[DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned ... long and tedious)

mbglobalsc at aol.com mbglobalsc at aol.com
Tue May 31 14:01:41 EDT 2016


Thanks for the input and suggestions Dick, we are on the same page here and I look forward to adding to the success of POCA and increasing the value of being
a member. 
 
We still have a couple of Board members that are coming around to our way of thinking, albeit it slowly, but going in the right direction.
 
Please continue adding your voice to the work we are doing , including listening to our next POCA BOD meeting this next week and critiquing the outcome.

Warmly,

Mike Burnett 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Koch <redcatman74 at gmail.com>
To: mbglobalsc <mbglobalsc at aol.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; laurieferrari <laurieferrari at aol.com>; erichards <erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2016 6:55 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned ... long and tedious)



Mike, nice to see you stepping up and getting ahead of this, with some good suggestions on how to improve the raffle. 
This is a case in point, where the savings that could be had if the newsletter did not have to be printed and mailed, part of those savings could be used to fund some of the more expensive raffle items you mentioned. 
Also, with the elimination of the newsletter printing and mailing expense, color graphics could be included at no expense to the club, improving that publication content and readibility.
In addition, rather than thinking of raising the POCA membership fee, the savings would allow the club to reduce the membership fee, while offering an overall better product to it's customers, the POCA members.. 
In my opinion, for what it is worth, the trade off on discontinuing the printing and mailing of the newsletter versus an improved, more timely, and more efficient online delivery of the publication is obvious. 
The net affect, following the old business marketing axiom of the price elasticity of demand, would be to set the stage for POCA to attract more members, with the obvious affect of increasing the membership, thereby increasing revenue to continue to provide more value add to the membership as a whole, and spreading the "gospel" of the DeTomaso brand.
One thing I believe is that underneath all the comments made about the direction the board is taking the club, is that everyone wants to improve the club,  what it offers it's members, and expand the uniqueness the DeTomaso brand. 
Make no mistake, I have not agreed with certain aspects of the board's plans, more specifically discontinuing this email forum.  I communicated that to the board and told them dropping ownership and support for the forum was a mistake.  
As in the case of "market demand" and the generous efforts of some very dedicated Pantera brethren, the forum was reconstituted. Who knows, maybe the club will decide in the future it should be included under it's banner.
However, dropping this forum did not sway me from supporting the board's overall plan to improve the POCA membership experience. 
Given the premise that everyone wants their club to improve that experience, there comes a time to put aside one's personnel preferences, and to look at "the big picture" and what is in the best interest of the club and the DeTomaso brand.
As before, peace to all my cat brethren, and a closing thought from Abraham Lincoln:
"We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses." 
Dick koch - Atlanta


On May 30, 2016 9:41 PM, "Mike Burnett via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

   Good evening ladies and everyone else on the forum, I would like to
   express some thoughts about the

   raffle during this past Fun Rally.



   As Vice President of POCA it is my responsibility to do many things as
   a Board member, but also be

   the Raffle Master at the Fun Rally.



   In reply to Laurie and Effie's postings, I agree that the raffle has
   considerable room for improvement. And even though

   this was my first POCA Raffle, I have been apart of many Car Shows and
   other big motor car related events that

   included a raffle, but didn't want to reinvent the proverbial wheel by
   changing anything about the way past POCA raffles have been run. As it
   turns out, there were quite a few things that could have helped make it
   run smoother.



   On the one hand I am proud that through my efforts in dealing with our
   vendors and my wife Chrissy

   spending four months hitting crafts fairs and sales ( her budget from
   POCA was challenging) and through

   the generosity of our vendors and many others, we were able to have
   almost $9,000.00 worth of raffle prizes.

   Unfortunately, if you were there, not many of the prizes were bigger
   ticket in value, instead averaging $25.00

   to $40.00 including over 40 T-shirts on top of that. We did have a
   good showing of bigger value items in the $200.00 to $530.00

   valuations.



   Even with a strong showing of raffle prizes and with lots of help from
   Chrissy, Joe Stockstt ( our POCA Secretary)

   Ed Mendez ( our POCA PR and Advertising lead) and even Michael Shortt (
   our POCA President) and myself, the raffle

   went almost an hour and a half in a hot room (no air conditioning)
   after a full day, banquet and cocktails.



