[DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally

Ed Mendez edducati at mac.com
Wed Oct 12 14:44:17 EDT 2016


It cost $1700 to ship from LA to New Zealand.

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 02:13, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   Bill (and others)
> 
>   The idea may not be as far-fetched as you may think. Granted, shipping
>   a car across the ocean isn't exactly cheap, but it may not be as
>   expensive as you may think. I moved to France in the 90's and didn't
>   even considering bringing my Pantera with me at the time because I
>   thought it would be prohibitively expensive. On a whim I investigated,
>   and cutting to the chase, $750 later my car was sitting on a dock in Le
>   Havre, France. This was the complete, door-to-door cost from NY to Le
>   Havre.
> 
> 
>   Later, in 2004 or so, I sent the car from Le Havre to Long Beach, CA
>   for just about $1000 even.
> 
> 
>   Granted this was a few years ago, but I don't think anyone has
>   seriously investigated costs since then.. Maybe the cost would be even
>   less if several  cars were put in a single container? Dunno, but
>   someone should at least take the time to ask the question. You cannot
>   believe how fantastic the experience is to cruise around Europe in your
>   own Pantera... I'd be happy to help from this end
> 
> 
>   From: Bill Lewis [mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com]
>   Sent: miercoles, 12 de octubre de 2016 2:54
>   To: Charles McCall
>   Cc: detomaso detomaso
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
> 
> 
>   Charles, I have suggested in the past to have a "Super Rally" every so
>   often.  Set a date several years in advance so everyone could save
>   their money, and the  host chapter would have time to get organized.
>   My suggestion was actually aimed at the East Coast (but we know how
>   that turned into a fiasco), so it could be somewhere in Europe for the
>   first time around.  All that I hear about the Pantera folks going to Le
>   Mans is fantastic tales.   ---BILL Lewis
> 
>    _____________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>   of Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:58 PM
>   To: marshall smith
>   Cc: detomaso detomaso
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
> 
> 
>   Put your cars in a container and send them to Europe! What a road trip!
>   (am I helping?)
>   On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:57 PM, marshall smith <
>   [3]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I LOVED Reno!! That town rolled out the welcome mat to all of us!
>   Let's go
>> again!!!
>> 
>> Marshall Smith
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Tue, 10/11/16, [4]bill at incendium.com <[5]bill at incendium.com>
>   wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>> To: "Larry Stock" <[6]larrys at panteraparts.com>, "Effie Richards" <
>> [7]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>, "'Julian Kift'"
>   <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: "'detomaso detomaso'" <[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
>> 
>>    RENO , RENO, RENO
>> 
>>    Cheers
>> 
>>    Bill Moore
>> 
>>    Calgary
>> 
>>    -------- Original message --------
>>    From: Larry Stock <[10]larrys at panteraparts.com>
>>    Date: 2016-10-11 1:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>    To: Effie Richards <[11]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>,
>> 'Julian Kift'
>>    <[12]julian_kift at hotmail.com>,
>> [13]bill at incendium.com
>>    Cc: 'detomaso detomaso' <[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017
>> POCA Fun Rally
>> 
>>    Yeah Yeah Yeah, You just can^1t get
>> anywhere without a traffic snarl
>>    and
>>    waiting in a line.
>>    On 10/11/16, 11:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
>> of Effie Richards"
>>    <[15]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> on behalf of
>>    [16]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Of course any season or month is good
>> in San Diego!...   Got you!
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Julian Kift [[17]mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:06
>> AM
>>> To: [18]bill at incendium.com
>>> Cc: Effie Richards; detomaso detomaso
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re:
