[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 143, Issue 5

[CPhT]

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Today's Topics: 

1. Re: Thought I'd Test an Attachment (Bill Moore) 
2. Test (Doug) 
3. Re: Affordable DeTomaso for sale... (Bill Moore) 
4. This list versus new POCA site (Larry Finch) 
5. Re: Can we contribute through Paypal? (Asa Jay Laughton) 
6. Re: Thought I'd Test an Attachment (Curt Hall) 
7. Fwd: This list versus new POCA site (Dennis Valdez) 
8. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Charles Engles) 
9. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (scottcouchman at yahoo.com) 
10. FW: We want your opinion (Will Kooiman) 
11. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Stephen) 
12. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Stephen) 
13. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Corey Price) 
14. Re: FW: We want your opinion (scottcouchman at yahoo.com) 
15. Re: Fwd: This list versus new POCA site (Asa Jay Laughton) 
16. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Asa Jay Laughton) 
17. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Asa Jay Laughton) 
18. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Forest Goodhart) 
19. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Himes, Terry (397C)) 
20. Re: Electric problem (Mikael) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:47:41 -0600 
From: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com> 
To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment 
Message-ID: <l8ynna5gw0rue9qsmkuxrdum.1463791661241 at email.android.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 



Works for me ! 



Cheers, 
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net> 
Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00) 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment 

First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if this 
slick50 poster girl slides in 


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Works for me ! 

Cheers, 
Bill Moore 
Incendium Supply 
Calgary 

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From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net> 
Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00) 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment 
First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if 
this 
slick50 poster girl slides in 
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Message: 2 
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:55:42 -0700 
From: "Doug" <doug351c at gmail.com> 
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Test 
Message-ID: <010e01d1b2fb$80dba9f0$8292fdd0$@gmail.com> 
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I love this old-school email forum and the fact that it's continuing !!! 



Can you hear me now? TESTING 1 - 2 -3 ? Earth To Forum? 



Doug Braun 

Blue 73L #5505 

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I love this old-school email forum and the fact that it's continuing 
!!! 


Can you hear me now? TESTING 1 - 2 -3 ? Earth To Forum? 


Doug Braun 

Blue 73L #5505 

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Message: 3 
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 19:03:53 -0600 
From: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com> 
To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso Mail List 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Affordable DeTomaso for sale... 
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How is your eye, feeling better ? 



Cheers, 
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Date: 2016-05-20 4:43 PM (GMT-07:00) 
To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Affordable DeTomaso for sale... 

Yes, they still exist.? Question is, would you really want a 1989 Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo?? I imagine it's good on gas!? Think of all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true 

Just the messenger!Garth#4033 


?? Yes, they still exist.? Question is, would you really want a 1989 
?? Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo?? I imagine it's good on gas!? Think of 
?? all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying 
?? this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing. 
?? [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true 
?? Just the messenger! 
?? Garth 
?? #4033 

References 

?? 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true 

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How is your eye, feeling better ? 

Cheers, 
Bill Moore 
Incendium Supply 
Calgary 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Date: 2016-05-20 4:43 PM (GMT-07:00) 
To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Affordable DeTomaso for sale... 
Yes, they still exist. Question is, would you really want a 1989 
Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo? I imagine it's good on gas! Think of 
all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying 
this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true 
Just the messenger!Garth#4033 
Yes, they still exist. Question is, would you really want a 1989 
Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo? I imagine it's good on gas! Think 
of 
all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying 
this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing. 
[1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true 
Just the messenger! 
Garth 
#4033 
References 
1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true 
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Message: 4 
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 20:59:43 -0700 
From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com> 
To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site 
Message-ID: <5115F780-1A48-427D-A16B-F4860A1C0291 at aol.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 

All, 

I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don?t hate. I like new and shiny things) 

It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to use. Smart phone use is quite trying. 

What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus the volume of this resurrected email list. 

I think I?m being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the POCA forum by at least 10 to 1. 

Not sure what that means, but it must mean something???. 

Just saying. ;-) 

Larry - 







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Message: 5 
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:07:04 -0700 
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Can we contribute through Paypal? 
Message-ID: <573FDEE8.8000309 at asajay.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 

I think... I like the way -you- think.... even better than Rob. ;) 
Blondes Brunettes and Redheads. My dad taught me right. 

