[DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC

Sat May 21 19:55:34 EDT 2016

     I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr. Short's temperament.  A few folks on the forum did not take kindly to the negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to line his own packets.
Ken
----- Forwarded Message -----
 From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
 To: Art Stephens <artstephens at charter.net> 
Cc: DeTomaso A <detomaso at realbig.com>; scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
 Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC

I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of Detomaso
List postings I can't find another post by you. You may very well have the
best of intentions.

However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news ( that was on
Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading me to question
your motives, seeing that your business targets the automotive marketplace
does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like creating a problem that you
can offer to help fix for a fee.

There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy Lube
franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as being such is
nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You above all
others should know that to be true.

Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind, esp. one
that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass and watches TV
instead of watching their car probably deserves whatever they get. There is
no excuse for the crooks, they should have been arrested, that is nothing
more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be watching and would ALWAYS
request your parts. I personally ask for the new oil filter and date it
myself with a sharpie "for my own records". Fluids changes can be checks by
examining the dipstick for the color of the replacement fluids and lastly if
they don't meet your expectations, refuse to pay until proof has been
furnished, the last thing they want is a car blocking the bay or the police
to show up if they are indeed crooks, too much attention and the last thing
a crook wants is attention.

Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to take and if
you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space for a backyard
buddy so that I could easily do those routine things myself, then it is your
responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody else ever will.

Michael in Savannah

On 8/24/07, Art Stephens <artstephens at charter.net> wrote:
>
>    Thank you Scott.  I don't do business with them and it looks like I
> never will!
>
> Art
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> To: "DeTomaso A" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>
>
> >
> >
> >  4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business with
> any
> > Jiffy's in your town?
> >
> >
> >
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200k.asx
> >
> > Scott Black
> >
> >
> > TimePiece Public Relations
> > Dallas - Houston - New York
> > www.timepiecepr.com
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   I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr. Short's
   temperament.  A few folks on the forum did not take kindly to the
   negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to line his
   own packets.
   Ken
   ----- Forwarded Message -----
   From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
   To: Art Stephens <artstephens at charter.net>
   Cc: DeTomaso A <detomaso at realbig.com>; scott black
   <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
   Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
   I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of
   Detomaso
   List postings I can't find another post by you. You may very well have
   the
   best of intentions.
   However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news ( that
   was on
   Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading me to
   question
   your motives, seeing that your business targets the automotive
   marketplace
   does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like creating a problem that
   you
   can offer to help fix for a fee.
   There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy Lube
   franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as being
   such is
   nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You above all
   others should know that to be true.
   Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind, esp.
   one
   that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass and
   watches TV
   instead of watching their car probably deserves whatever they get.
   There is
   no excuse for the crooks, they should have been arrested, that is
   nothing
   more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be watching and would
   ALWAYS
   request your parts. I personally ask for the new oil filter and date it
   myself with a sharpie "for my own records". Fluids changes can be
   checks by
   examining the dipstick for the color of the replacement fluids and
   lastly if
   they don't meet your expectations, refuse to pay until proof has been
   furnished, the last thing they want is a car blocking the bay or the
   police
   to show up if they are indeed crooks, too much attention and the last
   thing
   a crook wants is attention.
   Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to take
   and if
   you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space for a
   backyard
   buddy so that I could easily do those routine things myself, then it is
   your
   responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody else ever will.
   Michael in Savannah
   On 8/24/07, Art Stephens <[1]artstephens at charter.net> wrote:
   >
   >    Thank you Scott.  I don't do business with them and it looks like
   I
   > never will!
   >
   > Art
   >
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "scott black" <[2]timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
   > To: "DeTomaso A" <[3]detomaso at realbig.com>
   > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
   >
   >
   > >
   > >
   > >  4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business
   with
   > any
   > > Jiffy's in your town?
   > >
   > >
   > >
   >
   [4]http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.20
   0k.asx
   > >
   > > Scott Black
   > >
   > >
   > > TimePiece Public Relations
   > > Dallas - Houston - New York
   > > www.timepiecepr.com
   > >
   > > ---------------------------------
   > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on
   Yahoo!
   > > TV.
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   > >
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   > >
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References

   1. mailto:artstephens at charter.net
   2. mailto:timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at realbig.com
   4. http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200k.asx
   5. http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/
   6. mailto:DeTomaso at list.realbig.com
   7. http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   8. http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/
   9. mailto:DeTomaso at list.realbig.com
  10. http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  11. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
  12. http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/
  13. mailto:DeTomaso at list.realbig.com
  14. http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso