[DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?

Sun May 22 10:28:26 EDT 2016

An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of
19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2
and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a
little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6
x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin.

Tomas

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 	 	From: Larry Weston [lplugw at hotmail.com]
Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM
To: guson at home.se
Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? 

Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case,
there are four of them. 

Sent from my iPhone 

On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson
<guson at home.se<mailto:guson at home.se>> wrote: 

A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the
weight of the car. 

Tomas 

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From: Larry Weston [lplugw at hotmail.com<mailto:lplugw at hotmail.com>] 
Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM 
To: julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com> 
Cc:
MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>;detomaso at detomasolist.com<ma
ilto:detomaso at detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? 

That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in
that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm
diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to think
about it to much I decided. 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle
tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being
within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is
still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half
shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas when
we brake! 
> 
> Julian 
> ________________________________________ 
> From: marshall smith
<marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>> 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM 
> To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew';
detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>; Julian Kift
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? 
> 
> Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to loosen
the axle nut?? 
> 
> M 
> -------------------------------------------- 
> On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift
<julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote: 
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? 
> To: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net<mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>>, "'Mike
Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
"detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>"
<detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>> 
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM 
> 
> Doug, 
> 
> Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the 
> wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise 
> motion of the axle would want to undo it! 
> 
> Julian 
> 
> ________________________________________ 
> From: DeTomaso
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server
.detomasolist.com>> 
> on behalf of Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net<mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>> 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM 
> To: 'Mike Drew';
detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which 
> side? 
> 
> I would think that 
> the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the 
> left side 
> of the vehicle. Think of the nut 
> being stationary while the axle (on the 
> drivers side) rotates counter clockwise 
> (looking from outside the car), 
> meaning the 
> nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is 
> the 
> desired situation. Of course, 
> there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely 
> full of "it"! 
> 
> Doug 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] 
> On Behalf 
> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM 
> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com> 
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which 
> side? 
> 
> Hi guys, 
> 
> I thought I would lead off 
> with he first technical question on the new 
> forum. 
> 
> The 
> rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and 
> 'right' respectively. But 
> that 
> speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse 
> thread, left to 
> tighten) 
> 
> It's my belief that the S or left-tighten 
> axle goes on the left side of the 
> car but I 
> can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or 
> deny? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> And welcome back! 
> 
> Mike 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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   An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of
   19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2
   and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a
   little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6
   x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin.

   Tomas
   <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
       From: Larry Weston [lplugw at hotmail.com]
   Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM
   To: guson at home.se
   Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
   Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case,
   there are four of them.
   Sent from my iPhone
   On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson
   <guson at home.se<mailto:guson at home.se>> wrote:
   A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the
   weight of the car.
   Tomas
   <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
   From: Larry Weston [lplugw at hotmail.com<mailto:lplugw at hotmail.com>]
   Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM
   To: julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc:
   MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>;detomaso at detomasolist.com<m
   ailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
   That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in
   that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm
   diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to
   think about it to much I decided.
   Sent from my iPhone
   > On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift
   <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
   >
   > The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle
   tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being
   within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is
   still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half
   shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas
   when we brake!
   >
   > Julian
   > ________________________________________
   > From: marshall smith
   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>>
   > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM
   > To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew';
   detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>; Julian
   Kift
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
   >
   > Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to
   loosen the axle nut??
   >
   > M
   > --------------------------------------------
   > On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift
   <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>> wrote:
   >
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
   > To: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net<mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>>,
   "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>,
   "detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>"
   <detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>>
   > Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM
   >
   > Doug,
   >
   > Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the
   > wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise
   > motion of the axle would want to undo it!
   >
   > Julian
   >
   > ________________________________________
   > From: DeTomaso
   <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at serve
   r.detomasolist.com>>
   > on behalf of Douglas Kelm <dakelm at qwest.net<mailto:dakelm at qwest.net>>
   > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM
   > To: 'Mike Drew';
   detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
   > side?
   >
   > I would think that
   > the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the
   > left side
   > of the vehicle. Think of the nut
   > being stationary while the axle (on the
   > drivers side) rotates counter clockwise
   > (looking from outside the car),
   > meaning the
   > nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is
   > the
   > desired situation. Of course,
   > there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely
   > full of "it"!
   >
   > Doug
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   > On Behalf
   > Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM
   > To: detomaso at detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which
   > side?
   >
   > Hi guys,
   >
   > I thought I would lead off
   > with he first technical question on the new
   > forum.
   >
   > The
   > rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and
   > 'right' respectively. But
   > that
   > speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse
   > thread, left to
   > tighten)
   >
   > It's my belief that the S or left-tighten
   > axle goes on the left side of the
   > car but I
   > can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or
   > deny?
   >
   > Thanks!
   >
   > And welcome back!
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
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