[DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
B Hower
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Sat Oct 22 20:43:39 EDT 2016
I would like one similar to the Mike modified unit, but I would like the ZF support to be able to slide for and aft to aid mating ZF to 351C.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
B
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
Mike,
I'm nearly positive that Stumpy probably has a Pantera owner near him
and could probably source one for a week or so to mate with a 351C block
to make the appropriate measurements. I'm guessing he probably fabs
many of these when they are ordered, so I wouldn't put it past him to be
willing to do this for the Pantera folks.
All it takes is contacting him and seeing if he'd do it.
For what it's worth, I used his standard set for my fully assembled
engine and then attached the ZF to it and had no problems.
This photo shows the new engine on the stands
http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5514
This photo shows the old engine and ZF after they came out of the
Pantera. This was taken prior to the one above. You can see, if you
zoom the photo, that the hoist is not holding up the assembly, and the
tail of the ZF is not on he ground. Yes, the ZF was suspended in the
air by nothing more than bolting to the engine, but the entire assembly
did -not- tip over as some might expect.
http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5505
Still, having the extra length and support for the ZF would be
preferred. Who would like to contact Stumpy?
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
http://w7tsc.org
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 10/21/2016 6:17 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
> Bingo, that's it!
>
> You can see how incredibly simple it is. The normal cradle ends just about at the back of the block; I had him extend the legs to the rear. The vertical bits that attach to the gearbox were fabbed locally. Without having a gearbox handy, it would be difficult for stumpy to replicate it.
>
> For that matter, I just remembered that Lori's gearbox has an aftermarket side mount kit, so there's no guarantee the lateral spacing would even fit a gearbox with factory side mounts.
>
> I'm not planning on pulling my drivetrain out to test it. :)
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 18:07, "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."<byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this it Mike?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 20:52 PM
>> To: Mike Thomas
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I posted a photo of the arrangement here the last time we discussed this.
>> Unfortunately I'm not near my computer--maybe find it in the archives? Or
>> somebody else saved it and can repost it?
>>
>> Larry Finch borrowed my rig for some time--Larry, do you have any photos?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 17:40, "Mike Thomas"<mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, never mind . . .
>>> Send me some pics of the weldments, please?
>>> The other Mike
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; rob at dumoulins.net
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
>>>
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> I have two cradles (one for a 427) from Stumpy's Fabworks.
>>> (Www.stumpysfabworks.com) and they are terrific.
>>>
>>> They are offered in both 'normal' and 'wide' configurations. I prefer
>>> the wide ones because they offer much greater stability. I ordered my
>>> 351C stand extra-length so it could safely support an engine/ZF combo.
>>> My stepson welded up rear mounts for the gearbox that bolt to the
>>> gearbox ears and rest on the rails of the Stumpy's cradle.
>>>
>>> Good stuff. Hope I never need to use it again. :)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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>>> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Rob Dumoulin<rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in the market for a floor-level (not the tall kind to assemble an
>>> engine) rolling engine stand for a spare fully assembled Cleveland
>>> engine.A I found this one from Mansion Tools.A They seem to have the
>>> most reasonable shipping costs on this exact item.
>>>
>>> [1]http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-au
>>> t
>>> -ec1000-f-automotive-hoist-stands-jack.html?channelid=GoogleAdwords&gc
>>> l
>>> id=CLWitdiB7M8CFU86gQoduwMEBA
>>>
>>> Does anybody have this one or recommend a better choice for the money?
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-aut-e
>>> c1000-
>>> f-automotive-hoist-stands-jack.html?channelid=GoogleAdwords&gclid=CLWi
>>> tdiB7M
>>> 8CFU86gQoduwMEBA
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I would like one similar to the Mike modified unit, but I would like
the ZF support to be able to slide for and aft to aid mating ZF to
351C.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
B
__________________________________________________________________
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
Mike,
I'm nearly positive that Stumpy probably has a Pantera owner near him
and could probably source one for a week or so to mate with a 351C
block
to make the appropriate measurements. I'm guessing he probably fabs
many of these when they are ordered, so I wouldn't put it past him to
be
willing to do this for the Pantera folks.