   In spite of all our efforts to move things along....I'm sure it seemed
   like the raffle that would never end!



   So, I will present a new plan for the Fun Rally Raffle to the POCA
   Board at our July meeting. It will include

   having a general raffle where tickets will be drawn hourly all day
   Saturday with winning numbers posted.

   Proposing to the Board that we use seed money from POCA to purchase not
   only some big ticket

   prizes ( TV, Blu-ray player and maybe a trip to harbor freight for
   useful tools gauges, etc. that we all could use) but

   maybe some other items of interest like gift cards ( of real value) or
   even plane tickets???



   Who knows, it is all on the table and I am asking for all of you to
   give me some input with your ideas.



   Thanks,



   Mike Burnett

   VP POCA













   -----Original Message-----
   From: Effie Richards <erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
   To: laurieferrari [1]laurieferrari at aol.com who
   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; detomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Mon, May 30, 2016 5:21 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned
   ... long and tedious)
   Thank you so much for saying it so eloquently! Laurie's point of you is
   well laid out and she is a Pantera owner for years and years and a
   member of POCA for the same!
   I would like to agree with her proposed method of awarding the prizes
   as well. Other car shows do it the same way by posting winners ticket
   numbers and no one falls asleep. My husband ushered me out of the room
   halfway through. Although Mike Burnett had a great sense of humor while
   presenting the awards, after an hour or so, Robert could no longer stay
   awake.
   The food was not good, I agree, but that's not the organizers' fault,
   they did the best they could to give all all of us a good time.
   I would like to suggest that we have better organized run events next
   year, with maps, a front leader, a middle leader and a tail leader for
   those who were not able to make the traffic lights, like we offered
   when we hosted in San Diego 2 years ago.
   I think we all learned things from this experience and
   corrections/improvements will be made for next year's rally.
   No matter what, I hope to see mailings of the Profiles since my husband
   and others maybe, don't do email.
   Always remaining members of our POCA club, always!
   Sent from Effie's iPad
   > On May 30, 2016, at 2:14 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hello out there in Pantera Email Forum Land. Huge thanks to Kurt as I
   > am another who has always loved our communication in this way.
   > For anyone who might be confused, just to be clear, I'm Laurie
   Basile/
   > aka Laurie Ferrari on here as that's my email name. I'm one in the
   > same in case you are looking up any of my old postings in the
   archives,
   > which I don't advise.
   > I have some of my own thoughts on the new status of POCA.
   > While there's no question that a stock, unmodified, unmolested
   Pantera
   > is a rare and specially revered item, however the Pantera Club (POCA)
   > and its Website is not to be confused with that same logic. The Club
   > has needed modifications for far too long, most notably
   reconsideration
   > of modernization and efforts to offer more to the members, and the
   > opening of paths that were forever encumbered with roadblocks.
   > I think the main beef of the many members/lurkers who have been
   > complaining of late is due to the possible loss of the email forum.
   > Yes? Or, some perhaps are not used to the no nonsense, energetic,
   > assertive, personality of Michael Shortt. Well, as board meetings
   have
   > been open to members I must say I was truly shocked at the rude and
   > unprofessional demeanor of some of the oldest of Board Members. And
   > those on here who are seeking fault and trying to paint a negative
   > picture of the new direction of POCA, I say, if any of you are
   > so touchy and hypersensitive, you'd not have been able to tolerate
   the
   > myriads of posted comments through the years that could be considered
   > the most non politically correct on here and greatest examples of
   > taunts and tongue in cheek comments on everything from gayness, to
   > racial and political insults, or the worst (personally offensive) the
   > wing modifications on GT5 Panteras. ... Come on folks. What I see
   > that is happening is that Mike Shortt's vision and those of the
   > progressive Board members is one that many have begged for. That
   being
   > one of a more professionally represented, respectable club (except
   for
   > our more private, less respectable ramblings on here) one that's more
   > of a Class Act rather than a knitting party, and more representative
   of
   > the rarity and beauty of our cars, the wealth of knowledge
   > and expertise of our members, and the generosity, helpfulness, and
   > camaraderie of our people. I'd say Michael sees and is enacting,
   > remember....with Board and Chapter Representative approval, a vision
   of
   > the possibilities and potential of our organization to be more
   > transparent as to the inner workings of major POCA decisions. Those
   in
   > the know can not argue about the fact that this has been something
   > sorely lacking in the past with regard to political issues, election
   > fairness, and finances, i.e. comparative shopping for our needs,
   > insurance, printing and so on.
   > For the few to make suggestions or even comments that Mr. Shortt is a
   > bigot or the usual gay comments from the peanut gallery.... shame
   > on you! Those comments are just as untrue and inappropriate as
   they've
   > ever been on here. But we grin and bare it and realize any such past
   > comments would never be posted if serious. Or those who make such
   > comments can look up the definition of "Psychological transference."
   I
   > personally think a "Thank You" is far more appropriate for all the
   > time, effort, and changes Michael is trying to implement! When the
   word