>> 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>> 
>>> A lot depends on location selected,
>> Las Vegas is a bear in May or
>>    June,
>>> other venues e.g. Reno have a good
>> chance of snow prior to June. Then
>>> there
>>> is the whole accessibility for driving
>> with weather.
>>> 
>>> I would recommend dates be left open
>> for the proposing chapter to
>>    select,
>>> that way they can also avoid (or take
>> advantage of) any conflicts to
>>    other
>>> local events.
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:57 AM, "[19]bill at incendium.com"
>>    <[20]bill at incendium.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  How about mid
>> May or even June.
>>>> 
>>>>  Cheers
>>>> 
>>>>  Bill Moore
>>>> 
>>>>  Calgary
>>>> 
>>>>  --------
>> Original message --------
>>>>  From: Effie
>> Richards <[21]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
>>>>  Date: 2016-10-11
>> 11:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>>>  To: detomaso
>> detomaso <[22]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>>  Subject:
>> [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>> 
>>>>  -----Original
>> Message-----
>>>>  From: [23]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>    [[24]mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com]
>>>>  On Behalf Of
>> Effie Richards
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday,
>> October 11, 2016 10:05 AM
>>>>  To: 'Ed Mendez';
>> 'marshall smith'
>>>>  Cc: 'De Tomaso
>> List'; 'Jack DeRyke'; 'Detomaso at poca';
>> 'Leslie
>>    Gray';
>>>>  'Mike Haney';
>> 'Judy McCartney'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Scott
>>>>  Couchman';
>> 'Josette D'Orazio'; 'Reno-Tahoe Panteras'; 'San Diego
>>>>  Panteras'
>>>>  Subject: RE:
>> [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>>  Here I come
>> again!....
>>>>  Ed, I hope you
>> are not expecting Marshall to put a bid in...  not
>>>> after
>>>>  our experience
>> of 2014!
>>>>  By the way, no
>> one from POCA had the curtesy of responding to my
>>>>  question "why
>> POCA did not support SDP club hosting the 2014 rally
>>    and
>>>>  instead,
>> sabotaged our efforts and totally ignored our pleas for
>>>>  support"?
>>   Someone or someones were behind this "coup" and no
>>    one
>>>>  will ever have
>> the nerve or class to even apologize without
>>    admitting
>>>>  guilt, just like
>> our politicians!
>>>>  I really don't
>> expect to get an answer from the POCA board, but I
>>    do
>>>>  want everyone on
>> the list to know, although our club worked twice
>>    x
>>>>  twice as hard to
>> successfully host such an awesome event, we had
>>    to
>>>>  double and
>> triple our work in order to compensate for the luck of
>>>>  support from
>> POCA.
>>>>  Our love and
>> passion for the car may take over our brain and lead
>>    us
>>>>  back to another
>> rally, but believe me, we know who our friends are
>>>>  these days.
>>>>  -----Original
>> Message-----
>>>>  From: [25]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>    [[26]mailto:sdpanteras at googlegroups.com]
>>>>  On Behalf Of Ed
>> Mendez
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday,
>> October 11, 2016 9:46 AM
>>>>  To: marshall
>> smith
>>>>  Cc: De Tomaso
>> List; Jack DeRyke; Detomaso at poca; Leslie
>> Gray; Mike
>>>>  Haney; Judy
>> McCartney; Bob Reid; Bob Reid; Scott Couchman; Josette
>>>>  D'Orazio;
>> Reno-Tahoe Panteras; San Diego Panteras
>>>>  Subject: [SDP]
>> Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>>  We are shooting
>> for April 26-30th, 2017
>>>>  All chapters
>> should put in their bids to host as a location has
>>    not
>>>>  been agreed upon
>> yet.
>>>>  I am even
>> working on alternatives.
>>>>  Ed
>>>>  Sent from my
>> iPhone 6 Plus
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:37,
>> marshall smith
>>>>  <[27]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> To POCA Board of Directors,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any information on
>> the dates and location of the POCA Fun
>>>>  Rally in 2017?
>>>>> I heard a rumor that we would
>> be heading back to Las Vegas and the
>>>>  Plaza Hotel. Is
>> that correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marshall Smith
>>>>> San Diego Panteras
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