[DeTomaso] This is the DeTomaso mailing list, a free and open forum...
Christopher Kimball
chrisvkimball at msn.com
Mon Nov 21 14:23:28 EST 2016
I hope it's true! I enjoy the 1st amendment
Chris...
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Dan Courtney<mailto:dan at excaliburre.com>
Sent: 11/21/2016 11:18 AM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] This is the DeTomaso mailing list, a free and open forum...
I admit I've been out of the loop for awhile, but I was surprised to catch so much flak from POCA officials for posting my opinion on this Forum.
I'm a fan of free and open communications.
I'm not a fan of censorship and punishment for stating an apparently dissenting opinion.
That's why I live in America.
Question, does POCA now control the editorial content of the Forum?
Will I be restricted from making future posts if I don't endorse and embrace the "company line"?
I noticed each post has the following tag "This is the DeTomaso mailing list, a free and open forum for the discussion of issues surrounding all DeTomaso automobiles. This
is an unmoderated mailing list"
Is this still true?
Comrade Courtney
A > On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Dan Courtney
<[6]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >A That's a brilliant approach for motivating past members to
re-join.
A A >A Really makes me feel like getting involved again.
A A >
A A >A Dan Courtney
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A No membership, no vote. Your opinion is optional. We don't
get paid
A A for
A A >A our extra work for the club. If you don't pay $75 and
become a
A A member,
A A >A your voice is silent to me sir.
A A >
A A >A Joe
A A >
A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dan Courtney
<[7]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A Interjecting in regards to your club events?
A A >A Are you serious?
A A >
A A >A Dan Courtney
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 PM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A I am on the board of directors as Secretary. What is your
purpose of
A A >A interjecting in regards to our club events?
A A >
A A >A Cheers
A A >
A A >
A A >A Joe
A A >
A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Dan Courtney
<[8]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A Hi Joe, are you new to POCA?
A A >
A A >A Dan
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A Hi Dan
A A >
A A >A I can't find you in the POCA membership database. Are you a
member?
A A If
A A >A not, then what is you investment in our club?A If you are
a member,
A A >A give me your details of payment and we will have Judy
McCarthy
A A >A straighten it out.
A A >
A A >A Joe Stockett
A A >A POCA Secretary
A A >
A A >A On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Courtney
<[9]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A A A A Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but
thatas
A A >A A primarily
A A >A A A A because of the ability to race on a world class
track.
A A >A A A A Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once
again
A A ignoring
A A >A A and
A A >A A A A alienating the racers in the Club.
A A >A A A A Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas the
point in
A A >A A having a
A A >A A A A Pantera track car if you canat compete against other
Panteras?
A A >A A A A Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not worth
A A trailering a
A A >A A race
A A >A A A A car for a 1,000 mile trip.
A A >A A A A I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but now
itas
A A looking
A A >A A like
A A >A A A A the Club doesnat care about itas racing contingency,
or about
A A the
A A >A A A A Pantera racing tradition.
A A >A A A A As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and The
Winged
A A >A A Warrior,
A A >A A A A out.
A A >A A A A Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone cares,
but I
A A >A A strongly
A A >A A A A feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day
should be a
A A top
A A >A A A A priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
A A >A A A A Dan Courtney
A A >A A __________________________
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I hope it's true! I enjoy the 1st amendment
Chris...
Sent from my Windows Phone
__________________________________________________________________
From: [1]Dan Courtney
Sent: 11/21/2016 11:18 AM
To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] This is the DeTomaso mailing list, a free and open
forum...
I admit I've been out of the loop for awhile, but I was surprised to
catch so much flak from POCA officials for posting my opinion on this
Forum.
I'm a fan of free and open communications.
I'm not a fan of censorship and punishment for stating an apparently
dissenting opinion.
That's why I live in America.
Question, does POCA now control the editorial content of the Forum?
Will I be restricted from making future posts if I don't endorse and
embrace the "company line"?
I noticed each post has the following tag "This is the DeTomaso mailing
list, a free and open forum for the discussion of issues surrounding
all DeTomaso automobiles. This
is an unmoderated mailing list"
Is this still true?
Comrade Courtney
A > On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Dan Courtney
<[6]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >A That's a brilliant approach for motivating past members
to
re-join.
A A >A Really makes me feel like getting involved again.
A A >
A A >A Dan Courtney
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A No membership, no vote. Your opinion is optional. We
don't
get paid
A A for
A A >A our extra work for the club. If you don't pay $75 and
become a
A A member,
A A >A your voice is silent to me sir.
A A >
A A >A Joe
A A >
A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dan Courtney
<[7]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A Interjecting in regards to your club events?
A A >A Are you serious?
A A >
A A >A Dan Courtney
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 PM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A I am on the board of directors as Secretary. What is your
purpose of
A A >A interjecting in regards to our club events?
A A >
A A >A Cheers
A A >
A A >
A A >A Joe
A A >
A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Dan Courtney
<[8]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A Hi Joe, are you new to POCA?
A A >
A A >A Dan
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A Hi Dan
A A >
A A >A I can't find you in the POCA membership database. Are you
a
member?
A A If
A A >A not, then what is you investment in our club?A If you
are
a member,
A A >A give me your details of payment and we will have Judy
McCarthy
A A >A straighten it out.
A A >
A A >A Joe Stockett
A A >A POCA Secretary
A A >
A A >A On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Courtney
<[9]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A A A A Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but
thatas
A A >A A primarily
A A >A A A A because of the ability to race on a world class
track.
A A >A A A A Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once
again
A A ignoring
A A >A A and
A A >A A A A alienating the racers in the Club.
A A >A A A A Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas
the
point in
A A >A A having a
A A >A A A A Pantera track car if you canat compete against
other
Panteras?
A A >A A A A Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not
worth
A A trailering a
A A >A A race
A A >A A A A car for a 1,000 mile trip.
A A >A A A A I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but
now
itas
A A looking
A A >A A like
A A >A A A A the Club doesnat care about itas racing
contingency,
or about
A A the
A A >A A A A Pantera racing tradition.
A A >A A A A As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and
The
Winged
A A >A A Warrior,
A A >A A A A out.
A A >A A A A Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone
cares,
but I
A A >A A strongly
A A >A A A A feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day
should be a
A A top
A A >A A A A priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
A A >A A A A Dan Courtney
A A >A A __________________________
References
1. mailto:dan at excaliburre.com
2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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