Asa Jay 

Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
& Shelley Marie 
Spokane, WA 
****************************** 
http://w7tsc.org 
http://www.teampanteraracing.com 


On 5/20/2016 10:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote: 
> << then we'll just have to get sneaky in some other way to help him out with 
> costs.>> 
> 
> Redhead? 
> 
> 
> Larry (may as well start off right) - Cleveland 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf 
> Of Asa Jay Laughton 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:56 AM 
> To: Mark Charlton 
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Ken Green 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Can we contribute through Paypal? 
> 
> Hi Mark (and all), 
> Kurt is still working diligently along with a little help from Mark 
> McWhinney (both of whom I think are a lot smarter than me on these 
> things), to get the list server where it needs to be with regard to 
> extra security. 
> 
> I think Kurt will give us the proper PayPal email (if he does PayPal) at 
> some point shortly. If not, then we'll just have to get sneaky in some 
> other way to help him out with costs. ;) 
> 
> Asa Jay 
> 
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
> & Shelley Marie 
> Spokane, WA 
> ****************************** 
> http://w7tsc.org 
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com 
> 
> 
> On 5/19/2016 7:05 PM, Mark Charlton wrote: 
>> Asa Jay, 
>> 
>> If there was an email that we could all make a modest PayPal contribution 
> (as a gift, so no fees), those who want to contribute could and nobody who 
> doesn't would feel obliged. 
>> Ready when you are. 
>> 
>> Mark Charlton 
>> pantera01826 at rogers.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 19, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com> wrote: 
>> 
>>> I like the way you think. ;) 
>>> Asa 
>>> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks 
>>> 
>>> Rob Dumoulin<rob at dumoulins.net> wrote: 
>>> Seems like the $ costs may be minimal, but there has to be a way to 
>>> make up 
>>> for the human costs. Anybody know how to email a shot of bourbon? 
>>> Rob 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Kurt Byrnes<kdb at kbyrnes.com> wrote: 
>>>> I'm waiting to see how much data/bandwidth we need. The list is 
>>> on a 
>>>> virtual private server. Current limits are 2TB data transfer per 
>>>> month, 20 GB disk space. Since it's an "unmanaged" server, cost 
>>> is 
>>>> only $5/month. If we exceed the 2TB/month, cost goes up by $1 per 
>>>> TB/month. We're using 13GB of disk which includes a couple copies 
>>> of 
>>>> the archives so we'll be fine on space. 
>>>> Kurt 
>>>> On 5/19/2016 1:54 PM, Ken Green wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Kurt, 
>>>> I'm sure a bunch of us really appreciate your efforts on 
>>> this. 
>>>> Can we contribute to your expenses? 
>>>> Ken 
>>>> 
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>>> Seems like the $ costs may be minimal, but there has to be a way to 
>>> make up for the human costs.A Anybody know how to email a shot of 
>>> bourbon? 
>>> RobA 
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Kurt Byrnes<[1]kdb at kbyrnes.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> A A I'm waiting to see how much data/bandwidth we need.A The 
>>> list 
>>> is on a 
>>> A A virtual private server.A Current limits are 2TB data 
>>> transfer 
>>> per 
>>> A A month, 20 GB disk space.A Since it's an "unmanaged" server, 
>>> cost is 
>>> A A only $5/month.A If we exceed the 2TB/month, cost goes up by 
>>> $1 
>>> per 
>>> A A TB/month.A We're using 13GB of disk which includes a couple 
>>> copies of 
>>> A A the archives so we'll be fine on space. 
>>> A A Kurt 
>>> A A On 5/19/2016 1:54 PM, Ken Green wrote: 
>>> A A Hi Kurt, 
>>> A A A A I'm sure a bunch of us really appreciate your efforts 
> on 
>>> this. 
>>> A A Can we contribute to your expenses? 
>>> A A Ken 
>>> A A 
>>> A 
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Message: 6 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:10:27 +0000 (UTC) 
From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> 
To: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>, MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>, 
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment 
Message-ID: 
<70944671.165923.1463821827372.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 

The Slick Photo came though! But want the hell is that funny looking yellow car? lol 

On Friday, May 20, 2016 5:48 PM, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com> wrote: 


? Works for me ! 