   > went out that races were wanted at the Fun Rally, the first thing I
   > recall he did was make contact and plans for such. It's ridiculous
   and
   > unacceptable for anyone to be rude and insulting to those doing their
   > best to help us have a better organization.
   > I recently renewed my membership which I feel would be great if it
   was
   > reduced a bit in cost (as it used to be) as I'd like the option to
   get
   > only the "Profiles Magazine" in print form.. the Newsletter is
   > perfectly suited for an online reference... (again, my opinion) and
   > which I seem to hear would save the club something like $26,000 a
   > year. On our new POCA Website I am able to look up old articles in
   > Profiles... especially enjoy the ease of being able to find ones
   about
   > my car and me, issue 2010 #1, and my SSCC synopsis, in 2000, #3.
   That's
   > a whole lot easier than searching my own computer room and closet
   > filled with years old multi-curricular lesson plans and old
   > publications from POCA, and three other car clubs. I really love the
   > idea of these publications being available ON LINE; it is quite
   modern
   > and convenient.
   > Insofar as the survey regarding POCA's Fun Rally...As always there
   were
   > goods and not so goods. The good, naturally, is getting to see and
   > socialize with old friends and meet new ones. The bad is that the
   Plaza
   > remains to be, not the most appealing of choices. I don't know about
   > the new furnishings but I do know that the entire floor where the
   > hospitality and banquet was held was covered in sheets over the
   > construction and warnings of potential injury....I kind of felt early
   > on that it'd be a good idea, as a few others, to opt to stay at the
   > Golden Nugget. It's right across the street and very nice! As usual
   > though, at our event, the hospitality room opportunity with all the
   > Club stores was and is always great. The sessions, especially Scott
   > Mead's photography session was more than excellent. The run to Mt.
   > Charles was beautiful. I didn't have a car there so I was so grateful
   > to Lori Drew who hooked me up with a ride with a super nice fellow
   from
   > PCNC, Bayani; many thanks Bayani! The banquet food was something I'm
   > unable to compare easily as to the awfulness compared to any past Fun
   > Rally. The Plaza buffets were generally decent in the past, even used
   > to get a bottle of red and white wine on each table, but something
   > definitely went amiss this year. As I was seated at a table with
   Terry
   > Himes (Mars' space scientist) and friends, the best way to describe
   the
   > salmon was freeze dried and suitable (almost) as astronaut food. The
   > water was undrinkable, maybe tainted with some alien creatures, toxic
   > chemicals, or poisoned purposefully so people would buy liquor during
   > the banquet. Dessert, can't comment, didn't try. The raffle... well
   > that's yet another story! I've been the one in the past who once had
   > the job of recruiting prizes for months, organizing the displays,
   > getting everything to Vegas, and then announcing the prizes at
   > the dinner and I vividly recall being reprimanded for how long it
   took
   > to disseminate prizes at the banquet ... BUT...in good fairness to
   me,
   > i took a fraction of what happened this year.. which was in ponderous
   > tortoise-like, multi-hours long, motion, so much to the fact that I
   > literally made up for the previous two nights of lost sleep. I mean
   > really, for hundreds of prizes from a few really nice car related,
   > down to insignificant, and each prize announced in humorous but
   mostly
   > painful detail ... down to a slew of t-shirts, one by one... and then
   > waiting for the comatose winner to notice or be nudged awake that he
   or
   > she'd won and then have to walk what seemed like 3 blocks to the
   podium
   > to claim the prize... Good Lord! And I don't blame the presenter as I
   > know what a difficult and commendable job this is.. it's the SYSTEM,
   > not the person! I know many of you like to poke fun at the Corvette
   > Clan but .... the way they've done raffles, at least the National
   > ones, is to post a list of winning tickets #s and during the event,
   > people go over periodically to see if they won, and get the prize
   from
   > those in charge. Or those so inclined can stay at the prize area and
   > watch the tickets being drawn. All the contributors are posted in
   > advance and the donors are thanked and acknowledged on banners,
   signs,
   > visuals, business cards, etc. There's always music and dancing and
   > some sort of entertainment. We used to have music, karaoke, and
   > entertainment. What happened???
   > So in conclusion, I like both the old (forum) and the new (POCA) and
   > hope that people will be more cordial and appreciative of the efforts
   > of Michael and those who work for us.
   > Again much gratitude to Kurt and all involved for the Forum being
   alive
   > and well. I am not in favor of the fact though that I very recently
   > got a malicious malware bug that caused me to wipe out my
   > entire computer... and start over, not saying it was from here.. BUT
   > I've never had that problem before and I did have an excellent
   Internet
   > security program installed. So I write with hopes that the risks are
   > not found here!
   > Can't leave without a big hello to Nathan of the North. Always
   > great to hear from you and see your uplifting greetings. And to Bob
   > Levitt...hope you remember me as I was out there on the Santa Monica
   > pier to take pictures of you and your son upon your take
   > off for the Gumball Cross Country race way back when. Still have them
   > saved somewhere and they were on my former POCA album. Btw where are
   > those albums?
   > OK.... off and running and just might see lots of you at Pantera
   > Palooza!
   > Cheerio,
   > Laurie
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   Thanks for the input and suggestions Dick, we are on the same page here
   and I look forward to adding to the success of POCA and increasing the
   value of being

