[DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
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Sat Oct 1 20:21:05 EDT 2016
But gotta wonder just how much better is a $400+ LED headlight vs. a
$50 LED
headlight ?
Good question. Quite a bit better, actually. I'm not an expert, but
I do some property management and over the years I've seen how LED
lighting has improved. The cheaper ones tend to have many of the tiny
LED's daisy-chained together. These are nice and bright but haven't
really stood up to commercial use over time. One by one the little
suckers burn out. Recently LED tech has advanced and now there
are larger singular LED's that look more like a microchip than any
conventional LED bulb array. I just put one over my garage door and
it is super bright and draws next to nothing in power compared to the
incandescent floods. I'd imagine that the more expensive LED
headlights use these new "microchip" type emitters that work so well.
As to their longevity, I cannot say. Time will tell.
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On October 1, 2016 at 2:31 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" wrote:Guido,
I spoke to a man who works for a large light producing company. He
told me
that the way LED replacement lamps make light is differently then the
stock
lamps. He said the reflector needs to be designed for the LED lamps.
Larry (in the dark) - Cleveland
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Of Guido deTomaso
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:23 PM
To: Tomas Gunnarsson
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
An odd thing to say, given LED's are the big thing in home power
consumption
reduction ... they don't generate the waste heat of an incandescent.
I'm guessing inefficient power regulation in the cheaper LED
headlights is
why they take more power than the pricey ones.
But gotta wonder just how much better is a $400+ LED headlight vs. a
$50 LED
headlight ? $700 buys a lot of replacement generators.
Thanks,
GD
From: Tomas Gunnarsson
To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
Cc: bill at incendium.com; scott at scottmeadphotography.com;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
I wouldn't expect power draw to drop much for a given amount of light.
Efficiency is what it is for a LED.
Tomas
| | | From: Guido deTomaso [guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
Sent: 30/9/2016 9:08:44 AM
To: bill at incendium.com;scott at scottmeadphotography.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
For a different application I've been looking at LED headlamps on eBay
etc.
Want to run six at once without killing the generator.
>From what I've seen there are many drop in replacements for the
standard 7"
round sealed beam lights that used to be ubiquitous. For some reason
Jeeps
are always the target market, Vortex also only mentions the Jeep
application
by name:
http://www.visionxusa.com/shop/7-vortex-led-headlight/
At the ~$50 price point, many different sellers on eBay appear to be
selling
the same offshore units, some have many LED's within the seven inch
circle,
others have 3-4 larger LED's. Halos/angel eyes, DRL's & amber built in
turn
signals are common variations.
But often the power consumption on these is greater than the old
sealed
beams ... there appear to be heat sinks on the back and I wonder what
the
air circulation would be once installed in the typical bucket. This
power
consumption does not support my genius plan obviously.
OTOH these visionx units at $419 ea. do appear to waste less power,
consuming only 40 watts per the website.
Expect I'll wait for the price, and power consumption, to fall.
GD
From: "bill at incendium.com"
To: Scott Mead Photography
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Will do Scott, later once its dark, we are having our Panteras
Northwest Fall Cruise windup supper in Nelson BC. We have had a
great
trip from Seattle up here to a car show (700 cars). Great cats,
great
time, great friends.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Mead Photography
Date: 2016-09-10 3:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: bill at incendium.com
Cc: Julian Kift , Brent Stewart
, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Aloha Bill - any chance you have pictures you could share of the
lights
in action? I've installed Sylvania SilverStars all my vehicles, but
I'm
lucky if the bulbs last more than a year (I don't think they take
too
kindly to a lot of vibration). The Vortex LEDs sound like the
optimum
replacement.
Mahalo,
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:06 AM, "bill at incendium.com"
wrote:
>
> We are having lunch in Spokane right now, I just sent Brent the
info
> about my LED lights.
>
> Www.visonxusa.com
>
> 7RD series
>
> Pt# 9891217
>
> Item # XIL-7RD
>
> Cheers
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Julian Kift
> Date: 2016-09-09 9:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Brent Stewart , Bill Moore
> , detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> Brent,
>
> Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have to
say
> they gave out an exceptional amount of light.
>
> I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week
and
> I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him
direct.
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso on behalf
of
> Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: DeTomaso List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> .Howdy all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours coming
up
in
> a few weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can
drive
> at night. I have the stock round ones, and would like to get
something
> that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens
in
my
> 240Z and they seem to work
> great:.http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm
> .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car? What else have y'all
> used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent..
