[DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Tue Oct 11 20:37:26 EDT 2016


Laguna Seca has restrictive 90-92dB noise limits a Pantera could never pass. Track rental is $20k a day not counting corner workers, ambulance etc. which adds another $5k. 

They have a handful of 105 dB days each year, those are $30k plus workers, $35k total. 

C-5 money!

Mike

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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Laguna Seca! We can have the rally at the Motel 6 in Salinas. May just have to have armed guards in the parking lot. Lol
> 
> But seriously why not Laguna Seca... I've been down the cork screw and down the front straight at 145 on a 1996 Ducati 916. Fun!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 15:05, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Well that puts Reno out of contention then. Reno-Fernley Raceway has
>>  been reclaimed by the sagebrush.
>> 
>>  Julian
>> 
>>  On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, bill <[1]bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Any and all rallies should always include at least one or two track
>>  days.
>>  Cheers
>>  Bill Moore
>>  Calgary
>>  -------- Original message --------
>>  From: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>  Date: 2016-10-11 3:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>  To: Mike Drew <[3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>>  Cc: detomaso detomaso <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>  What, not even if we paint them camo and give it some covert operation
>>  name ;)
>>  I have to wonder what the theoretical cost per car would work out to
>>  be!
>>  Julian
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>>  <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, the cargo box is 121 ft long and we could fit two rows of cars.
>>  Assume a length of 15 feet (allowing some space between cars) that
>>  means two rows of eight for a total of 16 cars. But that would leave a
>>  lot of unused vertical space. If some sort of racking system was used
>>  conceivably we could fit 32 of them.
>>> 
>>> Not gonna happen...:)
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:01 PM, marshall smith
>>  <[6]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmmm....how many Panteras will fit in a C5-B Galaxy??
>>>> 
>>>> m
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Tue, 10/11/16, Charles McCall <[7]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>> To: "marshall smith" <[8]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Cc: "Larry Stock" <[9]larrys at panteraparts.com>, "Effie Richards"
>>  <[10]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>, "Julian Kift"
>>  <[11]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "[12]bill at incendium.com"
>>  <[13]bill at incendium.com>, "detomaso detomaso"
>>  <[14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:58 PM
>>>> 
>>>> Put your
>>>> cars in a container and send them to Europe! What a road
>>>> trip!
>>>> (am I
>>>> helping?)
>>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at
>>>> 9:57 PM, marshall smith <[15]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I LOVED
>>>> Reno!! That town rolled out the welcome mat to all of us!
>>>> Let's go again!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marshall Smith
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------ --------------
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 10/11/16, [16]bill at incendium.com
>>>> <[17]bill at incendium.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun
>>>> Rally
>>>> 
>>>> To: "Larry Stock" <[18]larrys at panteraparts.com>,
>>>> "Effie Richards" <[19]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com
>>>>> , "'Julian Kift'" <[20]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> Cc: "'detomaso detomaso'" <[21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
>>>> com>
>>>> 
>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  RENO , RENO, RENO
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Bill Moore
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Calgary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  -------- Original message --------
>>>> 
>>>>  From: Larry Stock <[22]larrys at panteraparts.com>
>>>> 
>>>>  Date: 2016-10-11 1:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>>> 
>>>>  To: Effie Richards <[23]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com
>>>>> ,
>>>> 
>>>> 'Julian Kift'
>>>> 
>>>>  <[24]julian_kift at hotmail.com>,
>>>> 
>>>> [25]bill at incendium.com
>>>> 
>>>>  Cc: 'detomaso detomaso' <[26]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
>>>> com>
>>>> 
>>>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017
>>>> 
>>>> POCA Fun Rally
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Yeah Yeah Yeah, You just can^1t get
>>>> 
>>>> anywhere without a traffic snarl
>>>> 
>>>>  and
>>>> 
>>>>  waiting in a line.
>>>> 
>>>>  On 10/11/16, 11:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
>>>> 
>>>> of Effie Richards"
>>>> 
>>>>  <detomaso-bounces at server.
>>>> [27]detomasolist.com
>>>> 
>>>> on behalf of
>>>> 
>>>>  [28]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.
>>>> com>
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Of course any season or month is good
>>>> 
>>>> in San Diego!...   Got you!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.
>>>> com]
>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:06
>>>> 
>>>> AM
>>>> 
>>>>> To: [29]bill at incendium.com
>>>> 
>>>>> Cc: Effie Richards; detomaso detomaso
>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re:
>>>> 
>>>> 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A lot depends on location selected,