   a member.



   We still have a couple of Board members that are coming around to our
   way of thinking, albeit it slowly, but going in the right direction.



   Please continue adding your voice to the work we are doing , including
   listening to our next POCA BOD meeting this next week and critiquing
   the outcome.



   Warmly,



   Mike Burnett





   -----Original Message-----
   From: Dick Koch <redcatman74 at gmail.com>
   To: mbglobalsc <mbglobalsc at aol.com>
   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; laurieferrari
   <laurieferrari at aol.com>; erichards <erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>;
   detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Tue, May 31, 2016 6:55 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned
   ... long and tedious)
   Mike, nice to see you stepping up and getting ahead of this, with some
   good suggestions on how to improve the raffle.
   This is a case in point, where the savings that could be had if the
   newsletter did not have to be printed and mailed, part of those savings
   could be used to fund some of the more expensive raffle items you
   mentioned.
   Also, with the elimination of the newsletter printing and mailing
   expense, color graphics could be included at no expense to the club,
   improving that publication content and readibility.
   In addition, rather than thinking of raising the POCA membership fee,
   the savings would allow the club to reduce the membership fee, while
   offering an overall better product to it's customers, the POCA
   members..
   In my opinion, for what it is worth, the trade off on discontinuing the
   printing and mailing of the newsletter versus an improved, more timely,
   and more efficient online delivery of the publication is obvious.
   The net affect, following the old business marketing axiom of the price
   elasticity of demand, would be to set the stage for POCA to attract
   more members, with the obvious affect of increasing the membership,
   thereby increasing revenue to continue to provide more value add to the
   membership as a whole, and spreading the "gospel" of the DeTomaso
   brand.
   One thing I believe is that underneath all the comments made about the
   direction the board is taking the club, is that everyone wants to
   improve the club,  what it offers it's members, and expand the
   uniqueness the DeTomaso brand.
   Make no mistake, I have not agreed with certain aspects of the board's
   plans, more specifically discontinuing this email forum.  I
   communicated that to the board and told them dropping ownership and
   support for the forum was a mistake.
   As in the case of "market demand" and the generous efforts of some very
   dedicated Pantera brethren, the forum was reconstituted. Who knows,
   maybe the club will decide in the future it should be included under
   it's banner.
   However, dropping this forum did not sway me from supporting the
   board's overall plan to improve the POCA membership experience.
   Given the premise that everyone wants their club to improve that
   experience, there comes a time to put aside one's personnel
   preferences, and to look at "the big picture" and what is in the best
   interest of the club and the DeTomaso brand.
   As before, peace to all my cat brethren, and a closing thought from
   Abraham Lincoln:
   "We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because
   thorn bushes have roses."
   Dick koch - Atlanta
   On May 30, 2016 9:41 PM, "Mike Burnett via DeTomaso"
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

