[DeTomaso] 2nd thoughts, was Re: Headlights - Stock replacement options?

Guido deTomaso guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
Thu Oct 6 12:08:50 EDT 2016


Wondering if I originally misunderstood this comment.  Perhaps the meaning is LED vs. LED, power trends with light output regardless of quality.  IOW a 115w LED puts out ~3x the light of a 40w LED.
Still figure I'll wait till prices drop even more, maybe power draws drop to ~25w.
GD


      From: Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>
 To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net 
Cc: bill at incendium.com; scott at scottmeadphotography.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
   
I wouldn't expect power draw to drop much for a given amount of light. Efficiency is what it is for a LED.
Tomas


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|   |   | From: Guido deTomaso [guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
Sent: 30/9/2016 9:08:44 AM
To: bill at incendium.com;scott at scottmeadphotography.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options? 


For a different application I've been looking at LED headlamps on eBay etc.  Want to run six at once without killing the generator.
>From what I've seen there are many drop in replacements for the standard 7" round sealed beam lights that used to be ubiquitous. For some reason Jeeps are always the target market, Vortex also only mentions the Jeep application by name:
http://www.visionxusa.com/shop/7-vortex-led-headlight/


At the ~$50 price point, many different sellers on eBay appear to be selling the same offshore units, some have many LED's within the seven inch circle, others have 3-4 larger LED's. Halos/angel eyes, DRL's & amber built in turn signals are common variations.
But often the power consumption on these is greater than the old sealed beams ... there appear to be heat sinks on the back and I wonder what the air circulation would be once installed in the typical bucket.  This power consumption does not support my genius plan obviously.
OTOH these visionx units at $419 ea. do appear to waste less power, consuming only 40 watts per the website.
Expect I'll wait for the price, and power consumption, to fall.
GD



 From: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
 To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com> 
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
 
  Will do Scott, later once its dark, we are having our Panteras
  Northwest Fall Cruise windup supper in Nelson BC.  We have had a great
  trip from Seattle up here to a car show (700 cars). Great cats, great
  time, great friends.

  Cheers

  Bill Moore

  Calgary

  -------- Original message --------
  From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
  Date: 2016-09-10 3:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
  To: bill at incendium.com
  Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Brent Stewart
  <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?

  Aloha Bill - any chance you have pictures you could share of the lights
  in action? I've installed Sylvania SilverStars all my vehicles, but I'm
  lucky if the bulbs last more than a year (I don't think they take too
  kindly to a lot of vibration). The Vortex LEDs sound like the optimum
  replacement.
  Mahalo,
  Scott
  Sent from my iPhone
  > On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:06 AM, "bill at incendium.com"
  <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
  >
  >  We are having lunch in Spokane right now, I just sent Brent the
  info
  >  about my LED lights.
  >
  >  Www.visonxusa.com
  >
  >  7RD series
  >
  >  Pt# 9891217
  >
  >  Item # XIL-7RD
  >
  >  Cheers
  >  Bill Moore
  >  Calgary
  >
  >  -------- Original message --------
  >  From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  >  Date: 2016-09-09 9:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
  >  To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, Bill Moore
  >  <bill at incendium.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
  >
  >  Brent,
  >
  >  Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have to
  say
  >  they gave out an exceptional amount of light.
  >
  >  I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week and
  >  I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him direct.
  >
  >  Julian
  >
  __________________________________________________________________
  >
  >  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
  of
  >  Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  >  Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM
  >  To: DeTomaso List
  >  Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
  >
  >  .Howdy all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours coming up
  in
  >  a few weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can
  drive
  >  at night.  I have the stock round ones, and would like to get
  something
  >  that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens in
  my
  >  240Z and they seem to work
  >  great:.http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm
  >  .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car?  What else have y'all
  >  used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent..
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   Wondering if I originally misunderstood this comment.  Perhaps the
   meaning is LED vs. LED, power trends with light output regardless of
   quality.  IOW a 115w LED puts out ~3x the light of a 40w LED.
   Still figure I'll wait till prices drop even more, maybe power draws
   drop to ~25w.
   GD
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>
   To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
   Cc: bill at incendium.com; scott at scottmeadphotography.com;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:25 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
   I wouldn't expect power draw to drop much for a given amount of light.
   Efficiency is what it is for a LED.
   Tomas
   <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
       From: Guido deTomaso [guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
   Sent: 30/9/2016 9:08:44 AM
   To: bill at incendium.com;scott at scottmeadphotography.com
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
   For a different application I've been looking at LED headlamps on eBay
   etc.  Want to run six at once without killing the generator.
   From what I've seen there are many drop in replacements for the
   standard 7" round sealed beam lights that used to be ubiquitous. For
   some reason Jeeps are always the target market, Vortex also only
   mentions the Jeep application by name:
   http://www.visionxusa.com/shop/7-vortex-led-headlight/
   At the ~$50 price point, many different sellers on eBay appear to be
   selling the same offshore units, some have many LED's within the seven
   inch circle, others have 3-4 larger LED's. Halos/angel eyes, DRL's &
   amber built in turn signals are common variations.
   But often the power consumption on these is greater than the old sealed
   beams ... there appear to be heat sinks on the back and I wonder what
   the air circulation would be once installed in the typical bucket.
   This power consumption does not support my genius plan obviously.
   OTOH these visionx units at $419 ea. do appear to waste less power,
   consuming only 40 watts per the website.
   Expect I'll wait for the price, and power consumption, to fall.
   GD
   From: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
   To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
   Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
     Will do Scott, later once its dark, we are having our Panteras
     Northwest Fall Cruise windup supper in Nelson BC.  We have had a
   great
     trip from Seattle up here to a car show (700 cars). Great cats, great
     time, great friends.
     Cheers
     Bill Moore
     Calgary
     -------- Original message --------
     From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
     Date: 2016-09-10 3:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
     To: bill at incendium.com
     Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Brent Stewart
     <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
     Aloha Bill - any chance you have pictures you could share of the
   lights
     in action? I've installed Sylvania SilverStars all my vehicles, but
   I'm
     lucky if the bulbs last more than a year (I don't think they take too
     kindly to a lot of vibration). The Vortex LEDs sound like the optimum
     replacement.
     Mahalo,
     Scott
     Sent from my iPhone
     > On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:06 AM, "bill at incendium.com"
     <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
     >
     >  We are having lunch in Spokane right now, I just sent Brent the
     info
     >  about my LED lights.
     >
     >  Www.visonxusa.com
     >
     >  7RD series
     >
     >  Pt# 9891217
     >
     >  Item # XIL-7RD
     >
     >  Cheers
     >  Bill Moore
     >  Calgary
     >
     >  -------- Original message --------
     >  From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     >  Date: 2016-09-09 9:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
     >  To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, Bill Moore
     >  <bill at incendium.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
     >
     >  Brent,
     >
     >  Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have to
     say
     >  they gave out an exceptional amount of light.
     >
     >  I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week and
     >  I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him direct.
     >
     >  Julian
     >
     __________________________________________________________________
     >
     >  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf
     of
     >  Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     >  Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM
     >  To: DeTomaso List
     >  Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
     >
     >  .Howdy all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours coming
   up
     in
     >  a few weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can
     drive
     >  at night.  I have the stock round ones, and would like to get
     something
     >  that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens in
     my
     >  240Z and they seem to work
     >  great:.http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm
     >  .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car?  What else have y'all
     >  used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent..
     > _______________________________________________
     >
     >
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