[DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun Rally?
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 09:41:42 EST 2016
This was the 3rd time they tried to resurrect the "forum" and it's the 3rd
failure. Why would anyone try to unseat the PI forum with its well
established user community. Market share rules.
Jeff
6559
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> The funny thing is no one is using the POCA forum, when I looked this
> morning the last post was almost a month ago!
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:47 PM
> To: Effie Richards; Dan Courtney
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun Rally?
>
> I didn't know that this was the POCA forum. I thought that Mr. Short
> had passed on, I must have been mistaken.
> If some want to do POCA snippy, do it on the POCA forum. This forum was
> established to get away from that.
> Mark
> On Sunday, November 20, 2016 5:18 PM, Effie Richards
> <erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's the idea, folks! Join POCA, get a voice, help our board! Ed's
> venue for the rally is awesome and love the idea for a parade, sorry to
> miss it but we will be in Europe, trip is already booked n
> non-refundable.
> In the future, our volunteers will try to secure a track event for
> those of us who love it, I'm sure, but for now, the change for 2017 is
> great and wish we could be there too!
> Thank you, Ed, thank you Board!
> Sent from Effie's iPad
> > On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thatas a brilliant approach for motivating past members to re-join.
> > Really makes me feel like getting involved again.
> >
> > Dan Courtney
> >
> > From: Joe Stockett
> > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
> > To: Dan Courtney
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun Rally?
> >
> > No membership, no vote. Your opinion is optional. We don't get paid
> for
> > our extra work for the club. If you don't pay $75 and become a
> member,
> > your voice is silent to me sir.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > aInterjecting in regards to your club eventsa?
> > Are you serious?
> >
> > Dan Courtney
> >
> > From: Joe Stockett
> > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 PM
> > To: Dan Courtney
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun Rally?
> >
> > I am on the board of directors as Secretary. What is your purpose of
> > interjecting in regards to our club events?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joe, are you new to POCA?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > From: Joe Stockett
> > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM
> > To: Dan Courtney
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun Rally?
> >
> > Hi Dan
> >
> > I can't find you in the POCA membership database. Are you a member?
> If
> > not, then what is you investment in our club? If you are a member,
> > give me your details of payment and we will have Judy McCarthy
> > straighten it out.
> >
> > Joe Stockett
> > POCA Secretary
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Courtney <dan at excaliburre.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but thatas
> > primarily
> > because of the ability to race on a world class track.
> > Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once again
> ignoring
> > and
> > alienating the racers in the Club.
> > Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas the point in
> > having a
> > Pantera track car if you canat compete against other Panteras?
> > Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not worth
> trailering a
> > race
> > car for a 1,000 mile trip.
> > I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but now itas
> looking
> > like
> > the Club doesnat care about itas racing contingency, or about
> the
> > Pantera racing tradition.
> > As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and The Winged
> > Warrior,
> > out.
> > Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone cares, but I
> > strongly
> > feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day should be a
> top
> > priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
> > Dan Courtney
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This was the 3rd time they tried to resurrect the "forum" and it's the
3rd failure. Why would anyone try to unseat the PI forum with its well
established user community. Market share rules.
Jeff
6559
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A The funny thing is no one is using the POCA forum, when I
looked this
A A morning the last post was almost a month ago!
A A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
A A mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:47 PM
A A To: Effie Richards; Dan Courtney
A A Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun
Rally?
A A I didn'tA know that this was the POCA forum. I thought thatA
Mr. Short
A A had passed on, I must have been mistaken.
A A If some want to do POCA snippy, do it on the POCA forum. This
forum was
A A established to get away from that.
A A Mark
A A A A On Sunday, November 20, 2016 5:18 PM, Effie Richards
A A <[5]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
A A That's the idea, folks! Join POCA, get a voice, help our
board! Ed's
A A venue for the rally is awesome and love the idea for a parade,
sorry to
A A miss it but we will be in Europe, trip is already booked n
A A non-refundable.
A A In the future, our volunteers will try to secure a track event
for
A A those of us who love it, I'm sure, but for now, the change for
2017 is
A A great and wish we could be there too!
A A Thank you, Ed, thank you Board!
A A Sent from Effie's iPad
A A > On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Dan Courtney
<[6]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >A Thatas a brilliant approach for motivating past members to
re-join.
A A >A Really makes me feel like getting involved again.
A A >
A A >A Dan Courtney
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A No membership, no vote. Your opinion is optional. We don't
get paid
A A for
A A >A our extra work for the club. If you don't pay $75 and
become a
A A member,
A A >A your voice is silent to me sir.
A A >
A A >A Joe
A A >
A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Dan Courtney
<[7]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A aInterjecting in regards to your club eventsa?
A A >A Are you serious?
A A >
A A >A Dan Courtney
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 PM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A I am on the board of directors as Secretary. What is your
purpose of
A A >A interjecting in regards to our club events?
A A >
A A >A Cheers
A A >
A A >
A A >A Joe
A A >
A A >A On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Dan Courtney
<[8]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A Hi Joe, are you new to POCA?
A A >
A A >A Dan
A A >
A A >A From: Joe Stockett
A A >A Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:07 AM
A A >A To: Dan Courtney
A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA
Fun Rally?
A A >
A A >A Hi Dan
A A >
A A >A I can't find you in the POCA membership database. Are you a
member?
A A If
A A >A not, then what is you investment in our club?A If you are
a member,
A A >A give me your details of payment and we will have Judy
McCarthy
A A >A straighten it out.
A A >
A A >A Joe Stockett
A A >A POCA Secretary
A A >
A A >A On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Courtney
<[9]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A >A wrote:
A A >
A A >A A A A Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but
thatas
A A >A A primarily
A A >A A A A because of the ability to race on a world class
track.
A A >A A A A Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once
again
A A ignoring
A A >A A and
A A >A A A A alienating the racers in the Club.
A A >A A A A Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas the
point in
A A >A A having a
A A >A A A A Pantera track car if you canat compete against other
Panteras?
A A >A A A A Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not worth
A A trailering a
A A >A A race
A A >A A A A car for a 1,000 mile trip.
A A >A A A A I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but now
itas
A A looking
A A >A A like
A A >A A A A the Club doesnat care about itas racing contingency,
or about
A A the
A A >A A A A Pantera racing tradition.
A A >A A A A As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and The
Winged
A A >A A Warrior,
A A >A A A A out.
A A >A A A A Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone cares,
but I
A A >A A strongly
A A >A A A A feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day
should be a
A A top
A A >A A A A priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
A A >A A A A Dan Courtney
A A >A A _______________________________________________
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