        Good evening ladies and everyone else on the forum, I would like
     to
        express some thoughts about the
        raffle during this past Fun Rally.
        As Vice President of POCA it is my responsibility to do many
     things as
        a Board member, but also be
        the Raffle Master at the Fun Rally.
        In reply to Laurie and Effie's postings, I agree that the raffle
     has
        considerable room for improvement. And even though
        this was my first POCA Raffle, I have been apart of many Car
     Shows and
        other big motor car related events that
        included a raffle, but didn't want to reinvent the proverbial
     wheel by
        changing anything about the way past POCA raffles have been run.
     As it
        turns out, there were quite a few things that could have helped
     make it
        run smoother.
        On the one hand I am proud that through my efforts in dealing
     with our
        vendors and my wife Chrissy
        spending four months hitting crafts fairs and sales ( her budget
     from
        POCA was challenging) and through
        the generosity of our vendors and many others, we were able to
     have
        almost $9,000.00 worth of raffle prizes.
        Unfortunately, if you were there, not many of the prizes were
     bigger
        ticket in value, instead averaging $25.00
        to $40.00 including over 40 T-shirts on top of that. We did have
     a
        good showing of bigger value items in the $200.00 to $530.00
        valuations.
        Even with a strong showing of raffle prizes and with lots of help
     from
        Chrissy, Joe Stockstt ( our POCA Secretary)
        Ed Mendez ( our POCA PR and Advertising lead) and even Michael
     Shortt (
        our POCA President) and myself, the raffle
        went almost an hour and a half in a hot room (no air
     conditioning)
        after a full day, banquet and cocktails.
        In spite of all our efforts to move things along....I'm sure it
     seemed
        like the raffle that would never end!
        So, I will present a new plan for the Fun Rally Raffle to the
     POCA
        Board at our July meeting. It will include
        having a general raffle where tickets will be drawn hourly all
     day
        Saturday with winning numbers posted.
        Proposing to the Board that we use seed money from POCA to
     purchase not
        only some big ticket
        prizes ( TV, Blu-ray player and maybe a trip to harbor freight
     for
        useful tools gauges, etc. that we all could use) but
        maybe some other items of interest like gift cards ( of real
     value) or
        even plane tickets???
        Who knows, it is all on the table and I am asking for all of you
     to
        give me some input with your ideas.
        Thanks,
        Mike Burnett
        VP POCA
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Effie Richards <[2]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
        To: laurieferrari [1][3]laurieferrari at aol.com who
        Cc: detomaso <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; detomaso
        <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
        Sent: Mon, May 30, 2016 5:21 pm
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be
     warned
        ... long and tedious)
        Thank you so much for saying it so eloquently! Laurie's point of
     you is
        well laid out and she is a Pantera owner for years and years and
     a
        member of POCA for the same!
        I would like to agree with her proposed method of awarding the
     prizes
        as well. Other car shows do it the same way by posting winners
     ticket
        numbers and no one falls asleep. My husband ushered me out of the
     room
        halfway through. Although Mike Burnett had a great sense of humor
     while
        presenting the awards, after an hour or so, Robert could no
     longer stay
        awake.
        The food was not good, I agree, but that's not the organizers'
     fault,
        they did the best they could to give all all of us a good time.
        I would like to suggest that we have better organized run events
     next
        year, with maps, a front leader, a middle leader and a tail
     leader for
        those who were not able to make the traffic lights, like we
     offered
        when we hosted in San Diego 2 years ago.
        I think we all learned things from this experience and
        corrections/improvements will be made for next year's rally.
        No matter what, I hope to see mailings of the Profiles since my
     husband
        and others maybe, don't do email.
        Always remaining members of our POCA club, always!
        Sent from Effie's iPad
        > On May 30, 2016, at 2:14 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
        <[2][6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
        >
        > Hello out there in Pantera Email Forum Land. Huge thanks to
     Kurt as I
        > am another who has always loved our communication in this way.
        > For anyone who might be confused, just to be clear, I'm Laurie
        Basile/
        > aka Laurie Ferrari on here as that's my email name. I'm one in
     the
        > same in case you are looking up any of my old postings in the
