[DeTomaso] Magnaflux cracks - now what?

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 8 17:18:57 EST 2016


Aren't there folks manufacturing supposedly bulletproof aftermarket Cleveland blocks now? Why are we having this discussion?


Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Magnaflux cracks - now what?

I have not seen the block in person.

Here is a close-up photo provided by the shop.

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> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Larry Weston <lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just curious, now that you know where to look, are the cracks visible?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>
>>  My opinion....  new block.
>>  Those head bolts go into the water jacket as I recall but that's not
>>  the real problem here.  Those are HEAD BOLTS.  So picture this.  The
>>  cracks grow under stress and eventually break a piece free.  Now the
>>  head bolt no longer has sufficient clamping force to the block and more
>>  problems will ensue.
>>  Just me thinking out loud.
>>  Asa
>>  Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
>>
>>  Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>  All,
>>  Magnaflux testing of my original block has shown a total of five cracks
>>  (LH/RH) out of six possible, as shown in the photo below. Cracks are
>>  within the marked white lines.
>>  Cracks are from the water jacket to the head bolt threads. No cracks
>>  running into cylinders.
>>  I had taken note that some of the head bolts showed traces of coolant
>>  on them when removed, but no signs of any rust on any of them.
>>  Planned engine build is 383 or 408 hydraulic roller stroker using Scott
>>  Cook heads and intake with carburetor.
>>  Do those cracks mean the original block is now history?
>>  In 15 years of ownership I have never heard of Cleveland's exhibiting
>>  cracks in this manner.
>>  Seeking the Family's wisdom and advice.
>>  Thanks,
>>  Larry
>>  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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   Aren't there folks manufacturing supposedly bulletproof aftermarket
   Cleveland blocks now? Why are we having this discussion?

   Julian
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:47 PM
   To: Email List Address For Posting
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Magnaflux cracks - now what?

   I have not seen the block in person.
   Here is a close-up photo provided by the shop.
   [cid:f1102012-95ff-42e4-a9d4-a67fdd869500 at namprd18.prod.outlook.com]
   Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
   > On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Larry Weston <lplugw at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Just curious, now that you know where to look, are the cracks
   visible?
   >
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >> On Nov 8, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   wrote:
   >>
   >>  My opinion....  new block.
   >>  Those head bolts go into the water jacket as I recall but that's
   not
   >>  the real problem here.  Those are HEAD BOLTS.  So picture this.
   The
   >>  cracks grow under stress and eventually break a piece free.  Now
   the
   >>  head bolt no longer has sufficient clamping force to the block and
   more
   >>  problems will ensue.
   >>  Just me thinking out loud.
   >>  Asa
   >>  Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
   >>
   >>  Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >>  All,
   >>  Magnaflux testing of my original block has shown a total of five
   cracks
   >>  (LH/RH) out of six possible, as shown in the photo below. Cracks
   are
   >>  within the marked white lines.
   >>  Cracks are from the water jacket to the head bolt threads. No
   cracks
   >>  running into cylinders.
   >>  I had taken note that some of the head bolts showed traces of
   coolant
   >>  on them when removed, but no signs of any rust on any of them.
   >>  Planned engine build is 383 or 408 hydraulic roller stroker using
   Scott
   >>  Cook heads and intake with carburetor.
   >>  Do those cracks mean the original block is now history?
   >>  In 15 years of ownership I have never heard of Cleveland's
   exhibiting
   >>  cracks in this manner.
   >>  Seeking the Family's wisdom and advice.
   >>  Thanks,
   >>  Larry
   >>  Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
   >>  _______________________________________________
   >>  Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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