[DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sun Oct 23 01:16:00 EDT 2016
Bud,
Good call. In fact I designed mine to do just that. The ZF mount attaches to the gearbox but just rests on the extended rails of the engine stand, so it can move fore and aft to enable easy mating of the engine and gearbox.
Cheers!
Mike
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On Oct 22, 2016, at 17:43, B Hower via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> I would like one similar to the Mike modified unit, but I would like
> the ZF support to be able to slide for and aft to aid mating ZF to
> 351C.
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
> ! )
> B
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> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
> Mike,
> I'm nearly positive that Stumpy probably has a Pantera owner near him
> and could probably source one for a week or so to mate with a 351C
> block
> to make the appropriate measurements. I'm guessing he probably fabs
> many of these when they are ordered, so I wouldn't put it past him to
> be
> willing to do this for the Pantera folks.
> All it takes is contacting him and seeing if he'd do it.
> For what it's worth, I used his standard set for my fully assembled
> engine and then attached the ZF to it and had no problems.
> This photo shows the new engine on the stands
> [1]http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gall
> ery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5514
> This photo shows the old engine and ZF after they came out of the
> Pantera. This was taken prior to the one above. You can see, if you
> zoom the photo, that the hoist is not holding up the assembly, and the
> tail of the ZF is not on he ground. Yes, the ZF was suspended in the
> air by nothing more than bolting to the engine, but the entire assembly
> did -not- tip over as some might expect.
> [2]http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gall
> ery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5505
> Still, having the extra length and support for the ZF would be
> preferred. Who would like to contact Stumpy?
> Asa Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
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> On 10/21/2016 6:17 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>> Bingo, that's it!
>>
>> You can see how incredibly simple it is. The normal cradle ends just
> about at the back of the block; I had him extend the legs to the rear.
> The vertical bits that attach to the gearbox were fabbed locally.
> Without having a gearbox handy, it would be difficult for stumpy to
> replicate it.
>>
>> For that matter, I just remembered that Lori's gearbox has an
> aftermarket side mount kit, so there's no guarantee the lateral spacing
> would even fit a gearbox with factory side mounts.
>>
>> I'm not planning on pulling my drivetrain out to test it. :)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 18:07, "Joseph F. Byrd,
> Jr."<[5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is this it Mike?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
>>> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 20:52 PM
>>> To: Mike Thomas
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>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> I posted a photo of the arrangement here the last time we discussed
> this.
>>> Unfortunately I'm not near my computer--maybe find it in the
> archives? Or
>>> somebody else saved it and can repost it?
>>>
>>> Larry Finch borrowed my rig for some time--Larry, do you have any
> photos?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 17:40, "Mike Thomas"<[7]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, never mind . . .
>>>> Send me some pics of the weldments, please?
>>>> The other Mike
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 6:52 AM
>>>> To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [10]rob at dumoulins.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
>>>>
>>>> Rob,
>>>>
>>>> I have two cradles (one for a 427) from Stumpy's Fabworks.
>>>> (Www.stumpysfabworks.com) and they are terrific.
>>>>
>>>> They are offered in both 'normal' and 'wide' configurations. I
> prefer
>>>> the wide ones because they offer much greater stability. I ordered
> my
>>>> 351C stand extra-length so it could safely support an engine/ZF
> combo.
>>>> My stepson welded up rear mounts for the gearbox that bolt to the
>>>> gearbox ears and rest on the rails of the Stumpy's cradle.
>>>>
>>>> Good stuff. Hope I never need to use it again. :)
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Rob Dumoulin<[11]rob at dumoulins.net>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the market for a floor-level (not the tall kind to assemble
> an
>>>> engine) rolling engine stand for a spare fully assembled Cleveland
>>>> engine.A I found this one from Mansion Tools.A They seem to have
> the
>>>> most reasonable shipping costs on this exact item.
> [1][12]http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks
> -au
>>>> t
> -ec1000-f-automotive-hoist-stands-jack.html?channelid=GoogleAdwords&gc
>>>> l
>>>> id=CLWitdiB7M8CFU86gQoduwMEBA
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have this one or recommend a better choice for the
> money?
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> 1.
> [13]http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-au
> t-e
>>>> c1000-
> f-automotive-hoist-stands-jack.html?channelid=GoogleAdwords&gclid=CLWi
>>>> tdiB7M
>>>> 8CFU86gQoduwMEBA
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> 1. http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5514
> 2. http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5505
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> 12. http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-au
> 13. http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-aut-e
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