All it takes is contacting him and seeing if he'd do it.
For what it's worth, I used his standard set for my fully assembled
engine and then attached the ZF to it and had no problems.
This photo shows the new engine on the stands
[1]http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gall
ery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5514
This photo shows the old engine and ZF after they came out of the
Pantera. This was taken prior to the one above. You can see, if you
zoom the photo, that the hoist is not holding up the assembly, and the
tail of the ZF is not on he ground. Yes, the ZF was suspended in the
air by nothing more than bolting to the engine, but the entire assembly
did -not- tip over as some might expect.
[2]http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gall
ery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5505
Still, having the extra length and support for the ZF would be
preferred. Who would like to contact Stumpy?
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[3]http://w7tsc.org
[4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 10/21/2016 6:17 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
> Bingo, that's it!
>
> You can see how incredibly simple it is. The normal cradle ends just
about at the back of the block; I had him extend the legs to the rear.
The vertical bits that attach to the gearbox were fabbed locally.
Without having a gearbox handy, it would be difficult for stumpy to
replicate it.
>
> For that matter, I just remembered that Lori's gearbox has an
aftermarket side mount kit, so there's no guarantee the lateral spacing
would even fit a gearbox with factory side mounts.
>
> I'm not planning on pulling my drivetrain out to test it. :)
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 18:07, "Joseph F. Byrd,
Jr."<[5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this it Mike?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
>> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 20:52 PM
>> To: Mike Thomas
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I posted a photo of the arrangement here the last time we discussed
this.
>> Unfortunately I'm not near my computer--maybe find it in the
archives? Or
>> somebody else saved it and can repost it?
>>
>> Larry Finch borrowed my rig for some time--Larry, do you have any
photos?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 17:40, "Mike Thomas"<[7]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
wrote:
>>
>>> OK, never mind . . .
>>> Send me some pics of the weldments, please?
>>> The other Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 6:52 AM
>>> To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; [10]rob at dumoulins.net
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland Rolling engine stand
>>>
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> I have two cradles (one for a 427) from Stumpy's Fabworks.
>>> (Www.stumpysfabworks.com) and they are terrific.
>>>
>>> They are offered in both 'normal' and 'wide' configurations. I
prefer
>>> the wide ones because they offer much greater stability. I ordered
my
>>> 351C stand extra-length so it could safely support an engine/ZF
combo.
>>> My stepson welded up rear mounts for the gearbox that bolt to the
>>> gearbox ears and rest on the rails of the Stumpy's cradle.
>>>
>>> Good stuff. Hope I never need to use it again. :)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>>> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Rob Dumoulin<[11]rob at dumoulins.net>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in the market for a floor-level (not the tall kind to assemble
an
>>> engine) rolling engine stand for a spare fully assembled Cleveland
>>> engine.A I found this one from Mansion Tools.A They seem to have
the
>>> most reasonable shipping costs on this exact item.
>>>
>>>
[1][12]http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks
-au
>>> t
>>>
-ec1000-f-automotive-hoist-stands-jack.html?channelid=GoogleAdwords&gc
>>> l
>>> id=CLWitdiB7M8CFU86gQoduwMEBA
>>>
>>> Does anybody have this one or recommend a better choice for the
money?
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
[13]http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-au
t-e
>>> c1000-
>>>
f-automotive-hoist-stands-jack.html?channelid=GoogleAdwords&gclid=CLWi
>>> tdiB7M
>>> 8CFU86gQoduwMEBA
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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References
1. http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5514
2. http://teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=5505
3. http://w7tsc.org/
4. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
5. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
7. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
10. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
11. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
12. http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-au
13. http://www.mansiontools.com/engine-cradle-for-all-v8-ford-blocks-aut-e
14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
16. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
18. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
19. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
22. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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