[DeTomaso] Flooded Pantera in Baton Rouge

JEFFREY COBB jeffcobb1 at me.com
Mon Sep 5 23:11:06 EDT 2016


Chuck,
This car may not be for sale in Louisiana though loopholes are everywhere.
Louisiana law states this and even more since this is a disaster area.
Basically when the insurance totaled paid off and flooded car is free of its owner,                                                                                it must be scrapped.
Very sad to leave from after I spent weekend transporting people from flood waters to going to                                               Monterey week and then back to this. I have one customer who lost 12 hot rods. I was lucky!
Most dealers do not have used cars to sell and rent cars are coming in from five states away!
Most did not have insurance because this never should ave happened at all!
Two of my mechanics have been paid $22,000.each by FEMA within three days so far for the three feet 
of water in their homes.
I felt wrong, guilty, confused, bad and sad leaving the next day but with my medical condition I could not                                           go in butt deepwater full of feces, garbage and diesel/gasoline fuels floating on top to help my friends.

Enjoyed seeing and talking with you deTomaso guys and gals out in the dry world.
Quack quack.

Jeff Cobb
Baton Rouge, La.
225-907-4514
Bordinat Mangusta
-------------------------Newspaper article--------9/1/16-------------
As of Wednesday, State Farm -- just one of the insurers that serves car owners in the area --                                                        had received almost 18,000 auto claims related to flooding. 

That number was more than double the number of homeowner claims the company had received,                                     spokesman Roszell Gadsen said.

With such a large volume, towing companies have been stretched to the limit.

“We’ve been working around the clock,” said Ronnie Stewart,                                                                                                             of Stewart’s Towing in Livingston Parish.

“It’s been hectic and crazy,” Stewart said. He estimated that his company, a small one with four trucks,                                           had towed more than 300 cars since the waters receded.

There were still plenty more left to be towed.

“We probably haven’t put a dent in all the cars that’s flooded,” he said.

In East Baton Rouge Parish, the woman who answered the phone at Roadrunner Towing said there were                                      no words to describe how busy it had been. Roadrunner, which has contracts with several local police                                  agencies, had towed more than 700 vehicles by midweek.

Most of the cars are being taken to private towers' yards or large auto salvage yards like Insurance Auto                                Auctions in Livingston or Copart in Greenwell Springs.

Jeanene O’Brien, of Insurance Auto Auctions, said the company is handling “thousands of cars per day.”

A car’s trip to one of these yards will be the first leg of its journey to the compactor or the junkyard.

When a flood-damaged car arrives at Insurance Auto Auctions’ yard in Livingston,                                                                           for example, the vehicle identification number is registered with both the                                                                                  National Insurance Crime Bureau and the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System.

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The state's Office of Motor Vehicles also will issue a certificate of destruction for any car                                                           that is totaled because of a gubernatorially declared disaster. The certificate is reported to those                                                  same national databases as a "fatal brand," or one that should prevent the car from being sold for                                            anything besides parts or scrap.

Insurance Auto Auctions sells only to licensed dealers, scrappers or dismantlers, O’Brien said.                                               Members of the public cannot purchase cars from the company's lots in Louisiana.

The process has improved since Hurricane Katrina, when thousands of destroyed cars remained                                                 under highway overpasses for months, said Jill Jarreau, of the OMV.

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The Louisiana Department of Insurance has issued a reminder to insurance companies regarding the Certificate of Destruction title requirements for flooded vehicles.

The department issued the bulletin following the federal declaration of disaster due to the recent massive flooding in Southeast Louisiana.



A Certificate of Destruction is a type of title for water damaged vehicle that has been declared a total loss.

The department said that when, as a result of an insurance settlement, a motor vehicle is determined to be a total loss due to water damage, Louisiana law requires the insurance company acquiring ownership of the vehicle to send the certificate of title to the Office of Motor Vehicles along with an application for a Certificate of Destruction.

The certificate and application must be sent to the OMV within 30 days from the settlement of the claim.

Source: Louisiana Department of Insurance

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On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

>   Dear Forum,
> 
>                    An insurance adjustor friend of a Pantera friend told
>   him that this Pantera is flooded and has been totaled and is available
>   with a salvage title in Baton Rouge.
> 
>                    It appears to be pretty stock.  One picture I did not
>   include shows the tub with a space saver spare plus the red inflator.
>   The pictures seem to show a high water mark above the window sills.
> 
>                    It seems that this car is *supposed* to be available
>   for online auction through:   [1]www.copart.com        I have tried
>   searching for it three times and can't find it on their site although
>   there are lots of flood damaged and other cars there, i.e. Ferraris and
>   Maseratis, etc, in small numbers.
> 
>                   Supposedly the value on the car was said to be
>   "$10,000".    However, all the cars on the site are up for bid with a
>   few "drivers"  also available for a "buy it now" price.   Finally, it
>   seems that you have to register and pay a fee before you can bid.
> 
>                   However, if you're keen for a "deal", then perhaps
>   calling the Baton Rouge Copart salvage yard might be advantageous.
> 
>                                   Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
> 
> References
> 
>   1. http://www.copart.com/
> <IMG_2523.JPG>
> 