? Cheers, 
? Bill Moore 
? Incendium Supply 
? Calgary 

? -------- Original message -------- 
? From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net> 
? Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00) 
? To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
? Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment 
? First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if 
? this 
? slick50 poster girl slides in 
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The Slick Photo came though! But want the hell is that funny looking 
yellow car? lol 
On Friday, May 20, 2016 5:48 PM, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com> wrote: 
Works for me ! 
Cheers, 
Bill Moore 
Incendium Supply 
Calgary 
-------- Original message -------- 
From: MyCars <[1]mycars at comcast.net> 
Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00) 
To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment 
First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if 
this 
slick50 poster girl slides in 
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Message: 7 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 02:39:31 -0700 
From: Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> 
To: "Pantera List detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: This list versus new POCA site 
Message-ID: <BE66CC00-96E4-4479-AF66-F67B4D5128C0 at yahoo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 




Begin forwarded message: 

> From: Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> 
> Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT 
> To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site 
> 
> Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong with the tool. I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great like the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity. 
> 
> Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now the POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find information. This email stream is like sitting at a big table with a lot of your friends having several conversations at once about different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea how to search the years of history to find stuff. 
> 
> Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new and old friends with a common interest in great cars. So wherever I find those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they prefer. 
> 
>> On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> All, 
>> 
>> I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don?t hate. I like new and shiny things) 
>> 
>> It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to use. Smart phone use is quite trying. 
>> 
>> What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus the volume of this resurrected email list. 
>> 
>> I think I?m being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the POCA forum by at least 10 to 1. 
>> 
>> Not sure what that means, but it must mean something???. 
>> 
>> Just saying. ;-) 
>> 
>> Larry - 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
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Begin forwarded message: 

From: Dennis Valdez <[1]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> 
Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT 
To: Larry Finch <[2]fresnofinches at aol.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site 

Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong with 
the tool. I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great like 
the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity. 
Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now the 
POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find 
information. This email stream is like sitting at a big table with a 
lot of your friends having several conversations at once about 
different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea how 
to search the years of history to find stuff. 
Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is to 
keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new and 
old friends with a common interest in great cars. So wherever I find 
those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they prefer. 

On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso 
<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: 

All, 

I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don't hate. I like 
new and shiny things) 

It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to 
use. Smart phone use is quite trying. 

What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus 
the volume of this resurrected email list. 

I think I'm being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the 
POCA forum by at least 10 to 1. 

Not sure what that means, but it must mean something.......... 

Just saying. ;-) 

Larry - 

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Message: 8 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 08:27:52 -0500 
From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> 
To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message 
Message-ID: <001201d1b364$93fc6bf0$bbf543d0$@net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 

Dear Forum, 





After reading Mr. Shortt?s humble statement, I understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man. He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting, business, entertainment, politics and leadership. 



His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that is gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and Maduro. This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace and compromise. 



Our Messiah has come. 





Reverentially yours, Chuck Engles 





PS: The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me of that clever courtroom interrogation: ?When did you stop beating your wife?? 









From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com) [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM 
To: cengles at cox.net 
Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message 



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Greetings POCA Members, 



In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great deal to me). 



There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club in general at the banquet". 

You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding of my Dog's issues as a result. 



You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do now. Please forgive me being a fews days late. 



2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS 

A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins. I do enjoy the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some of us do these things every weekend, if not every day. 

I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D?Orazio, whom I met in person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise). 

I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had never met most of you last year. You all know Rob; he is a nice guy who also cares deeply about this club. 

Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed. While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of action. 

I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months. Most of it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8 elected positions and the Past President. 

I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf; this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's, corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for the future. If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the betterment of the club. 

That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening here. 

I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community. For fun, I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41 Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38 times. I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will turn into win #39 next Tuesday. Respectable discourse and debate are not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side that was not successful understood those who voted made a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform. Never in my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep 
on doing their own thing and pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent, that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club. 

Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff. 

On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President; he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and former Fortune 500 Executive. You are lucky to have him standing by "just in case". He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting me know I'm doing the right thing. We have never voted on opposite sides. 

When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue. 

Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6 months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts. Ed works weird hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted differently. 

Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John Buckman. A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to speed on many items. Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a person who proves, "you can't win them all". 

It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as your POCA President. 

We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply are no secrets about money within POCA. We have a $100,000 reserve in the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy. 