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But gotta wonder just how much better is a $400+ LED headlight vs. a
$50 LED
headlight ?
Good question. Quite a bit better, actually. I'm not an expert, but I
do some property management and over the years I've seen how LED
lighting has improved. The cheaper ones tend to have many of the tiny
LED's daisy-chained together. These are nice and bright but haven't
really stood up to commercial use over time.
One by one the little suckers burn out.
Recently LED tech has advanced and now there are larger singular LED's
that look more like a microchip than any conventional LED bulb array.
I just put one over my garage door and it is super bright and draws
next to nothing in power compared to the incandescent floods.
I'd imagine that the more expensive LED headlights use these new
"microchip" type emitters that work so well. As to their longevity, I
cannot say. Time will tell.
Sent using Hushmail
On October 1, 2016 at 2:31 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time"
<Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com> wrote:
Guido,
I spoke to a man who works for a large light producing company. He
told me
that the way LED replacement lamps make light is differently then
the stock
lamps. He said the reflector needs to be designed for the LED lamps.
Larry (in the dark) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Guido deTomaso
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:23 PM
To: Tomas Gunnarsson
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
An odd thing to say, given LED's are the big thing in home power
consumption
reduction ... they don't generate the waste heat of an incandescent.
I'm guessing inefficient power regulation in the cheaper LED
headlights is
why they take more power than the pricey ones.
But gotta wonder just how much better is a $400+ LED headlight vs. a
$50 LED
headlight ? $700 buys a lot of replacement generators.
Thanks,
GD
From: Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>
To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
Cc: bill at incendium.com; scott at scottmeadphotography.com;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
I wouldn't expect power draw to drop much for a given amount of
light.
Efficiency is what it is for a LED.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
| | | From: Guido deTomaso [guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
Sent: 30/9/2016 9:08:44 AM
To: bill at incendium.com;scott at scottmeadphotography.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
For a different application I've been looking at LED headlamps on
eBay etc.
Want to run six at once without killing the generator.
From what I've seen there are many drop in replacements for the
standard 7"
round sealed beam lights that used to be ubiquitous. For some reason
Jeeps
are always the target market, Vortex also only mentions the Jeep
application
by name:
[1]http://www.visionxusa.com/shop/7-vortex-led-headlight/
At the ~$50 price point, many different sellers on eBay appear to be
selling
the same offshore units, some have many LED's within the seven inch
circle,
others have 3-4 larger LED's. Halos/angel eyes, DRL's & amber built
in turn
signals are common variations.
But often the power consumption on these is greater than the old
sealed
beams ... there appear to be heat sinks on the back and I wonder
what the
air circulation would be once installed in the typical bucket. This
power
consumption does not support my genius plan obviously.
OTOH these visionx units at $419 ea. do appear to waste less power,
consuming only 40 watts per the website.
Expect I'll wait for the price, and power consumption, to fall.
GD
From: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Will do Scott, later once its dark, we are having our Panteras
Northwest Fall Cruise windup supper in Nelson BC. We have had a
great
trip from Seattle up here to a car show (700 cars). Great cats,
great
time, great friends.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Date: 2016-09-10 3:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: bill at incendium.com
Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Brent Stewart
<bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Aloha Bill - any chance you have pictures you could share of the
lights
in action? I've installed Sylvania SilverStars all my vehicles,
but I'm
lucky if the bulbs last more than a year (I don't think they take
too
kindly to a lot of vibration). The Vortex LEDs sound like the
optimum
replacement.
Mahalo,
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:06 AM, "bill at incendium.com"
<bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>
> We are having lunch in Spokane right now, I just sent Brent the
info
> about my LED lights.
>
> [2]Www.visonxusa.com
>
> 7RD series
>
> Pt# 9891217
>
> Item # XIL-7RD
>
> Cheers
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Date: 2016-09-09 9:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, Bill Moore
> <bill at incendium.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> Brent,
>
> Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have
to
say
> they gave out an exceptional amount of light.
>
> I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week
and
> I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him
direct.
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of
> Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: DeTomaso List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> .Howdy all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours
coming up
in
> a few weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can
drive
> at night. I have the stock round ones, and would like to get
something
> that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens
in
my
> 240Z and they seem to work
> great:.[3]http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm
> .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car? What else have y'all
> used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent..
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