[DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Guido deTomaso
guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
Sat Oct 1 16:23:18 EDT 2016
An odd thing to say, given LED's are the big thing in home power consumption reduction ... they don't generate the waste heat of an incandescent.
I'm guessing inefficient power regulation in the cheaper LED headlights is why they take more power than the pricey ones.
But gotta wonder just how much better is a $400+ LED headlight vs. a $50 LED headlight ? $700 buys a lot of replacement generators.
Thanks,
GD
From: Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>
To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
Cc: bill at incendium.com; scott at scottmeadphotography.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
I wouldn't expect power draw to drop much for a given amount of light. Efficiency is what it is for a LED.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
| | | From: Guido deTomaso [guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
Sent: 30/9/2016 9:08:44 AM
To: bill at incendium.com;scott at scottmeadphotography.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
For a different application I've been looking at LED headlamps on eBay etc. Want to run six at once without killing the generator.
>From what I've seen there are many drop in replacements for the standard 7" round sealed beam lights that used to be ubiquitous. For some reason Jeeps are always the target market, Vortex also only mentions the Jeep application by name:
http://www.visionxusa.com/shop/7-vortex-led-headlight/
At the ~$50 price point, many different sellers on eBay appear to be selling the same offshore units, some have many LED's within the seven inch circle, others have 3-4 larger LED's. Halos/angel eyes, DRL's & amber built in turn signals are common variations.
But often the power consumption on these is greater than the old sealed beams ... there appear to be heat sinks on the back and I wonder what the air circulation would be once installed in the typical bucket. This power consumption does not support my genius plan obviously.
OTOH these visionx units at $419 ea. do appear to waste less power, consuming only 40 watts per the website.
Expect I'll wait for the price, and power consumption, to fall.
GD
From: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Will do Scott, later once its dark, we are having our Panteras
Northwest Fall Cruise windup supper in Nelson BC. We have had a great
trip from Seattle up here to a car show (700 cars). Great cats, great
time, great friends.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Date: 2016-09-10 3:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: bill at incendium.com
Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Brent Stewart
<bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Aloha Bill - any chance you have pictures you could share of the lights
in action? I've installed Sylvania SilverStars all my vehicles, but I'm
lucky if the bulbs last more than a year (I don't think they take too
kindly to a lot of vibration). The Vortex LEDs sound like the optimum
replacement.
Mahalo,
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:06 AM, "bill at incendium.com"
<bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>
> We are having lunch in Spokane right now, I just sent Brent the
info
> about my LED lights.
>
> Www.visonxusa.com
>
> 7RD series
>
> Pt# 9891217
>
> Item # XIL-7RD
>
> Cheers
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Date: 2016-09-09 9:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, Bill Moore
> <bill at incendium.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> Brent,
>
> Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have to
say
> they gave out an exceptional amount of light.
>
> I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week and
> I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him direct.
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
> Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: DeTomaso List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> .Howdy all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours coming up
in
> a few weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can
drive
> at night. I have the stock round ones, and would like to get
something
> that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens in
my
> 240Z and they seem to work
> great:.http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm
> .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car? What else have y'all
> used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent..
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An odd thing to say, given LED's are the big thing in home power
consumption reduction ... they don't generate the waste heat of an
incandescent.
I'm guessing inefficient power regulation in the cheaper LED headlights
is why they take more power than the pricey ones.
But gotta wonder just how much better is a $400+ LED headlight vs. a
$50 LED headlight ? $700 buys a lot of replacement generators.
Thanks,
GD
__________________________________________________________________
From: Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se>
To: guido_detomaso at prodigy.net
Cc: bill at incendium.com; scott at scottmeadphotography.com;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
I wouldn't expect power draw to drop much for a given amount of light.
Efficiency is what it is for a LED.
Tomas
<-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
From: Guido deTomaso [guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
Sent: 30/9/2016 9:08:44 AM
To: bill at incendium.com;scott at scottmeadphotography.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
For a different application I've been looking at LED headlamps on eBay
etc. Want to run six at once without killing the generator.
From what I've seen there are many drop in replacements for the
standard 7" round sealed beam lights that used to be ubiquitous. For
some reason Jeeps are always the target market, Vortex also only
mentions the Jeep application by name:
http://www.visionxusa.com/shop/7-vortex-led-headlight/
At the ~$50 price point, many different sellers on eBay appear to be
selling the same offshore units, some have many LED's within the seven
inch circle, others have 3-4 larger LED's. Halos/angel eyes, DRL's &
amber built in turn signals are common variations.
But often the power consumption on these is greater than the old sealed
beams ... there appear to be heat sinks on the back and I wonder what
the air circulation would be once installed in the typical bucket.
This power consumption does not support my genius plan obviously.
OTOH these visionx units at $419 ea. do appear to waste less power,
consuming only 40 watts per the website.
Expect I'll wait for the price, and power consumption, to fall.
GD
From: "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com>
To: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Will do Scott, later once its dark, we are having our Panteras
Northwest Fall Cruise windup supper in Nelson BC. We have had a
great
trip from Seattle up here to a car show (700 cars). Great cats, great
time, great friends.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
Date: 2016-09-10 3:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: bill at incendium.com
Cc: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, Brent Stewart
<bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
Aloha Bill - any chance you have pictures you could share of the
lights
in action? I've installed Sylvania SilverStars all my vehicles, but
I'm
lucky if the bulbs last more than a year (I don't think they take too
kindly to a lot of vibration). The Vortex LEDs sound like the optimum
replacement.
Mahalo,
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 11:06 AM, "bill at incendium.com"
<bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>
> We are having lunch in Spokane right now, I just sent Brent the
info
> about my LED lights.
>
> Www.visonxusa.com
>
> 7RD series
>
> Pt# 9891217
>
> Item # XIL-7RD
>
> Cheers
> Bill Moore
> Calgary
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Date: 2016-09-09 9:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>, Bill Moore
> <bill at incendium.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> Brent,
>
> Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have to
say
> they gave out an exceptional amount of light.
>
> I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week and
> I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him direct.
>
> Julian
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of
> Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: DeTomaso List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
>
> .Howdy all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours coming
up
in
> a few weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can
drive
> at night. I have the stock round ones, and would like to get
something
> that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens in
my
> 240Z and they seem to work
> great:.http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm
> .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car? What else have y'all
> used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent..
> _______________________________________________
>
>
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