[DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned ... long and tedious)
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Mon May 30 12:04:07 EDT 2016
Did you mean "Nolan of the North"? aka Nolan Scheid
From: Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 2:14 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned ... long and tedious)
Hello out there in Pantera Email Forum Land. Huge thanks to Kurt as I
am another who has always loved our communication in this way.
For anyone who might be confused, just to be clear, I'm Laurie Basile/
aka Laurie Ferrari on here as that's my email name. I'm one in the
same in case you are looking up any of my old postings in the archives,
which I don't advise.
I have some of my own thoughts on the new status of POCA.
While there's no question that a stock, unmodified, unmolested Pantera
is a rare and specially revered item, however the Pantera Club (POCA)
and its Website is not to be confused with that same logic. The Club
has needed modifications for far too long, most notably reconsideration
of modernization and efforts to offer more to the members, and the
opening of paths that were forever encumbered with roadblocks.
I think the main beef of the many members/lurkers who have been
complaining of late is due to the possible loss of the email forum.
Yes? Or, some perhaps are not used to the no nonsense, energetic,
assertive, personality of Michael Shortt. Well, as board meetings have
been open to members I must say I was truly shocked at the rude and
unprofessional demeanor of some of the oldest of Board Members. And
those on here who are seeking fault and trying to paint a negative
picture of the new direction of POCA, I say, if any of you are
so touchy and hypersensitive, you'd not have been able to tolerate the
myriads of posted comments through the years that could be considered
the most non politically correct on here and greatest examples of
taunts and tongue in cheek comments on everything from gayness, to
racial and political insults, or the worst (personally offensive) the
wing modifications on GT5 Panteras. ... Come on folks. What I see
that is happening is that Mike Shortt's vision and those of the
progressive Board members is one that many have begged for. That being
one of a more professionally represented, respectable club (except for
our more private, less respectable ramblings on here) one that's more
of a Class Act rather than a knitting party, and more representative of
the rarity and beauty of our cars, the wealth of knowledge
and expertise of our members, and the generosity, helpfulness, and
camaraderie of our people. I'd say Michael sees and is enacting,
remember....with Board and Chapter Representative approval, a vision of
the possibilities and potential of our organization to be more
transparent as to the inner workings of major POCA decisions. Those in
the know can not argue about the fact that this has been something
sorely lacking in the past with regard to political issues, election
fairness, and finances, i.e. comparative shopping for our needs,
insurance, printing and so on.
For the few to make suggestions or even comments that Mr. Shortt is a
bigot or the usual gay comments from the peanut gallery.... shame
on you! Those comments are just as untrue and inappropriate as they've
ever been on here. But we grin and bare it and realize any such past
comments would never be posted if serious. Or those who make such
comments can look up the definition of "Psychological transference." I
personally think a "Thank You" is far more appropriate for all the
time, effort, and changes Michael is trying to implement! When the word
went out that races were wanted at the Fun Rally, the first thing I
recall he did was make contact and plans for such. It's ridiculous and
unacceptable for anyone to be rude and insulting to those doing their
best to help us have a better organization.
I recently renewed my membership which I feel would be great if it was
reduced a bit in cost (as it used to be) as I'd like the option to get
only the "Profiles Magazine" in print form.. the Newsletter is
perfectly suited for an online reference... (again, my opinion) and
which I seem to hear would save the club something like $26,000 a
year. On our new POCA Website I am able to look up old articles in
Profiles... especially enjoy the ease of being able to find ones about
my car and me, issue 2010 #1, and my SSCC synopsis, in 2000, #3. That's
a whole lot easier than searching my own computer room and closet
filled with years old multi-curricular lesson plans and old
publications from POCA, and three other car clubs. I really love the
idea of these publications being available ON LINE; it is quite modern
and convenient.
Insofar as the survey regarding POCA's Fun Rally...As always there were
goods and not so goods. The good, naturally, is getting to see and
socialize with old friends and meet new ones. The bad is that the Plaza
remains to be, not the most appealing of choices. I don't know about
the new furnishings but I do know that the entire floor where the
hospitality and banquet was held was covered in sheets over the
construction and warnings of potential injury....I kind of felt early
on that it'd be a good idea, as a few others, to opt to stay at the
Golden Nugget. It's right across the street and very nice! As usual
though, at our event, the hospitality room opportunity with all the
Club stores was and is always great. The sessions, especially Scott
Mead's photography session was more than excellent. The run to Mt.