        archives,
        > which I don't advise.
        > I have some of my own thoughts on the new status of POCA.
        > While there's no question that a stock, unmodified, unmolested
        Pantera
        > is a rare and specially revered item, however the Pantera Club
     (POCA)
        > and its Website is not to be confused with that same logic. The
     Club
        > has needed modifications for far too long, most notably
        reconsideration
        > of modernization and efforts to offer more to the members, and
     the
        > opening of paths that were forever encumbered with roadblocks.
        > I think the main beef of the many members/lurkers who have been
        > complaining of late is due to the possible loss of the email
     forum.
        > Yes? Or, some perhaps are not used to the no nonsense,
     energetic,
        > assertive, personality of Michael Shortt. Well, as board
     meetings
        have
        > been open to members I must say I was truly shocked at the rude
     and
        > unprofessional demeanor of some of the oldest of Board Members.
     And
        > those on here who are seeking fault and trying to paint a
     negative
        > picture of the new direction of POCA, I say, if any of you are
        > so touchy and hypersensitive, you'd not have been able to
     tolerate
        the
        > myriads of posted comments through the years that could be
     considered
        > the most non politically correct on here and greatest examples
     of
        > taunts and tongue in cheek comments on everything from gayness,
     to
        > racial and political insults, or the worst (personally
     offensive) the
        > wing modifications on GT5 Panteras. ... Come on folks. What I
     see
        > that is happening is that Mike Shortt's vision and those of the
        > progressive Board members is one that many have begged for.
     That
        being
        > one of a more professionally represented, respectable club
     (except
        for
        > our more private, less respectable ramblings on here) one
     that's more
        > of a Class Act rather than a knitting party, and more
     representative
        of
        > the rarity and beauty of our cars, the wealth of knowledge
        > and expertise of our members, and the generosity, helpfulness,
     and
        > camaraderie of our people. I'd say Michael sees and is
     enacting,
        > remember....with Board and Chapter Representative approval, a
     vision
        of
        > the possibilities and potential of our organization to be more
        > transparent as to the inner workings of major POCA decisions.
     Those
        in
        > the know can not argue about the fact that this has been
     something
        > sorely lacking in the past with regard to political issues,
     election
        > fairness, and finances, i.e. comparative shopping for our
     needs,
        > insurance, printing and so on.
        > For the few to make suggestions or even comments that Mr.
     Shortt is a
        > bigot or the usual gay comments from the peanut gallery....
     shame
        > on you! Those comments are just as untrue and inappropriate as
        they've
        > ever been on here. But we grin and bare it and realize any such
     past
        > comments would never be posted if serious. Or those who make
     such
        > comments can look up the definition of "Psychological
     transference."
        I
        > personally think a "Thank You" is far more appropriate for all
     the
        > time, effort, and changes Michael is trying to implement! When
     the
        word
        > went out that races were wanted at the Fun Rally, the first
     thing I
        > recall he did was make contact and plans for such. It's
     ridiculous
        and
        > unacceptable for anyone to be rude and insulting to those doing
     their
        > best to help us have a better organization.
        > I recently renewed my membership which I feel would be great if
     it
        was
        > reduced a bit in cost (as it used to be) as I'd like the option
     to
        get
        > only the "Profiles Magazine" in print form.. the Newsletter is
        > perfectly suited for an online reference... (again, my opinion)
     and
        > which I seem to hear would save the club something like $26,000
     a
        > year. On our new POCA Website I am able to look up old articles
     in
        > Profiles... especially enjoy the ease of being able to find
     ones
        about
        > my car and me, issue 2010 #1, and my SSCC synopsis, in 2000,
     #3.
        That's
        > a whole lot easier than searching my own computer room and
     closet
        > filled with years old multi-curricular lesson plans and old
        > publications from POCA, and three other car clubs. I really
     love the
        > idea of these publications being available ON LINE; it is quite
        modern
        > and convenient.
        > Insofar as the survey regarding POCA's Fun Rally...As always
     there
        were
        > goods and not so goods. The good, naturally, is getting to see
     and
        > socialize with old friends and meet new ones. The bad is that
