[DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
Charles McCall
charlesmccall at gmail.com
Thu Oct 13 03:43:53 EDT 2016
Interesting to have a real data point. I wonder how many cars could fit in
a container? 6? That's $800/car to New Zealand, which is really far. The
next mega-meeting in New Zealand?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> Just this year. Container. Shumacher Logistics and also Kiwi Shipping same
> price. I shipped a whole 40' high cube for $4900. But a car alone is $1700.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:49, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ed - what year was that?
>
> RORO or container?
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> It cost $1700 to ship from LA to New Zealand.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>
>> > On Oct 12, 2016, at 02:13, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Bill (and others)
>> >
>> > The idea may not be as far-fetched as you may think. Granted, shipping
>> > a car across the ocean isn't exactly cheap, but it may not be as
>> > expensive as you may think. I moved to France in the 90's and didn't
>> > even considering bringing my Pantera with me at the time because I
>> > thought it would be prohibitively expensive. On a whim I investigated,
>> > and cutting to the chase, $750 later my car was sitting on a dock in
>> Le
>> > Havre, France. This was the complete, door-to-door cost from NY to Le
>> > Havre.
>> >
>> >
>> > Later, in 2004 or so, I sent the car from Le Havre to Long Beach, CA
>> > for just about $1000 even.
>> >
>> >
>> > Granted this was a few years ago, but I don't think anyone has
>> > seriously investigated costs since then.. Maybe the cost would be even
>> > less if several cars were put in a single container? Dunno, but
>> > someone should at least take the time to ask the question. You cannot
>> > believe how fantastic the experience is to cruise around Europe in
>> your
>> > own Pantera... I'd be happy to help from this end
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Bill Lewis [mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com]
>> > Sent: miercoles, 12 de octubre de 2016 2:54
>> > To: Charles McCall
>> > Cc: detomaso detomaso
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >
>> >
>> > Charles, I have suggested in the past to have a "Super Rally" every so
>> > often. Set a date several years in advance so everyone could save
>> > their money, and the host chapter would have time to get organized.
>> > My suggestion was actually aimed at the East Coast (but we know how
>> > that turned into a fiasco), so it could be somewhere in Europe for the
>> > first time around. All that I hear about the Pantera folks going to
>> Le
>> > Mans is fantastic tales. ---BILL Lewis
>> >
>> > ____________________________________________________________
>> _________
>> >
>> > From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
>> behalf
>> > of Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:58 PM
>> > To: marshall smith
>> > Cc: detomaso detomaso
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >
>> >
>> > Put your cars in a container and send them to Europe! What a road
>> trip!
>> > (am I helping?)
>> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:57 PM, marshall smith <
>> > [3]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >> I LOVED Reno!! That town rolled out the welcome mat to all of us!
>> > Let's go
>> >> again!!!
>> >>
>> >> Marshall Smith
>> >> --------------------------------------------
>> >> On Tue, 10/11/16, [4]bill at incendium.com <[5]bill at incendium.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >> To: "Larry Stock" <[6]larrys at panteraparts.com>, "Effie Richards" <
>> >> [7]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>, "'Julian Kift'"
>> > <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> >> Cc: "'detomaso detomaso'" <[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
>> >>
>> >> RENO , RENO, RENO
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Bill Moore
>> >>
>> >> Calgary
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original message --------
>> >> From: Larry Stock <[10]larrys at panteraparts.com>
>> >> Date: 2016-10-11 1:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> >> To: Effie Richards <[11]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>,
>> >> 'Julian Kift'
>> >> <[12]julian_kift at hotmail.com>,
>> >> [13]bill at incendium.com
>> >> Cc: 'detomaso detomaso' <[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017
>> >> POCA Fun Rally
>> >>
>> >> Yeah Yeah Yeah, You just can^1t get
>> >> anywhere without a traffic snarl
>> >> and
>> >> waiting in a line.
>> >> On 10/11/16, 11:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
>> >> of Effie Richards"
>> >> <[15]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> >> on behalf of
>> >> [16]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Of course any season or month is good
>> >> in San Diego!... Got you!
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Julian Kift [[17]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:06
>> >> AM
>> >>> To: [18]bill at incendium.com
>> >>> Cc: Effie Richards; detomaso detomaso
>> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re:
>> >> 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >>>
>> >>> A lot depends on location selected,
>> >> Las Vegas is a bear in May or
>> >> June,
>> >>> other venues e.g. Reno have a good
>> >> chance of snow prior to June. Then
>> >>> there
>> >>> is the whole accessibility for driving
>> >> with weather.