Charles was beautiful. I didn't have a car there so I was so grateful
to Lori Drew who hooked me up with a ride with a super nice fellow from
PCNC, Bayani; many thanks Bayani! The banquet food was something I'm
unable to compare easily as to the awfulness compared to any past Fun
Rally. The Plaza buffets were generally decent in the past, even used
to get a bottle of red and white wine on each table, but something
definitely went amiss this year. As I was seated at a table with Terry
Himes (Mars' space scientist) and friends, the best way to describe the
salmon was freeze dried and suitable (almost) as astronaut food. The
water was undrinkable, maybe tainted with some alien creatures, toxic
chemicals, or poisoned purposefully so people would buy liquor during
the banquet. Dessert, can't comment, didn't try. The raffle... well
that's yet another story! I've been the one in the past who once had
the job of recruiting prizes for months, organizing the displays,
getting everything to Vegas, and then announcing the prizes at
the dinner and I vividly recall being reprimanded for how long it took
to disseminate prizes at the banquet ... BUT...in good fairness to me,
i took a fraction of what happened this year.. which was in ponderous
tortoise-like, multi-hours long, motion, so much to the fact that I
literally made up for the previous two nights of lost sleep. I mean
really, for hundreds of prizes from a few really nice car related,
down to insignificant, and each prize announced in humorous but mostly
painful detail ... down to a slew of t-shirts, one by one... and then
waiting for the comatose winner to notice or be nudged awake that he or
she'd won and then have to walk what seemed like 3 blocks to the podium
to claim the prize... Good Lord! And I don't blame the presenter as I
know what a difficult and commendable job this is.. it's the SYSTEM,
not the person! I know many of you like to poke fun at the Corvette
Clan but .... the way they've done raffles, at least the National
ones, is to post a list of winning tickets #s and during the event,
people go over periodically to see if they won, and get the prize from
those in charge. Or those so inclined can stay at the prize area and
watch the tickets being drawn. All the contributors are posted in
advance and the donors are thanked and acknowledged on banners, signs,
visuals, business cards, etc. There's always music and dancing and
some sort of entertainment. We used to have music, karaoke, and
entertainment. What happened???
So in conclusion, I like both the old (forum) and the new (POCA) and
hope that people will be more cordial and appreciative of the efforts
of Michael and those who work for us.
Again much gratitude to Kurt and all involved for the Forum being alive
and well. I am not in favor of the fact though that I very recently
got a malicious malware bug that caused me to wipe out my
entire computer... and start over, not saying it was from here.. BUT
I've never had that problem before and I did have an excellent Internet
security program installed. So I write with hopes that the risks are
not found here!
Can't leave without a big hello to Nathan of the North. Always
great to hear from you and see your uplifting greetings. And to Bob
Levitt...hope you remember me as I was out there on the Santa Monica
pier to take pictures of you and your son upon your take
off for the Gumball Cross Country race way back when. Still have them
saved somewhere and they were on my former POCA album. Btw where are
those albums?
OK.... off and running and just might see lots of you at Pantera
Palooza!
Cheerio,
Laurie
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From: Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 2:14 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Laurie's vision of current topics (be warned ...
long and tedious)
Hello out there in Pantera Email Forum Land. Huge thanks to Kurt as
I
am another who has always loved our communication in this way.
For anyone who might be confused, just to be clear, I'm Laurie
Basile/
aka Laurie Ferrari on here as that's my email name. I'm one in the
same in case you are looking up any of my old postings in the
archives,
which I don't advise.
I have some of my own thoughts on the new status of POCA.
While there's no question that a stock, unmodified, unmolested
Pantera
is a rare and specially revered item, however the Pantera Club (POCA)
and its Website is not to be confused with that same logic. The Club
has needed modifications for far too long, most notably
reconsideration
of modernization and efforts to offer more to the members, and the
opening of paths that were forever encumbered with roadblocks.
I think the main beef of the many members/lurkers who have been
complaining of late is due to the possible loss of the email forum.
Yes? Or, some perhaps are not used to the no nonsense, energetic,
assertive, personality of Michael Shortt. Well, as board meetings
have
been open to members I must say I was truly shocked at the rude and
unprofessional demeanor of some of the oldest of Board Members. And
those on here who are seeking fault and trying to paint a negative
picture of the new direction of POCA, I say, if any of you are
so touchy and hypersensitive, you'd not have been able to tolerate
the
myriads of posted comments through the years that could be considered
the most non politically correct on here and greatest examples of
taunts and tongue in cheek comments on everything from gayness, to
racial and political insults, or the worst (personally offensive) the
wing modifications on GT5 Panteras. ... Come on folks. What I see
that is happening is that Mike Shortt's vision and those of the
progressive Board members is one that many have begged for. That
being
one of a more professionally represented, respectable club (except
for
our more private, less respectable ramblings on here) one that's more
of a Class Act rather than a knitting party, and more representative
of
the rarity and beauty of our cars, the wealth of knowledge
and expertise of our members, and the generosity, helpfulness, and
camaraderie of our people. I'd say Michael sees and is enacting,
remember....with Board and Chapter Representative approval, a vision
of
the possibilities and potential of our organization to be more
transparent as to the inner workings of major POCA decisions. Those
in
the know can not argue about the fact that this has been something
sorely lacking in the past with regard to political issues, election
fairness, and finances, i.e. comparative shopping for our needs,
insurance, printing and so on.