>>>> 
>>>> Las Vegas is a bear in May or
>>>> 
>>>>  June,
>>>> 
>>>>> other venues e.g. Reno have a good
>>>> 
>>>> chance of snow prior to June. Then
>>>> 
>>>>> there
>>>> 
>>>>> is the whole accessibility for driving
>>>> 
>>>> with weather.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I would recommend dates be left open
>>>> 
>>>> for the proposing chapter to
>>>> 
>>>>  select,
>>>> 
>>>>> that way they can also avoid (or take
>>>> 
>>>> advantage of) any conflicts to
>>>> 
>>>>  other
>>>> 
>>>>> local events.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Julian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:57 AM, "[30]bill at incendium.com"
>>>> 
>>>>  <[31]bill at incendium.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> How about mid
>>>> 
>>>> May or even June.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill Moore
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Calgary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> --------
>>>> 
>>>> Original message --------
>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Effie
>>>> 
>>>> Richards <[32]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com
>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: 2016-10-11
>>>> 
>>>> 11:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>>> 
>>>>>> To: detomaso
>>>> 
>>>> detomaso <[33]detomaso at server.detomasolist.
>>>> com>
>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject:
>>>> 
>>>> [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original
>>>> 
>>>> Message-----
>>>> 
>>>>>> From: [34]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>>> 
>>>>  [mailto:sdpanteras@
>>>> [35]googlegroups.com]
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>> 
>>>> Effie Richards
>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday,
>>>> 
>>>> October 11, 2016 10:05 AM
>>>> 
>>>>>> To: 'Ed Mendez';
>>>> 
>>>> 'marshall smith'
>>>> 
>>>>>> Cc: 'De Tomaso
>>>> 
>>>> List'; 'Jack DeRyke';
>>>> 'Detomaso at poca';
>>>> 
>>>> 'Leslie
>>>> 
>>>>  Gray';
>>>> 
>>>>>> 'Mike Haney';
>>>> 
>>>> 'Judy McCartney'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Bob
>>>> Reid'; 'Scott
>>>> 
>>>>>> Couchman';
>>>> 
>>>> 'Josette D'Orazio'; 'Reno-Tahoe
>>>> Panteras'; 'San Diego
>>>> 
>>>>>> Panteras'
>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject: RE:
>>>> 
>>>> [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>> 
>>>>>> Here I come
>>>> 
>>>> again!....
>>>> 
>>>>>> Ed, I hope you
>>>> 
>>>> are not expecting Marshall to put a bid in...  not
>>>> 
>>>>>> after
>>>> 
>>>>>> our experience
>>>> 
>>>> of 2014!
>>>> 
>>>>>> By the way, no
>>>> 
>>>> one from POCA had the curtesy of responding to my
>>>> 
>>>>>> question "why
>>>> 
>>>> POCA did not support SDP club hosting the 2014 rally
>>>> 
>>>>  and
>>>> 
>>>>>> instead,
>>>> 
>>>> sabotaged our efforts and totally ignored our pleas for
>>>> 
>>>>>> support"?
>>>> 
>>>> Someone or someones were behind this "coup"
>>>> and no
>>>> 
>>>>  one
>>>> 
>>>>>> will ever have
>>>> 
>>>> the nerve or class to even apologize without
>>>> 
>>>>  admitting
>>>> 
>>>>>> guilt, just like
>>>> 
>>>> our politicians!
>>>> 
>>>>>> I really don't
>>>> 
>>>> expect to get an answer from the POCA board, but I
>>>> 
>>>>  do
>>>> 
>>>>>> want everyone on
>>>> 
>>>> the list to know, although our club worked twice
>>>> 
>>>>  x
>>>> 
>>>>>> twice as hard to
>>>> 
>>>> successfully host such an awesome event, we had
>>>> 
>>>>  to
>>>> 
>>>>>> double and
>>>> 
>>>> triple our work in order to compensate for the luck of
>>>> 
>>>>>> support from
>>>> 
>>>> POCA.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Our love and
>>>> 
>>>> passion for the car may take over our brain and lead
>>>> 
>>>>  us
>>>> 
>>>>>> back to another
>>>> 
>>>> rally, but believe me, we know who our friends are
>>>> 
>>>>>> these days.
>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original
>>>> 
>>>> Message-----
>>>> 
>>>>>> From: [36]sdpanteras at googlegroups.com
>>>> 
>>>>  [mailto:sdpanteras@
>>>> [37]googlegroups.com]
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ed
>>>> 
>>>> Mendez
>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday,
>>>> 
>>>> October 11, 2016 9:46 AM
>>>> 
>>>>>> To: marshall
>>>> 
>>>> smith
>>>> 
>>>>>> Cc: De Tomaso
>>>> 
>>>> List; Jack DeRyke; Detomaso at poca; Leslie
>>>> 
>>>> Gray; Mike
>>>> 
>>>>>> Haney; Judy
>>>> 
>>>> McCartney; Bob Reid; Bob Reid; Scott Couchman; Josette
>>>> 
>>>>>> D'Orazio;
>>>> 
>>>> Reno-Tahoe Panteras; San Diego Panteras
>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject: [SDP]
>>>> 
>>>> Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
>>>> 
>>>>>> We are shooting
>>>> 
>>>> for April 26-30th, 2017
>>>> 
>>>>>> All chapters
>>>> 
>>>> should put in their bids to host as a location has
>>>> 
>>>>  not
>>>> 
>>>>>> been agreed upon
>>>> 
>>>> yet.
>>>> 
>>>>>> I am even
>>>> 
>>>> working on alternatives.
>>>> 
>>>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my
>>>> 
>>>> iPhone 6 Plus
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:37,
>>>> 
>>>> marshall smith
>>>> 
>>>>>> <marshallgsmith@
>>>> [38]sbcglobal.net>
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> To POCA Board of Directors,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there any information on
>>>> 
>>>> the dates and location of the POCA Fun
>>>> 
>>>>>> Rally in 2017?
>>>> 
>>>>>>> I heard a rumor that we would
>>>> 
>>>> be heading back to Las Vegas and the
>>>> 
>>>>>> Plaza Hotel. Is
>>>> 
>>>> that correct?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marshall Smith
>>>> 
>>>>>>> San Diego Panteras
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