[DeTomaso] Flooded Pantera in Baton Rouge

cengles at cox.net cengles at cox.net
Tue Sep 6 07:50:54 EDT 2016


  Dear Jeff,

                 I thought that perhaps you might reply and I thought 
that you would have a pretty good idea about what is going on with these 
flood damaged sports cars.   I am glad that you're OK.

                          Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:11 PM, JEFFREY COBB wrote:

  Chuck,
This car may not be for sale in Louisiana though loopholes are 
everywhere.
Louisiana law states this and even more since this is a disaster area.
Basically when the insurance totaled paid off and flooded car is free of 
its owner, 
it must be scrapped.
Very sad to leave from after I spent weekend transporting people from 
flood waters to going to 
Monterey week and then back  to this. I have one customer who lost 12 
hot rods. I was lucky!
Most dealers do not have used cars to sell and rent cars are coming in 
from five states away!
Most did not have insurance because this never should ave happened at 
all!
Two of my mechanics have been paid $22,000.each by FEMA within three 
days so far for the three feet
of water in their homes.
I felt wrong, guilty, confused, bad and sad leaving the next day but 
with my medical condition I could not 
go in butt  deepwater full  of feces, garbage and diesel/ gasoline fuels 
floating on top to help my friends.

Enjoyed seeing and talking with you deTomaso guys and gals out in the 
dry world.
Quack quack.


Jeff Cobb

Baton Rouge, La.

225-907-4514

Bordinat Mangusta
-------------------------Newspaper article--------9/1/16-------------
As of Wednesday, State Farm -- just one of the insurers that serves car 
owners in the area -- 
had received almost 18,000 auto claims related to flooding.
That number was more than double the number of homeowner claims the 
company had received,                                      spokesman 
Roszell Gadsen said.
With such a large volume, towing companies have been stretched to the 
limit.
“We’ve been working around the clock,” said Ronnie Stewart, 
of Stewart’s Towing in Livingston Parish.
“It’s been hectic and crazy,” Stewart said. He estimated that his 
company, a small one with four trucks, 
had towed more than 300 cars since the waters receded.
There were still plenty more left to be towed.
“We probably haven’t put a dent in all the cars that’s flooded,” he 
said.
In East Baton Rouge Parish, the woman who answered the phone at 
Roadrunner Towing said there were 
no words to describe how busy it had been. Roadrunner, which has 
contracts with several local police 
agencies, had towed more than 700 vehicles by midweek.
Most of the cars are being taken to private towers' yards or large auto 
salvage yards like Insurance Auto 
Auctions in Livingston or Copart in Greenwell Springs.
Jeanene O’Brien, of Insurance Auto Auctions, said the company is 
handling “thousands of cars per day.”
A car’s trip to one of these yards will be the first leg of its journey 
to the compactor or the junkyard.
When a flood-damaged car arrives at Insurance Auto Auctions’ yard in 
Livingston, 
for example, the vehicle identification number is registered with both 
the 
National Insurance Crime Bureau and the National Motor Vehicle Title 
Information System.
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The state's Office of Motor Vehicles also will issue a certificate of 
destruction for any car 
that is totaled because of a gubernatorially declared disaster. The 
certificate is reported to those 
same national databases as a "fatal brand," or one that should prevent 
the car from being sold for 
anything besides parts or scrap. 
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Insurance Auto Auctions sells only to licensed dealers, scrappers or 
dismantlers, O’Brien said. 
Members of the public cannot purchase cars from the company's lots in 
Louisiana. 
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The process has improved since Hurricane Katrina, when thousands of 
destroyed cars remained 
under highway overpasses for months, said Jill Jarreau, of the OMV. 
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A Certificate of Destruction is a type of title for water damaged 
vehicle that has been declared a total loss.
The department said that when, as a result of an insurance settlement, a 
motor vehicle is determined to be a total loss due to water damage, 
Louisiana law requires the insurance company acquiring ownership of the 
vehicle to send the certificate of title to the Office of Motor Vehicles 
along with an application for a Certificate of Destruction.
The certificate and application must be sent to the OMV within 30 days 
from the settlement of the claim.
Source: Louisiana Department of Insurance
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On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Charles Engles < cengles at cox.net 
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   Dear Forum,

                    An insurance adjustor friend of a Pantera friend 
told
   him that this Pantera is flooded and has been totaled and is 
available
   with a salvage title in Baton Rouge.

                    It appears to be pretty stock.  One picture I did 
not
   include shows the tub with a space saver spare plus the red inflator.
   The pictures seem to show a high water mark above the window sills.

                    It seems that this car is *supposed* to be available
   for online auction through:   [1]www.copart.com        I have tried
   searching for it three times and can't find it on their site although
   there are lots of flood damaged and other cars there, i.e. Ferraris 
and
   Maseratis, etc, in small numbers.

                   Supposedly the value on the car was said to be
   "$10,000".    However, all the cars on the site are up for bid with a
   few "drivers"  also available for a "buy it now" price.   Finally, it
   seems that you have to register and pay a fee before you can bid.

                   However, if you're keen for a "deal", then perhaps
   calling the Baton Rouge Copart salvage yard might be advantageous.

                                   Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

References

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    Dear Jeff,

                   I thought that perhaps you might reply and I thought
   that you would have a pretty good idea about what is going on with
   these flood damaged sports cars.   I am glad that you're OK.