For the few to make suggestions or even comments that Mr. Shortt is a
bigot or the usual gay comments from the peanut gallery.... shame
on you! Those comments are just as untrue and inappropriate as
they've
ever been on here. But we grin and bare it and realize any such past
comments would never be posted if serious. Or those who make such
comments can look up the definition of "Psychological transference."
I
personally think a "Thank You" is far more appropriate for all the
time, effort, and changes Michael is trying to implement! When the
word
went out that races were wanted at the Fun Rally, the first thing I
recall he did was make contact and plans for such. It's ridiculous
and
unacceptable for anyone to be rude and insulting to those doing their
best to help us have a better organization.
I recently renewed my membership which I feel would be great if it
was
reduced a bit in cost (as it used to be) as I'd like the option to
get
only the "Profiles Magazine" in print form.. the Newsletter is
perfectly suited for an online reference... (again, my opinion) and
which I seem to hear would save the club something like $26,000 a
year. On our new POCA Website I am able to look up old articles in
Profiles... especially enjoy the ease of being able to find ones
about
my car and me, issue 2010 #1, and my SSCC synopsis, in 2000, #3.
That's
a whole lot easier than searching my own computer room and closet
filled with years old multi-curricular lesson plans and old
publications from POCA, and three other car clubs. I really love the
idea of these publications being available ON LINE; it is quite
modern
and convenient.
Insofar as the survey regarding POCA's Fun Rally...As always there
were
goods and not so goods. The good, naturally, is getting to see and
socialize with old friends and meet new ones. The bad is that the
Plaza
remains to be, not the most appealing of choices. I don't know about
the new furnishings but I do know that the entire floor where the
hospitality and banquet was held was covered in sheets over the
construction and warnings of potential injury....I kind of felt early
on that it'd be a good idea, as a few others, to opt to stay at the
Golden Nugget. It's right across the street and very nice! As usual
though, at our event, the hospitality room opportunity with all the
Club stores was and is always great. The sessions, especially Scott
Mead's photography session was more than excellent. The run to Mt.
Charles was beautiful. I didn't have a car there so I was so grateful
to Lori Drew who hooked me up with a ride with a super nice fellow
from
PCNC, Bayani; many thanks Bayani! The banquet food was something I'm
unable to compare easily as to the awfulness compared to any past Fun
Rally. The Plaza buffets were generally decent in the past, even used
to get a bottle of red and white wine on each table, but something
definitely went amiss this year. As I was seated at a table with
Terry
Himes (Mars' space scientist) and friends, the best way to describe
the
salmon was freeze dried and suitable (almost) as astronaut food. The
water was undrinkable, maybe tainted with some alien creatures, toxic
chemicals, or poisoned purposefully so people would buy liquor during
the banquet. Dessert, can't comment, didn't try. The raffle... well
that's yet another story! I've been the one in the past who once had
the job of recruiting prizes for months, organizing the displays,
getting everything to Vegas, and then announcing the prizes at
the dinner and I vividly recall being reprimanded for how long it
took
to disseminate prizes at the banquet ... BUT...in good fairness to
me,
i took a fraction of what happened this year.. which was in ponderous
tortoise-like, multi-hours long, motion, so much to the fact that I
literally made up for the previous two nights of lost sleep. I mean
really, for hundreds of prizes from a few really nice car related,
down to insignificant, and each prize announced in humorous but
mostly
painful detail ... down to a slew of t-shirts, one by one... and then
waiting for the comatose winner to notice or be nudged awake that he
or
she'd won and then have to walk what seemed like 3 blocks to the
podium
to claim the prize... Good Lord! And I don't blame the presenter as
I
know what a difficult and commendable job this is.. it's the SYSTEM,
not the person! I know many of you like to poke fun at the Corvette
Clan but .... the way they've done raffles, at least the National
ones, is to post a list of winning tickets #s and during the event,
people go over periodically to see if they won, and get the prize
from
those in charge. Or those so inclined can stay at the prize area and
watch the tickets being drawn. All the contributors are posted in
advance and the donors are thanked and acknowledged on banners,
signs,
visuals, business cards, etc. There's always music and dancing and
some sort of entertainment. We used to have music, karaoke, and
entertainment. What happened???
So in conclusion, I like both the old (forum) and the new (POCA) and
hope that people will be more cordial and appreciative of the efforts
of Michael and those who work for us.
Again much gratitude to Kurt and all involved for the Forum being
alive
and well. I am not in favor of the fact though that I very recently
got a malicious malware bug that caused me to wipe out my
entire computer... and start over, not saying it was from here.. BUT
I've never had that problem before and I did have an excellent
Internet
security program installed. So I write with hopes that the risks are
not found here!
Can't leave without a big hello to Nathan of the North. Always
great to hear from you and see your uplifting greetings. And to Bob
Levitt...hope you remember me as I was out there on the Santa Monica
pier to take pictures of you and your son upon your take
off for the Gumball Cross Country race way back when. Still have them
saved somewhere and they were on my former POCA album. Btw where are
those albums?
OK.... off and running and just might see lots of you at Pantera
Palooza!
Cheerio,
Laurie
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