     the
        Plaza
        > remains to be, not the most appealing of choices. I don't know
     about
        > the new furnishings but I do know that the entire floor where
     the
        > hospitality and banquet was held was covered in sheets over the
        > construction and warnings of potential injury....I kind of felt
     early
        > on that it'd be a good idea, as a few others, to opt to stay at
     the
        > Golden Nugget. It's right across the street and very nice! As
     usual
        > though, at our event, the hospitality room opportunity with all
     the
        > Club stores was and is always great. The sessions, especially
     Scott
        > Mead's photography session was more than excellent. The run to
     Mt.
        > Charles was beautiful. I didn't have a car there so I was so
     grateful
        > to Lori Drew who hooked me up with a ride with a super nice
     fellow
        from
        > PCNC, Bayani; many thanks Bayani! The banquet food was
     something I'm
        > unable to compare easily as to the awfulness compared to any
     past Fun
        > Rally. The Plaza buffets were generally decent in the past,
     even used
        > to get a bottle of red and white wine on each table, but
     something
        > definitely went amiss this year. As I was seated at a table
     with
        Terry
        > Himes (Mars' space scientist) and friends, the best way to
     describe
        the
        > salmon was freeze dried and suitable (almost) as astronaut
     food. The
        > water was undrinkable, maybe tainted with some alien creatures,
     toxic
        > chemicals, or poisoned purposefully so people would buy liquor
     during
        > the banquet. Dessert, can't comment, didn't try. The raffle...
     well
        > that's yet another story! I've been the one in the past who
     once had
        > the job of recruiting prizes for months, organizing the
     displays,
        > getting everything to Vegas, and then announcing the prizes at
        > the dinner and I vividly recall being reprimanded for how long
     it
        took
        > to disseminate prizes at the banquet ... BUT...in good fairness
     to
        me,
        > i took a fraction of what happened this year.. which was in
     ponderous
        > tortoise-like, multi-hours long, motion, so much to the fact
     that I
        > literally made up for the previous two nights of lost sleep. I
     mean
        > really, for hundreds of prizes from a few really nice car
     related,
        > down to insignificant, and each prize announced in humorous but
        mostly
        > painful detail ... down to a slew of t-shirts, one by one...
     and then
        > waiting for the comatose winner to notice or be nudged awake
     that he
        or
        > she'd won and then have to walk what seemed like 3 blocks to
     the
        podium
        > to claim the prize... Good Lord! And I don't blame the
     presenter as I
        > know what a difficult and commendable job this is.. it's the
     SYSTEM,
        > not the person! I know many of you like to poke fun at the
     Corvette
        > Clan but .... the way they've done raffles, at least the
     National
        > ones, is to post a list of winning tickets #s and during the
     event,
        > people go over periodically to see if they won, and get the
     prize
        from
        > those in charge. Or those so inclined can stay at the prize
     area and
        > watch the tickets being drawn. All the contributors are posted
     in
        > advance and the donors are thanked and acknowledged on banners,
        signs,
        > visuals, business cards, etc. There's always music and dancing
     and
        > some sort of entertainment. We used to have music, karaoke, and
        > entertainment. What happened???
        > So in conclusion, I like both the old (forum) and the new
     (POCA) and
        > hope that people will be more cordial and appreciative of the
     efforts
        > of Michael and those who work for us.
        > Again much gratitude to Kurt and all involved for the Forum
     being
        alive
        > and well. I am not in favor of the fact though that I very
     recently
        > got a malicious malware bug that caused me to wipe out my
        > entire computer... and start over, not saying it was from
     here.. BUT
        > I've never had that problem before and I did have an excellent
        Internet
        > security program installed. So I write with hopes that the
     risks are
        > not found here!
        > Can't leave without a big hello to Nathan of the North. Always
        > great to hear from you and see your uplifting greetings. And to
     Bob
        > Levitt...hope you remember me as I was out there on the Santa
     Monica
        > pier to take pictures of you and your son upon your take
        > off for the Gumball Cross Country race way back when. Still
     have them
        > saved somewhere and they were on my former POCA album. Btw
     where are
        > those albums?
        > OK.... off and running and just might see lots of you at
     Pantera
        > Palooza!
        > Cheerio,
        > Laurie
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