>> >>>
>> >>> I would recommend dates be left open
>> >> for the proposing chapter to
>> >> select,
>> >>> that way they can also avoid (or take
>> >> advantage of) any conflicts to
>> >> other
>> >>> local events.
>> >>>
>> >>> Julian
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:57 AM, "[19]bill at incendium.com"
>> >> <[20]bill at incendium.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> How about mid
>> >> May or even June.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bill Moore
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Calgary
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --------
>> >> Original message --------
>> >>>> From: Effie
>> >> Richards <[21]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
>> >>>> Date: 2016-10-11
>> >> 11:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
>> >>>> To: detomaso
>> >> detomaso <[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> >>>> Subject:
>> >> [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original
>> >> Message-----
>> >>>> From: [23]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>> >> [[24]mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com]
>> >>>> On Behalf Of
>> >> Effie Richards
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday,
>> >> October 11, 2016 10:05 AM
>> >>>> To: 'Ed Mendez';
>> >> 'marshall smith'
>> >>>> Cc: 'De Tomaso
>> >> List'; 'Jack DeRyke'; 'Detomaso at poca';
>> >> 'Leslie
>> >> Gray';
>> >>>> 'Mike Haney';
>> >> 'Judy McCartney'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Scott
>> >>>> Couchman';
>> >> 'Josette D'Orazio'; 'Reno-Tahoe Panteras'; 'San Diego
>> >>>> Panteras'
>> >>>> Subject: RE:
>> >> [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >>>> Here I come
>> >> again!....
>> >>>> Ed, I hope you
>> >> are not expecting Marshall to put a bid in... not
>> >>>> after
>> >>>> our experience
>> >> of 2014!
>> >>>> By the way, no
>> >> one from POCA had the curtesy of responding to my
>> >>>> question "why
>> >> POCA did not support SDP club hosting the 2014 rally
>> >> and
>> >>>> instead,
>> >> sabotaged our efforts and totally ignored our pleas for
>> >>>> support"?
>> >> Someone or someones were behind this "coup" and no
>> >> one
>> >>>> will ever have
>> >> the nerve or class to even apologize without
>> >> admitting
>> >>>> guilt, just like
>> >> our politicians!
>> >>>> I really don't
>> >> expect to get an answer from the POCA board, but I
>> >> do
>> >>>> want everyone on
>> >> the list to know, although our club worked twice
>> >> x
>> >>>> twice as hard to
>> >> successfully host such an awesome event, we had
>> >> to
>> >>>> double and
>> >> triple our work in order to compensate for the luck of
>> >>>> support from
>> >> POCA.
>> >>>> Our love and
>> >> passion for the car may take over our brain and lead
>> >> us
>> >>>> back to another
>> >> rally, but believe me, we know who our friends are
>> >>>> these days.
>> >>>> -----Original
>> >> Message-----
>> >>>> From: [25]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>> >> [[26]mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com]
>> >>>> On Behalf Of Ed
>> >> Mendez
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday,
>> >> October 11, 2016 9:46 AM
>> >>>> To: marshall
>> >> smith
>> >>>> Cc: De Tomaso
>> >> List; Jack DeRyke; Detomaso at poca; Leslie
>> >> Gray; Mike
>> >>>> Haney; Judy
>> >> McCartney; Bob Reid; Bob Reid; Scott Couchman; Josette
>> >>>> D'Orazio;
>> >> Reno-Tahoe Panteras; San Diego Panteras
>> >>>> Subject: [SDP]
>> >> Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> >>>> We are shooting
>> >> for April 26-30th, 2017
>> >>>> All chapters
>> >> should put in their bids to host as a location has
>> >> not
>> >>>> been agreed upon
>> >> yet.
>> >>>> I am even
>> >> working on alternatives.
>> >>>> Ed
>> >>>> Sent from my
>> >> iPhone 6 Plus
>> >>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:37,
>> >> marshall smith
>> >>>> <[27]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> To POCA Board of Directors,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is there any information on
>> >> the dates and location of the POCA Fun
>> >>>> Rally in 2017?
>> >>>>> I heard a rumor that we would
>> >> be heading back to Las Vegas and the
>> >>>> Plaza Hotel. Is
>> >> that correct?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Marshall Smith
>> >>>>> San Diego Panteras
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Interesting to have a real data point. I wonder how many cars could fit
in a container? 6? That's $800/car to New Zealand, which is really far.
