in Louisiana though loopholes are
everywhere.

Louisiana law states this and even more since this is a disaster area.

Basically when the insurance totaled paid off and flooded car is free
of its
owner,
it must be scrapped.

Very sad to leave from after I spent weekend transporting people from
flood waters to going to
Monterey week and then back to this. I have one customer who lost 12
hot rods. I was lucky!

Most dealers do not have used cars to sell and rent cars are coming in
from five states away!

Most did not have insurance because this never should ave happened at
all!

Two of my mechanics have been paid $22,000.each by FEMA within three
days so far for the three feet

of water in their homes.

I felt wrong, guilty, confused, bad and sad leaving the next day but
with my medical condition I could
not go in butt deepwater
full of feces, garbage and diesel/ gasoline fuels floating on top to
help my friends.

Enjoyed seeing and talking with you deTomaso guys and gals out in the
dry world.

Quack quack.

Jeff Cobb

Baton Rouge, La.

225-907-4514

Bordinat Mangusta

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As of Wednesday, State Farm -- just one of the insurers that serves car
owners in the area
-- had received
almost 18,000 auto claims related to flooding.

That number was more than double the number of homeowner claims the
company had received, spokesman
Roszell Gadsen said.

With such a large volume, towing companies have been stretched to the
limit.

aWeave been working around the clock,a said Ronnie
Stewart,
of Stewartas Towing in
Livingston Parish.

aItas been hectic and crazy,a Stewart said. He estimated that his
company, a small one with four
trucks, had towed more than
300 cars since the waters receded.

There were still plenty more left to be towed.

aWe probably havenat put a dent in all the cars thatas flooded,a he
said.

In East Baton Rouge Parish, the woman who answered the phone at
Roadrunner Towing said there were
no words to describe how busy it had been. Roadrunner, which has
contracts with several local police
agencies, had towed more than 700 vehicles by midweek.

Most of the cars are being taken to private towers' yards or large auto
salvage yards like Insurance Auto
Auctions in Livingston or Copart in Greenwell Springs.

Jeanene OaBrien, of Insurance Auto Auctions, said the company is
handling athousands of cars per day.a

A caras trip to one of these yards will be the first leg of its journey
to the compactor or the junkyard.

When a flood-damaged car arrives at Insurance Auto Auctionsa yard in
Livingston,
for example, the vehicle identification number is
registered with both
the
National Insurance Crime Bureau and the National Motor
Vehicle Title Information System.

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The state's Office of Motor Vehicles also will issue a certificate of
destruction for any
car that is
totaled because of a gubernatorially declared disaster. The certificate
is reported to those
same national databases as a "fatal brand," or one that should prevent
the car from being sold for
anything besides parts or scrap.

Insurance Auto Auctions sells only to licensed dealers, scrappers or
dismantlers, OaBrien
said. Members of the
public cannot purchase cars from the company's lots in Louisiana.

The process has improved since Hurricane Katrina, when thousands of
destroyed cars remained
under highway overpasses for months, said Jill Jarreau, of the OMV.

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The Louisiana Department of Insurance has issued a reminder to
insurance companies regarding the Certificate of Destruction title
requirements for flooded vehicles.

The department issued the bulletin following the federal declaration of
disaster due to the recent [18]massive flooding in Southeast
Louisiana.

A Certificate of Destruction is a type of title for water damaged
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The department said that when, as a result of an insurance settlement,
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On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Charles Engles < [36]cengles at cox.net>
wrote:

Dear Forum,

An insurance adjustor friend of a Pantera friend
told

him that this Pantera is flooded and has been totaled and is
available

with a salvage title in Baton Rouge.

It appears to be pretty stock. One picture I did
not

include shows the tub with a space saver spare plus the red inflator.

The pictures seem to show a high water mark above the window sills.

It seems that this car is *supposed* to be available

for online auction through: [1]http://www.copart.com I have tried

searching for it three times and can't find it on their site although

there are lots of flood damaged and other cars there, i.e. Ferraris
and

Maseratis, etc, in small numbers.

Supposedly the value on the car was said to be

"$10,000". However, all the cars on the site are up for bid with a

few "drivers" also available for a "buy it now" price. Finally, it

seems that you have to register and pay a fee before you can bid.

However, if you're keen for a "deal", then perhaps

calling the Baton Rouge Copart salvage yard might be advantageous.

Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

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   Assuming no major rust issues - a flood Pantera should be a no-brainer,
   at the right price, for many Pantera owners.  They take them all apart
   anyway - for fun - like Legos!  LOL

   Speaking of flood water, near me I have seen big blobs of fire ants
   floating along.  That's how they keep from drowning, so I've been told.
        ---BILL L
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:18 PM
   To: cengles at cox.net
   Cc: detomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flooded Pantera in Baton Rouge

   So they scrap cars even if they are classics?
   That is criminal if they scrap that Pantera.
   Ed
   On Sep 06, 2016, at 04:51 AM, cengles at cox.net wrote:
   Dear Jeff,
   I thought that perhaps you might reply and I thought
   that you would have a pretty good idea about what is going on with
   these flood damaged sports cars. I am glad that you're OK.
   Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:11 PM, JEFFREY COBB wrote:
   Chuck,
   This car may not be for sale in Louisiana though loopholes are
   everywhere.
   Louisiana law states this and even more since this is a disaster area.
   Basically when the insurance totaled paid off and flooded car is free
   of its
   owner,
   it must be scrapped.
   Very sad to leave from after I spent weekend transporting people from
   flood waters to going to
   Monterey week and then back to this. I have one customer who lost 12
   hot rods. I was lucky!
   Most dealers do not have used cars to sell and rent cars are coming in
   from five states away!
   Most did not have insurance because this never should ave happened at
   all!
   Two of my mechanics have been paid $22,000.each by FEMA within three
   days so far for the three feet
   of water in their homes.
   I felt wrong, guilty, confused, bad and sad leaving the next day but
   with my medical condition I could
   not go in butt deepwater
   full of feces, garbage and diesel/ gasoline fuels floating on top to
   help my friends.
   Enjoyed seeing and talking with you deTomaso guys and gals out in the
   dry world.
   Quack quack.
   Jeff Cobb
   Baton Rouge, La.
   225-907-4514
   Bordinat Mangusta
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   As of Wednesday, State Farm -- just one of the insurers that serves car
   owners in the area
   -- had received
   almost 18,000 auto claims related to flooding.
   That number was more than double the number of homeowner claims the
   company had received, spokesman
   Roszell Gadsen said.
   With such a large volume, towing companies have been stretched to the
   limit.
   aWeave been working around the clock,a said Ronnie
   Stewart,
   of Stewartas Towing in
   Livingston Parish.
   aItas been hectic and crazy,a Stewart said. He estimated that his
   company, a small one with four
   trucks, had towed more than
   300 cars since the waters receded.
   There were still plenty more left to be towed.
   aWe probably havenat put a dent in all the cars thatas flooded,a he
   said.
   In East Baton Rouge Parish, the woman who answered the phone at
   Roadrunner Towing said there were
   no words to describe how busy it had been. Roadrunner, which has
   contracts with several local police
   agencies, had towed more than 700 vehicles by midweek.
   Most of the cars are being taken to private towers' yards or large auto
   salvage yards like Insurance Auto
   Auctions in Livingston or Copart in Greenwell Springs.
   Jeanene OaBrien, of Insurance Auto Auctions, said the company is
   handling athousands of cars per day.a
   A caras trip to one of these yards will be the first leg of its journey
   to the compactor or the junkyard.
   When a flood-damaged car arrives at Insurance Auto Auctionsa yard in
   Livingston,
   for example, the vehicle identification number is
   registered with both
   the
   National Insurance Crime Bureau and the National Motor
   Vehicle Title Information System.
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   The state's Office of Motor Vehicles also will issue a certificate of
   destruction for any
   car that is
   totaled because of a gubernatorially declared disaster. The certificate
   is reported to those
   same national databases as a "fatal brand," or one that should prevent
   the car from being sold for
   anything besides parts or scrap.
   Insurance Auto Auctions sells only to licensed dealers, scrappers or
   dismantlers, OaBrien
   said. Members of the
   public cannot purchase cars from the company's lots in Louisiana.
   The process has improved since Hurricane Katrina, when thousands of
   destroyed cars remained
   under highway overpasses for months, said Jill Jarreau, of the OMV.
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   The Louisiana Department of Insurance has issued a reminder to
   insurance companies regarding the Certificate of Destruction title
   requirements for flooded vehicles.
   The department issued the bulletin following the federal declaration of
   disaster due to the recent [18]massive flooding in Southeast
   Louisiana.
   A Certificate of Destruction is a type of title for water damaged
   vehicle that has been declared a total loss.
   The department said that when, as a result of an insurance settlement,
   a motor vehicle is determined to be a total loss due to water damage,
   Louisiana law requires the insurance company acquiring ownership of the
   vehicle to send the certificate of title to the Office of Motor
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   On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Charles Engles < [36]cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:
   Dear Forum,
   An insurance adjustor friend of a Pantera friend
   told
   him that this Pantera is flooded and has been totaled and is
   available
   with a salvage title in Baton Rouge.
   It appears to be pretty stock. One picture I did
   not
   include shows the tub with a space saver spare plus the red inflator.
   The pictures seem to show a high water mark above the window sills.
   It seems that this car is *supposed* to be available
   for online auction through: [1]http://www.copart.com I have tried
   searching for it three times and can't find it on their site although
   there are lots of flood damaged and other cars there, i.e. Ferraris
   and
   Maseratis, etc, in small numbers.
   Supposedly the value on the car was said to be
   "$10,000". However, all the cars on the site are up for bid with a
   few "drivers" also available for a "buy it now" price. Finally, it
   seems that you have to register and pay a fee before you can bid.
   However, if you're keen for a "deal", then perhaps
   calling the Baton Rouge Copart salvage yard might be advantageous.
   Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
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