[DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Sat May 21 18:08:15 EDT 2016
This is familiar. I'm dealing with a guy (Pres. of our HOA) right now who is the same. Even worse..
he's a lawyer. Narcissistic. Makes horrifying decisions and costing us money!
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com<mailto:asajay at asajay.com>>
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
Did this really happen?
I only ask because I'm trying to understand the difference between who
MS appears to be "in public" versus who he seemingly appears to be "in
private" away from other eavesdroppers.
Yours is not the first time I've heard this kind of thing, and if it's
true it continues to speak to a disparity between the "kinder, gentler"
POCA leadership and how MS actually treats people in person. Part of
the trouble seems to be that if anyone disagrees with or even looks like
the -might- disagree with him, they are put off immediately as an
agitator. It's kind of sad really.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
http://w7tsc.org
http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/21/2016 10:05 AM, R.J wrote:
Last time, when Europeans where invited to Poca, i asked Mr. Shortt
about the benefits, i got the nasty answer, invited people should not
ask a question, they should take the invitation or leave...
OK, i left..
Roland
Am 21.05.2016 um 16:23 schrieb Asa Jay Laughton:
Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered
because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully
don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone
else
so you can do what you want.
I think the man is a closet narcissist. Why can't we have a
middle of
the road solution?
Example.
He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter. But what about
those
members who don't? Can't there be a happy medium where those who
want
electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who
want a
paper copy can get a paper copy?
According to him... no. There can be no happy medium. You will
conform or you will leave.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[1]http://w7tsc.org
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
Hi Guys,
I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are
designed to support one viewpoint over another.
For example:
1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
new
President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the
club
forward.
O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the
difference.
O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
The responses can be interpreted thusly:
A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
Seriously?
How about?
C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
what
they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort
through their responses.
Will.
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This is familiar. I'm dealing with a guy (Pres. of our HOA) right now
who is the same. Even worse..
he's a lawyer. Narcissistic. Makes horrifying decisions and costing us
money!
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of Asa Jay Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
Date: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:29 AM
To: "[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
Did this really happen?
I only ask because I'm trying to understand the difference between who
MS appears to be "in public" versus who he seemingly appears to be "in
private" away from other eavesdroppers.
Yours is not the first time I've heard this kind of thing, and if it's
true it continues to speak to a disparity between the "kinder, gentler"
POCA leadership and how MS actually treats people in person. Part of
the trouble seems to be that if anyone disagrees with or even looks
like
the -might- disagree with him, they are put off immediately as an
agitator. It's kind of sad really.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[6]http://w7tsc.org
[7]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/21/2016 10:05 AM, R.J wrote:
Last time, when Europeans where invited to Poca, i asked Mr. Shortt
about the benefits, i got the nasty answer, invited people should not
ask a question, they should take the invitation or leave...
OK, i left..
Roland
Am 21.05.2016 um 16:23 schrieb Asa Jay Laughton:
Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be
answered
because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully
don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone
else
so you can do what you want.
I think the man is a closet narcissist. Why can't we have a
middle of
the road solution?
Example.
He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter. But what about
those
members who don't? Can't there be a happy medium where those who
want
electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who
want a
paper copy can get a paper copy?
According to him... no. There can be no happy medium. You will
conform or you will leave.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
[1][8]http://w7tsc.org
[2][9]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
Hi Guys,
I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some
are
designed to support one viewpoint over another.
For example:
1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
new
President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the
club
forward.
O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see
the
difference.
O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
The responses can be interpreted thusly:
A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
Seriously?
How about?
C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President
is
alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
what
they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't
sort
through their responses.
Will.
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