The next mega-meeting in New Zealand?A
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
wrote:
Just this year. Container. Shumacher Logistics and also Kiwi Shipping
same price. I shipped a whole 40' high cube for $4900. But a car alone
is $1700.
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:49, Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:
Ed - what year was that?A
RORO or container?A
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Ed Mendez <[3]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
It cost $1700 to ship from LA to New Zealand.
Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 02:13, Charles McCall
<[4]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>A A Bill (and others)
>
>A A The idea may not be as far-fetched as you may think. Granted,
shipping
>A A a car across the ocean isn't exactly cheap, but it may not be
as
>A A expensive as you may think. I moved to France in the 90's and
didn't
>A A even considering bringing my Pantera with me at the time
because I
>A A thought it would be prohibitively expensive. On a whim I
investigated,
>A A and cutting to the chase, $750 later my car was sitting on a
dock in Le
>A A Havre, France. This was the complete, door-to-door cost from
NY to Le
>A A Havre.
>
>
>A A Later, in 2004 or so, I sent the car from Le Havre to Long
Beach, CA
>A A for just about $1000 even.
>
>
>A A Granted this was a few years ago, but I don't think anyone has
>A A seriously investigated costs since then.. Maybe the cost would
be even
>A A less if severalA cars were put in a single container? Dunno,
but
>A A someone should at least take the time to ask the question. You
cannot
>A A believe how fantastic the experience is to cruise around
Europe in your
>A A own Pantera... I'd be happy to help from this end
>
>
>A A From: Bill Lewis [mailto:[5]lotus0005 at hotmail.com]
>A A Sent: miercoles, 12 de octubre de 2016 2:54
>A A To: Charles McCall
>A A Cc: detomaso detomaso
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>
>
>A A Charles, I have suggested in the past to have a "Super Rally"
every so
>A A often.A Set a date several years in advance so everyone could
save
>A A their money, and theA host chapter would have time to get
organized.
>A A My suggestion was actually aimed at the East Coast (but we
know how
>A A that turned into a fiasco), so it could be somewhere in Europe
for the
>A A first time around.A All that I hear about the Pantera folks
going to Le
>A A Mans is fantastic tales.A A ---BILL Lewis
>
>A A ____________________________________________________________
_________
>
>A A From: DeTomaso <[1][6]detomaso-bounces at server.de
tomasolist.com> on behalf
>A A of Charles McCall <[2][7]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>A A Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:58 PM
>A A To: marshall smith
>A A Cc: detomaso detomaso
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>
>
>A A Put your cars in a container and send them to Europe! What a
road trip!
>A A (am I helping?)
>A A On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:57 PM, marshall smith <
>A A [3][8]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I LOVED Reno!! That town rolled out the welcome mat to all of us!
>A A Let's go
>> again!!!
>>
>> Marshall Smith
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Tue, 10/11/16, [4][9]bill at incendium.com
<[5][10]bill at incendium.com>
>A A wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> To: "Larry Stock" <[6][11]larrys at panteraparts.com>, "Effie
Richards" <
>> [7][12]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>, "'Julian Kift'"
>A A <[8][13]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: "'detomaso detomaso'" <[9][14]detomaso at server.detomasoli
st.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
>>
>>A A RENO , RENO, RENO
>>
>>A A Cheers
>>
>>A A Bill Moore
>>
>>A A Calgary
>>
>>A A -------- Original message --------
>>A A From: Larry Stock <[10][15]larrys at panteraparts.com>
>>A A Date: 2016-10-11 1:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>A A To: Effie Richards <[11][16]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>,
>> 'Julian Kift'
>>A A <[12][17]julian_kift at hotmail.com>,
>> [13][18]bill at incendium.com
>>A A Cc: 'detomaso detomaso' <[14][19]detomaso at server.detomasol
ist.com>
>>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017
>> POCA Fun Rally
>>
>>A A Yeah Yeah Yeah, You just can^1t get
>> anywhere without a traffic snarl
>>A A and
>>A A waiting in a line.
