[DeTomaso] Copyright law
Ed Mendez
edducati at mac.com
Tue May 24 11:26:32 EDT 2016
What does this have to do with Panteras or DeTomaso?
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> On 24/05/2016, at 08:20, j g via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> ALL
> Just for what it's worth. There is case law showing that digitization
> of copy writed material is by itself not illegal. That ; that applies
> to part or whole documents . Case law states that unless the material
> is used in it's entirety in only some limited cases of commercial gain
> does the copy write apply. Any use of the material for research,
> private usage , and in some cases like song or speech/ book parodies
> can be used entirely under the free use clause even of for commercial
> purposes . ( the original artist or author must some how be given
> credit or is obvious) The requirements for digitization to allow search
> engines or; like this list to make available to persons in the pursuit
> of knowledge and or restoration projects has fully been determined by
> the supreme court under case law to be legal under fair use.
> Next any site such as this site that is open to individuals posting
> their opinions, their information whether new , unique or rehashed copy
> writed material because of the intent and purpose of this site is not
> for economic gain but educational and social use , That is enough to
> make the posting of information be fair use. Next , what one may not
> understand is that after a 12 year period all documents associated with
> production of equipment (almost all kinds) has to be made available
> to after market and anyone requesting them from the original company to
> allow maintenance of obsoleted materials.
> I personally have gotten the original engineering documents for
> Corvair parts even parts that were not ever put into production ( GM
> engineering doc) for ring and pinion parts to reverse the rotation of
> the manual transaxle for mid engine applications to prevent pinion
> failure operating always in coast . next I have also gotten complete
> casting drawings from for Ford For their duratec V6 Lincoln ls cylinder
> heads on a request for motorsports support. ( best to know what the
> design casting wall locations and thicknesses are supposed to be rather
> than cut up too many expensive heads. ) . All were sent with the
> notation of released under FAIR USE of the patent and copy write laws .
> Posting of any material not specifically applied for copy write or
> poors mans copy write ( copy of material sealed in a certified mail and
> mailed to one's self) has been determined to not be explicitly
> covered under copy write and is fair use every time.
> These are not legal opinions but restating of information contained in
> the public record of the fair use doctrine with regards to copy write.
> Just remember all your book reports and any papers you wrote in college
> , you were allowed to use both verbatim as well as reworded information
> not your own creation by placing sub-notations or direct reference
> giving credit to the original source or you source and author . So
> free use is not a new concept it has been around for quite some time.
> John Garcia
> __________________________________________________________________
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> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: "kdb at kbyrnes.com" <kdb at kbyrnes.com>;
> "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
> I know a lot more about patents and trademarks, and the Internet has
> become the wild west of IP law.
> I would think that because the "former poster" in fact posted the
> content and knowingly put it into a searchable data base, his only
> right would be against someone who copied and used the content in
> another fashion. What he is saying is something like telling
> everyone
> he ever sent an email or letter to that they now have to delete the
> email or destroy the letter. Maybe offer to send an email to all the
> forum members informing them that member X may sue them if they
> repost
> any of his posts?
> The issue with stuff like this is that occasionally you run into a
> total jerk who threatens to sue. IP law suits are so expensive and
> stressful that you usually lose even if you win.
> I can try to run this past an experienced IP litigator I know and see
> what he thinks. There should be case law by now that applies.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: "[1]kdb at kbyrnes.com" <[2]kdb at kbyrnes.com>
> To: [3]kenn_green at yahoo.com; [4]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
> Thanks Ken. The issue is a disgruntled former poster of the email
> list
> has sent me a request to purge every post he has made to the list.
> He
> is claiming he owns the copyright to anything he has written. Is he
> correct?
> Thanks,
> Kurt
> ------ Original message------
> From: Ken Green
> Date: Mon, May 23, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: Kurt Byrnes[1];[5]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
> Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
> Generally, you are not free to use a copyrighted work in its
> entirely,
> or substantial portions, but under the fair use, you can copy short
> sections of it if you are commenting on them, not reproducing the
> work
> as a whole. If it's something simple like a photo or painting, you
> cannot reproduce it in its original entirely, but I think there was a
> case where the court found that a low resolution thumb nail version
> of
> as copyrighted painting did not infringe because it would never be
> blown up and used as art.
> This looks pretty good:
> [2]Using materials from the Internet
> [3]image
> [4]Using materials from the Internet
> Using materials from the Internet
> [5]View on [6]copyright.lib.utexas.edu
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> From: Kurt Byrnes [7]>
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> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:41 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
> If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to
> copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP!
> Sheesh!
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