[DeTomaso] POCA Membership Dues Analysis

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Sun May 29 00:13:17 EDT 2016 

Will, thank you for your comments. I think a lot of us think the same way; just unfortunate that someone else thinks otherwise. 


I haven't figured out how going to color in the Newsletter is going to save money; that normally costs more. Considering going with a cheaper printer is asking for trouble as it will produce a cheaper product; currently we have a very good printer who works with us greatly.


Judy



-----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: cuvee <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>; Rod Kunishige <rkunishige at hotmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2016 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Membership Dues Analysis

If POCA wants to know, they should ask when people don¹t renew.

I think the rebate is a good thing.  Most of the POCA events are going to
be local anyway - club meetings, tech sessions, drives, track days,
cookouts, etc.  This helps build the local clubs, plus it gives people
more reason to join.

I think making the newsletter color is a waste, though.  There¹s nothing
wrong with the newsletter the way it is.


On 5/28/16, 3:32 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of cuvee"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>   Be interesting to see how many people do not renew with POCA?
>
>   Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S(R)4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>   -------- Original message --------
>
>   From: Rod Kunishige <rkunishige at hotmail.com>
>
>   Date:05/28/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-08:00)
>
>   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>
>   Cc:
>
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Membership Dues Analysis
>
>   It is interesting that this President changed a generous
>   grace period without notice.
>   The so-called "shortfall" is created in part by the $10 increased
>   rebate to the chapters that was NOT requested in the first place.  The
>   return
>   of this sum places the club at nearly breakeven.  Simply, use the money
>   to
>  pay for our publication costs.
>   PROPOSED:  $75 dues
>   less $15 to chapters yields $60 to fund the $62.52 publication estimate
>   - per
>   MS.
>   Our $100,000 reserve would easily fund the $2.52 per year.  Carrying
> 853
>   members at $2.52 is $2,149.56 per year.  Divide that into 100,000 means
>   funding covers 46.5 YEARS.
>   OPINION:
>   I do recognize that Mr. Shortt controls the Board by a 5 to
>   4 vote but there I think that this is a better solution than what MS
>   has
>   proposed.  Finally, kudos goes to him
>   for at least publishing the actions he intends to take so we may make
>   positive
>   suggestions for improvement.
>   (Information taken from the President's Blog.)
>
>      It is interesting that this President changed a generous grace
>   period
>      without notice.
>      The so-called "shortfall" is created in part by the $10 increased
>      rebate to the chapters that was NOT requested in the first place.
>   The
>      return of this sum places the club at nearly breakeven.  Simply, use
>      the money to pay for our publication costs.
>      PROPOSED:  $75 dues less $15 to chapters yields $60 to fund the
>   $62.52
>      publication estimate per MS.
>      Our $100,000 reserve would easily fund the $2.52 per year.  Carrying
>      853 members at $2.52 is $2,149.56 per year.  Divide that into
>   100,000
>      means funding covers 46.5 YEARS.
>      OPINION:
>   I do recognize that Mr. Shortt controls the Board by a 5 to 4 vote
>   but
>   there I think that this is a better solution than what MS has
>      proposed.  Finally, kudos goes to him for at least publishing the
>      actions he intends to take so we may make positive suggestions for
>      improvement.
>  (Information taken from the Presidents Blog.)
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   Will, thank you for your comments. I think a lot of us think the same
   way; just unfortunate that someone else thinks otherwise.

   I haven't figured out how going to color in the Newsletter is going to
   save money; that normally costs more. Considering going with a cheaper
   printer is asking for trouble as it will produce a cheaper product;
   currently we have a very good printer who works with us greatly.
   Judy
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: cuvee <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>; Rod Kunishige
   <rkunishige at hotmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sat, May 28, 2016 8:59 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Membership Dues Analysis
   If POCA wants to know, they should ask when people donA^1t renew.
   I think the rebate is a good thing. Most of the POCA events are going
   to
   be local anyway - club meetings, tech sessions, drives, track days,
   cookouts, etc. This helps build the local clubs, plus it gives people
   more reason to join.
   I think making the newsletter color is a waste, though. ThereA^1s
   nothing
   wrong with the newsletter the way it is.
   On 5/28/16, 3:32 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of cuvee"
   <detomaso-[1]bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [2]cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
   > Be interesting to see how many people do not renew with POCA?
   >
   > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S(R)4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
   >
   > -------- Original message --------
   >
   > From: Rod Kunishige <[3]rkunishige at hotmail.com>
   >
   > Date:05/28/2016 11:53 AM (GMT-08:00)
   >
   > To: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >
   > Cc:
   >
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Membership Dues Analysis
   >
   > It is interesting that this President changed a generous
   > grace period without notice.
   > The so-called "shortfall" is created in part by the $10 increased
   > rebate to the chapters that was NOT requested in the first place. The
   > return
   > of this sum places the club at nearly breakeven. Simply, use the
   money
   > to
   > pay for our publication costs.
   > PROPOSED: $75 dues
   > less $15 to chapters yields $60 to fund the $62.52 publication
   estimate
   > - per
   > MS.
   > Our $100,000 reserve would easily fund the $2.52 per year. Carrying
   > 853
   > members at $2.52 is $2,149.56 per year. Divide that into 100,000
   means
   > funding covers 46.5 YEARS.
   > OPINION:
   > I do recognize that Mr. Shortt controls the Board by a 5 to
   > 4 vote but there I think that this is a better solution than what MS
   > has
   > proposed. Finally, kudos goes to him
   > for at least publishing the actions he intends to take so we may make
   > positive
   > suggestions for improvement.
   > (Information taken from the President's Blog.)
   >
   > It is interesting that this President changed a generous grace
   > period
   > without notice.
   > The so-called "shortfall" is created in part by the $10 increased
   > rebate to the chapters that was NOT requested in the first place.
   > The
   > return of this sum places the club at nearly breakeven. Simply, use
   > the money to pay for our publication costs.
   > PROPOSED: $75 dues less $15 to chapters yields $60 to fund the
   > $62.52
   > publication estimate per MS.
   > Our $100,000 reserve would easily fund the $2.52 per year. Carrying
   > 853 members at $2.52 is $2,149.56 per year. Divide that into
   > 100,000
   > means funding covers 46.5 YEARS.
   > OPINION:
   > I do recognize that Mr. Shortt controls the Board by a 5 to 4 vote
   > but
   > there I think that this is a better solution than what MS has
   > proposed. Finally, kudos goes to him for at least publishing the
   > actions he intends to take so we may make positive suggestions for
   > improvement.
   > (Information taken from the Presidents Blog.)
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