-------------- next part --------------
   Chuck,
   This car may not be for sale in Louisiana though loopholes are
   everywhere.
   Louisiana law states this and even more since this is a disaster area.
   Basically when the insurance totaled paid off and flooded car is free
   of its owner,
                        it must be scrapped.
   Very sad to leave from after I spent weekend transporting people from
   flood waters to going to
   Monterey week and then back to this. I have one customer who lost 12
   hot rods. I was lucky!
   Most dealers do not have used cars to sell and rent cars are coming in
   from five states away!
   Most did not have insurance because this never should ave happened at
   all!
   Two of my mechanics have been paid $22,000.each by FEMA within three
   days so far for the three feet
   of water in their homes.
   I felt wrong, guilty, confused, bad and sad leaving the next day but
   with my medical condition I could not
           go in butt deepwater full of feces, garbage and diesel/gasoline
   fuels floating on top to help my friends.
   Enjoyed seeing and talking with you deTomaso guys and gals out in the
   dry world.
   Quack quack.
   Jeff Cobb

   Baton Rouge, La.

   225-907-4514

   Bordinat Mangusta

   -------------------------Newspaper article--------9/1/16-------------

   As of Wednesday, State Farm -- just one of the insurers that serves car
   owners in the area --
        had received almost 18,000 auto claims related to flooding.

   That number was more than double the number of homeowner claims the
   company had received,                                     spokesman
   Roszell Gadsen said.

   With such a large volume, towing companies have been stretched to the
   limit.

   aWeave been working around the clock,a said Ronnie Stewart,

                           of Stewartas Towing in Livingston Parish.

   aItas been hectic and crazy,a Stewart said. He estimated that his
   company, a small one with four trucks,
             had towed more than 300 cars since the waters receded.

   There were still plenty more left to be towed.

   aWe probably havenat put a dent in all the cars thatas flooded,a he
   said.

   In East Baton Rouge Parish, the woman who answered the phone at
   Roadrunner Towing said there were
   no words to describe how busy it had been. Roadrunner, which has
   contracts with several local police
   agencies, had towed more than 700 vehicles by midweek.

   Most of the cars are being taken to private towers' yards or large auto
   salvage yards like Insurance Auto
   Auctions in Livingston or Copart in Greenwell Springs.

   Jeanene OaBrien, of Insurance Auto Auctions, said the company is
   handling athousands of cars per day.a

   A caras trip to one of these yards will be the first leg of its journey
   to the compactor or the junkyard.

   When a flood-damaged car arrives at Insurance Auto Auctionsa yard in
   Livingston,
                 for example, the vehicle identification number is
   registered with both the
                                      National Insurance Crime Bureau and
   the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System.

RELATED

   [1]Why you may not need to file an insurance claim before applying for
   FEMA assistance

[2]Why you may not need to file an insurance claim before applying for FEMA
assistance

   People whose flood-damaged homes and vehicles weren't covered by flood
   insurance or with coma|


   The state's Office of Motor Vehicles also will issue a certificate of
   destruction for any car
             that is totaled because of a gubernatorially declared
   disaster. The certificate is reported to those
                            same national databases as a "fatal brand," or
   one that should prevent the car from being sold for
                          anything besides parts or scrap.

   Insurance Auto Auctions sells only to licensed dealers, scrappers or
   dismantlers, OaBrien said.
     Members of the public cannot purchase cars from the company's lots in
   Louisiana.

   The process has improved since Hurricane Katrina, when thousands of
   destroyed cars remained
   under highway overpasses for months, said Jill Jarreau, of the OMV.

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   The Louisiana Department of Insurance has issued a reminder to
   insurance companies regarding the Certificate of Destruction title
   requirements for flooded vehicles.

   The department issued the bulletin following the federal declaration of
   disaster due to the recent [20]massive flooding in Southeast Louisiana.

   A Certificate of Destruction is a type of title for water damaged
   vehicle that has been declared a total loss.

   The department said that when, as a result of an insurance settlement,
   a motor vehicle is determined to be a total loss due to water damage,
   Louisiana law requires the insurance company acquiring ownership of the
   vehicle to send the certificate of title to the Office of Motor
   Vehicles along with an application for a Certificate of Destruction.

   The certificate and application must be sent to the OMV within 30 days
   from the settlement of the claim.

   Source: Louisiana Department of Insurance

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   On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Charles Engles <[41]cengles at cox.net> wrote:

     Dear Forum,
                      An insurance adjustor friend of a Pantera friend
   told
     him that this Pantera is flooded and has been totaled and is
   available
     with a salvage title in Baton Rouge.
                      It appears to be pretty stock.  One picture I did
   not
     include shows the tub with a space saver spare plus the red inflator.
     The pictures seem to show a high water mark above the window sills.
                      It seems that this car is *supposed* to be available
     for online auction through:   [1]www.copart.com        I have tried
     searching for it three times and can't find it on their site although
     there are lots of flood damaged and other cars there, i.e. Ferraris
   and
     Maseratis, etc, in small numbers.
                     Supposedly the value on the car was said to be
     "$10,000".    However, all the cars on the site are up for bid with a
     few "drivers"  also available for a "buy it now" price.   Finally, it
     seems that you have to register and pay a fee before you can bid.
                     However, if you're keen for a "deal", then perhaps
     calling the Baton Rouge Copart salvage yard might be advantageous.
                                     Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
   References
     1. [42]http://www.copart.com/

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