>>A A On 10/11/16, 11:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
>> of Effie Richards"
>>A A <[15][20]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> on behalf of
>>A A [16][21]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Of course any season or month is good
>> in San Diego!...A A Got you!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Julian Kift [[17]mailto:[22]julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:06
>> AM
>>> To: [18][23]bill at incendium.com
>>> Cc: Effie Richards; detomaso detomaso
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re:
>> 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>
>>> A lot depends on location selected,
>> Las Vegas is a bear in May or
>>A A June,
>>> other venues e.g. Reno have a good
>> chance of snow prior to June. Then
>>> there
>>> is the whole accessibility for driving
>> with weather.
>>>
>>> I would recommend dates be left open
>> for the proposing chapter to
>>A A select,
>>> that way they can also avoid (or take
>> advantage of) any conflicts to
>>A A other
>>> local events.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:57 AM, "[19][24]bill at incendium.com"
>>A A <[20][25]bill at incendium.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A How about mid
>> May or even June.
>>>>
>>>>A Cheers
>>>>
>>>>A Bill Moore
>>>>
>>>>A Calgary
>>>>
>>>>A --------
>> Original message --------
>>>>A From: Effie
>> Richards <[21][26]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
>>>>A Date: 2016-10-11
>> 11:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>>>A To: detomaso
>> detomaso <[22][27]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>>A Subject:
>> [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>>
>>>>A -----Original
>> Message-----
>>>>A From: [23][28]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>A A [[24]mailto:[29]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com]
>>>>A On Behalf Of
>> Effie Richards
>>>>A Sent: Tuesday,
>> October 11, 2016 10:05 AM
>>>>A To: 'Ed Mendez';
>> 'marshall smith'
>>>>A Cc: 'De Tomaso
>> List'; 'Jack DeRyke'; 'Detomaso at poca';
>> 'Leslie
>>A A Gray';
>>>>A 'Mike Haney';
>> 'Judy McCartney'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Scott
>>>>A Couchman';
>> 'Josette D'Orazio'; 'Reno-Tahoe Panteras'; 'San Diego
>>>>A Panteras'
>>>>A Subject: RE:
>> [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>>A Here I come
>> again!....
>>>>A Ed, I hope you
>> are not expecting Marshall to put a bid in...A not
>>>> after
>>>>A our experience
>> of 2014!
>>>>A By the way, no
>> one from POCA had the curtesy of responding to my
>>>>A question "why
>> POCA did not support SDP club hosting the 2014 rally
>>A A and
>>>>A instead,
>> sabotaged our efforts and totally ignored our pleas for
>>>>A support"?
>>A A Someone or someones were behind this "coup" and no
>>A A one
>>>>A will ever have
>> the nerve or class to even apologize without
>>A A admitting
>>>>A guilt, just like
>> our politicians!
>>>>A I really don't
>> expect to get an answer from the POCA board, but I
>>A A do
>>>>A want everyone on
>> the list to know, although our club worked twice
>>A A x
>>>>A twice as hard to
>> successfully host such an awesome event, we had
>>A A to
>>>>A double and
>> triple our work in order to compensate for the luck of
>>>>A support from
>> POCA.
>>>>A Our love and
>> passion for the car may take over our brain and lead
>>A A us
>>>>A back to another
>> rally, but believe me, we know who our friends are
>>>>A these days.
>>>>A -----Original
>> Message-----
>>>>A From: [25][30]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>A A [[26]mailto:[31]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com]
>>>>A On Behalf Of Ed
>> Mendez
>>>>A Sent: Tuesday,
>> October 11, 2016 9:46 AM
>>>>A To: marshall
>> smith
>>>>A Cc: De Tomaso
>> List; Jack DeRyke; Detomaso at poca; Leslie
>> Gray; Mike
>>>>A Haney; Judy
>> McCartney; Bob Reid; Bob Reid; Scott Couchman; Josette
>>>>A D'Orazio;
>> Reno-Tahoe Panteras; San Diego Panteras
>>>>A Subject: [SDP]
>> Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>>A We are shooting
>> for April 26-30th, 2017
>>>>A All chapters
>> should put in their bids to host as a location has
>>A A not
>>>>A been agreed upon
>> yet.
>>>>A I am even
>> working on alternatives.
>>>>A Ed
>>>>A Sent from my
>> iPhone 6 Plus
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:37,
>> marshall smith
>>>>A <[27][32]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To POCA Board of Directors,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any information on
>> the dates and location of the POCA Fun
>>>>A Rally in 2017?
>>>>> I heard a rumor that we would
>> be heading back to Las Vegas and the
>>>>A Plaza Hotel. Is
>> that correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Marshall Smith
>>>>> San Diego Panteras
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