[DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?

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Mon May 23 09:51:33 EDT 2016


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On 5/23/2016 6:45 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>     Oh, well... that's explains it then.  ;)
>     Asa  Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
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>     On 5/22/2016 11:51 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:
>
>     Sorry for giving you a headache Asa Jay! :-) It's actually as simple as
>     (cross section area) multiplied by (force per area unit).
>
>
>
>     Tomas
>     <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
>
>         From: Asa Jay Laughton [[3]asajay at asajay.com]
>     Sent: 22/5/2016 10:41:34 PM
>     To: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>     Tomas,
>     Please take the following comment as a deep respect for your depth of
>     knowledge as I have never professed to be a learned engineer.
>     Dang man you can make my head hurt. ;)
>     I truly admire the smart folks we have out there.
>     Asa Jay
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>     & Shelley Marie
>     Spokane, WA
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>     On 5/22/2016 7:28 AM, Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:
>     An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of
>     19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2
>     and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a
>     little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6
>     x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin.
>     Tomas
>     <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
>     From: Larry Weston [[[7]3]lplugw at hotmail.com]
>     Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM
>     To: [[8]4]guson at home.se
>     Cc: [[9]5]detomaso at detomasolist.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>     Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case,
>     there are four of them.
>     Sent from my iPhone
>     On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson
>     <[[10]6]guson at home.se[7][11]<mailto:guson at home.se>> wrote:
>     A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the
>     weight of the car.
>     Tomas
>     <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
>     From: Larry Weston
>     [[[12]8]lplugw at hotmail.com[9][13]<mailto:lplugw at hotmail.com>]
>     Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM
>     To:
>     [[14]10]julian_kift at hotmail.com[11][15]<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>     Cc:
>     [[16]12]MikeLDrew at aol.com[13][17]<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>;detomaso at de
>     tomasolist.com
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>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>     That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in
>     that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm
>     diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to
>     think about it to much I decided.
>     Sent from my iPhone
>     > On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift
>     <[[19]15]julian_kift at hotmail.com[16][20]<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>     >> wrote:
>     >
>     > The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle
>     tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being
>     within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is
>     still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half
>     shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas
>     when we brake!
>     >
>     > Julian
>     > ________________________________________
>     > From: marshall smith
>     <[[21]17]marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net[18][22]<mailto:marshallgsmith at sbc
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>     > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM
>     > To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew';
>     [[23]19]detomaso at detomasolist.com[20][24]<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.
>     com>; Julian
>     Kift
>     > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>     >
>     > Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to
>     loosen the axle nut??
>     >
>     > M
>     > --------------------------------------------
>     > On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift
>     <[[25]21]julian_kift at hotmail.com[22][26]<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>     >> wrote:
>     >
>     > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
>     > To: "Douglas Kelm"
>     <[[27]23]dakelm at qwest.net[24][28]<mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>>,
>     "'Mike Drew'"
>     <[[29]25]MikeLDrew at aol.com[26][30]<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
>     "[[31]27]detomaso at detomasolist.com[28][32]<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist
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>     <[[33]29]detomaso at detomasolist.com[30][34]<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist
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>     > Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM
>     >
>     > Doug,
>     >
>     > Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the
>     > wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise
>     > motion of the axle would want to undo it!
>     >
>     > Julian
>     >
>     > ________________________________________
>     > From: DeTomaso
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>     so-bounces at ser
>     ve
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>     > on behalf of Douglas Kelm
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>     >>
>     > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM
>     > To: 'Mike Drew';
>     [[39]35]detomaso at detomasolist.com[36][40]<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.
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>     > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
>     > side?
>     >
>     > I would think that
>     > the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the
>     > left side
>     > of the vehicle. Think of the nut
>     > being stationary while the axle (on the
>     > drivers side) rotates counter clockwise
>     > (looking from outside the car),
>     > meaning the
>     > nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is
>     > the
>     > desired situation. Of course,
>     > there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely
>     > full of "it"!
>     >
>     > Doug
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: DeTomaso
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>     > On Behalf
>     > Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>     > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM
>     > To:
>     [[42]38]detomaso at detomasolist.com[39][43]<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.
>     com>
>     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
>     > side?
>     >
>     > Hi guys,
>     >
>     > I thought I would lead off
>     > with he first technical question on the new
>     > forum.
>     >
>     > The
>     > rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and
>     > 'right' respectively. But
>     > that
>     > speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse
>     > thread, left to
>     > tighten)
>     >
>     > It's my belief that the S or left-tighten
>     > axle goes on the left side of the
>     > car but I
>     > can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or
>     > deny?
>     >
>     > Thanks!
>     >
>     > And welcome back!
>     >
>     > Mike
>     >
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