                            Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

   On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:11 PM, JEFFREY COBB wrote:

    Chuck,

   This car may not be for sale in Louisiana though loopholes are
   everywhere.

   Louisiana law states this and even more since this is a disaster area.

   Basically when the insurance totaled paid off and flooded car is free
   of its
   owner,
                  it must be scrapped.

   Very sad to leave from after I spent weekend transporting people from
   flood waters to going to
   Monterey week and then back  to this. I have one customer who lost 12
   hot rods. I was lucky!

   Most dealers do not have used cars to sell and rent cars are coming in
   from five states away!

   Most did not have insurance because this never should ave happened at
   all!

   Two of my mechanics have been paid $22,000.each by FEMA within three
   days so far for the three feet

   of water in their homes.

   I felt wrong, guilty, confused, bad and sad leaving the next day but
   with my medical condition I could
   not                                           go in butt  deepwater
   full  of feces, garbage and diesel/ gasoline fuels floating on top to
   help my friends.

   Enjoyed seeing and talking with you deTomaso guys and gals out in the
   dry world.

   Quack quack.

   Jeff Cobb

   Baton Rouge, La.

   225-907-4514

   Bordinat Mangusta

   -------------------------Newspaper article--------9/1/16-------------

   As of Wednesday, State Farm -- just one of the insurers that serves car
   owners in the area
   --                                                         had received
   almost 18,000 auto claims related to flooding.

   That number was more than double the number of homeowner claims the
   company had received,                                      spokesman
   Roszell Gadsen said.

   With such a large volume, towing companies have been stretched to the
   limit.

   aWeave been working around the clock,a said Ronnie
   Stewart,
                                                 of Stewartas Towing in
   Livingston Parish.

   aItas been hectic and crazy,a Stewart said. He estimated that his
   company, a small one with four
   trucks,                                           had towed more than
   300 cars since the waters receded.

   There were still plenty more left to be towed.

   aWe probably havenat put a dent in all the cars thatas flooded,a he
   said.

   In East Baton Rouge Parish, the woman who answered the phone at
   Roadrunner Towing said there were
   no words to describe how busy it had been. Roadrunner, which has
   contracts with several local police
   agencies, had towed more than 700 vehicles by midweek.

   Most of the cars are being taken to private towers' yards or large auto
   salvage yards like Insurance Auto
   Auctions in Livingston or Copart in Greenwell Springs.

   Jeanene OaBrien, of Insurance Auto Auctions, said the company is
   handling athousands of cars per day.a

   A caras trip to one of these yards will be the first leg of its journey
   to the compactor or the junkyard.

   When a flood-damaged car arrives at Insurance Auto Auctionsa yard in
   Livingston,
                  for example, the vehicle identification number is
   registered with both
   the
                 National Insurance Crime Bureau and the National Motor
   Vehicle Title Information System.

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   The state's Office of Motor Vehicles also will issue a certificate of
   destruction for any
   car                                                           that is
   totaled because of a gubernatorially declared disaster. The certificate
   is reported to those
   same national databases as a "fatal brand," or one that should prevent
   the car from being sold for
   anything besides parts or scrap.

   Insurance Auto Auctions sells only to licensed dealers, scrappers or
   dismantlers, OaBrien
   said.                                               Members of the
   public cannot purchase cars from the company's lots in Louisiana.

   The process has improved since Hurricane Katrina, when thousands of
   destroyed cars remained
   under highway overpasses for months, said Jill Jarreau, of the OMV.

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   Louisiana Reminds Insurers of Flooded Vehicle Requirements August 18,
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   The Louisiana Department of Insurance has issued a reminder to
   insurance companies regarding the Certificate of Destruction title
   requirements for flooded vehicles.

   The department issued the bulletin following the federal declaration of
   disaster due to the recent  [18]massive flooding in Southeast
   Louisiana.

   A Certificate of Destruction is a type of title for water damaged
   vehicle that has been declared a total loss.

   The department said that when, as a result of an insurance settlement,
   a motor vehicle is determined to be a total loss due to water damage,
   Louisiana law requires the insurance company acquiring ownership of the
   vehicle to send the certificate of title to the Office of Motor
   Vehicles along with an application for a Certificate of Destruction.

   The certificate and application must be sent to the OMV within 30 days
   from the settlement of the claim.

   Source: Louisiana Department of Insurance

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   On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Charles Engles < [36]cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:

     Dear Forum,

                      An insurance adjustor friend of a Pantera friend
   told

     him that this Pantera is flooded and has been totaled and is
   available

     with a salvage title in Baton Rouge.

                      It appears to be pretty stock.  One picture I did
   not

     include shows the tub with a space saver spare plus the red inflator.

     The pictures seem to show a high water mark above the window sills.

                      It seems that this car is *supposed* to be available

     for online auction through:   [1]www.copart.com        I have tried

     searching for it three times and can't find it on their site although

     there are lots of flood damaged and other cars there, i.e. Ferraris
   and

     Maseratis, etc, in small numbers.

                     Supposedly the value on the car was said to be

     "$10,000".    However, all the cars on the site are up for bid with a

     few "drivers"  also available for a "buy it now" price.   Finally, it

     seems that you have to register and pay a fee before you can bid.

                     However, if you're keen for a "deal", then perhaps

     calling the Baton Rouge Copart salvage yard might be advantageous.

                                     Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

   References

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