I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve POCA members. I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling, no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal. It is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President of their respective chapters. 

I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club; it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated soon. 

We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers to any deceased member?s family if they had 10+years of membership; that effort did not pass. 

I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it. It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity out of the document, I have not represented it for additional signatures. 

I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete and the result debuted on May 7th. It exceeded my expectations and I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership. I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are normally processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the website. Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account within hours, and the best part, the 
POCA database is set up at the same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc. At the same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell. It's now FREE to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library. You will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to share information, ask for or give advice. 

On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to submit, please rename the file name to your name (?JohnSmithPantera") and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email it to " <mailto:pocaphotodrop at gmail.com> pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting views and colors. 

I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to facilitate these events. I believe the chapters should run the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their 
show, everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be a responsibility of the host chapter. 

Can I have an Amen on that? 



Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home safe again. 

I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't, those are the same people to voice your opinion too. 

The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results. 

We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to determine what is common among car clubs. 

I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not happened. 

It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also not happened. 

I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary duty to ensure that YOUR money is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional media for 36 years. 

What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4 issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover, sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black and White. The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it often arrives looking worse for wear. Profiles is usually mailed in a large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from moisture. 



So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club, organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition, to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and grateful for their continued patronage. All well run companies, churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and competitive prices, service and support. 



What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to back. A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles magazine in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over what we are now paying for Black and White. 



$8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is almost 20% of our total budget. Yet I am meeting a great deal of resistance. 



As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles. For this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance. 



During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues by $10 per member to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math, we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these publications. 

I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend, details below. 



I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the club) by helping us grow. That program is now underway and has it's own button on the lower menu on the website. 

If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch. 

If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented with a GOLD POCA patch. 

For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch. 

To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to keep stowed away in their car. The brochure directs new member prospects to go online at <http://poca.com/> poca.com to sign up; during that process, they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to ensure they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards. 

I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested in the UK and France. On the new website, fully 33% of the newly joined members in the last week are International members. 

I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model. The Qvale Club may even roll into POCA. 

Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest. 

I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did not happen. I still believe the strength of any National club is derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand the concept; it works. To my way of thinking, a National club is only as strong as it?s weakest chapter, we must do more to support the chapters. Helping build membership and spreading their influence, to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak roots. 

Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can, but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once per year. I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew. 

We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily. 

We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent to call. Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you wish to turn on to our members, please contact me. 

In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star, not the member who owns it. 

We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen. 

We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic. I have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars. I am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC. Qvale, Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the Pantera. It is a very prestigious event with tons of national automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result. 

I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort, something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did not pass. 

Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and develops an emergency issue. You can provide help in any number of ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem. All you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero. 

Here are some things that you can expect in the near future. 

Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua, Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a member. 

Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for chapter events, car shows, etc. 

I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must deliver upon those expectations. 

NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store. I carried 60 lbs of samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get settled. Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments and always great customer service. 

That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months, updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA Membership experience. 

The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way through to make all of this happen for you. Others outside the BOD who have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile. 

On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls. 

There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more. We need to be nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and always represent as a positive, fun experience. 

We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members who have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people. 

The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply investors. 

We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and new members alike. 

It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer. Outwardly over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the programs listed above. I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best for the club. 

We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next April. Here?s the problem: the BOD never discussed it. We appointed Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was ever made for 2017 or beyond. So the Fun Rally may very well still take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward. You read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to success. 

Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff. I have been called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules, violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape, and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890 people consume 75% of my time and attention. 

Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that we must all work to change. 

POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we preach. We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a few. Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and be nice. 



Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website to manage our records. It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too, we could not have done it without them. 



We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error rate. I know that many of you are still getting late membership due notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster. If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done for 30 members in the last 10 days. I'm sorry it is happening to you, if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these issues instantly and you can double check your address, email and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications on time. 



My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of the BOD, we have kept many of those promises. 



Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math questions, I promise. 



Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart. I will do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera. 



Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for the survey coming very soon after this email. 

Michael Shortt 

President 

POCA 





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Dear Forum, 



After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I 
understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man. 
He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting, 
business, entertainment, politics and leadership. 


His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that is 
gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is 
reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and 
Maduro. This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace 
and compromise. 


Our Messiah has come. 



Reverentially yours, Chuck Engles 



PS: The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me 
of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating your 
wife?" 





From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com) 
[mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM 
To: cengles at cox.net 
Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message 


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Greetings POCA Members, 


In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which 
was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until 
Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There 
are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great 
deal to me). 


There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the 
following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club 
in general at the banquet". 

You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being 
aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding 
of my Dog's issues as a result. 


You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do 
now. Please forgive me being a fews days late. 


2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS 

A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for 
hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins. I do enjoy 
the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like 
golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often 
make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear 
graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some 
of us do these things every weekend, if not every day. 

I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change 
in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met in 
person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as 
our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a 
fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise). 

I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had 
never met most of you last year. You all know Rob; he is a nice guy 
who also cares deeply about this club. 

Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one 
open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my 
shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed. 
While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both 
thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long 
established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of 
action. 

I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last 
January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious 
beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my 
whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months. Most of 
it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being 
supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8 
elected positions and the Past President. 

I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf; 
this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and 
for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to 
divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent 
weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's, 
corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with 
such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election 
results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a 
mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for 
the future. If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced 
change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and 
worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive 
unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the 
betterment of the club. 

That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening 
here. 

I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on 
during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you 
most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own 
social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community. For fun, 
I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41 
Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38 
times. I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will 
turn into win #39 next Tuesday. Respectable discourse and debate are 
not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to 
me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side 
that was not successful understood those who voted made 
a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform. Never in 
my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not 
mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along 
famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing and 
pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent, 
that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club. 

Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff. 

On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President; 
he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and 
former Fortune 500 Executive. You are lucky to have him standing by 
"just in case". He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting 
me know I'm doing the right thing. We have never voted on opposite 
sides. 

When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe 
works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone 
dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a 
teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our 
peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue. 

Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer 
whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6 
months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts. Ed works weird 
hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in 
Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted 
differently. 

Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John 
Buckman. A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and 
guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the 
bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to 
speed on many items. Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to 
my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect 
John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of 
what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a 
person who proves, "you can't win them all". 

It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that 
we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as 
your POCA President. 

We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply 
are no secrets about money within POCA. We have a $100,000 reserve in 
the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not 
produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With 
no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy. 

I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA 
Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus 
far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are 
always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh 
ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve 
POCA members. I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling, 
no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal. It 
is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President 
of their respective chapters. 

I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club; 
it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated 
soon. 

We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers 
to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership; 
that effort did not pass. 

I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I 
signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it. 
It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make 
personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to 
rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity 
out of the document, I have not represented it for additional 
signatures. 

I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete 
and the result debuted on May 7th. It exceeded my expectations and 
I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to 
visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership. 
I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates 
well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am 
proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, 
signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several 
months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are 
normally processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; 
when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member 
number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a 
few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the 
website. Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account 
within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the 
same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc. At the 
same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and 
the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications 
archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF 
manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell. It's now FREE 
to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library. You 
will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a 
better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus 
protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to share 
information, ask for or give advice. 

On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to 
showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to 
submit, please rename the file name to your name ("JohnSmithPantera") 
and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email 
it to "[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change 
the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting views 
and colors. 

I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year 
(N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of 
the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as 
those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these 
will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA 
East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by 
Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA 
National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity 
guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to 
facilitate these events. I believe the chapters should run 
the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party 
others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show 
community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being 
sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the 
show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show, 
everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only 
participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and 
conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be 
a responsibility of the host chapter. 

Can I have an Amen on that? 


Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the 
President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get 
preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but 
please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home 
safe again. 

I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which 
was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at 
all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't, 
those are the same people to voice your opinion too. 

The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally 
Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan 
and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of 
the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who 
attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance 
have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results. 

We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the 
old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws 
used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to 
determine what is common among car clubs. 

I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should 
be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was 
supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not 
happened. 

It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self 
sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every 
other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also 
not happened. 

I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and 
Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more 
than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to 
produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me 
as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary duty to ensure that YOUR money 
is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner 
in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional 
media for 36 years. 

What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both 
publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly 
Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and 
all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4 
issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover, 
sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black 
and White. The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it 
often arrives looking worse for wear. Profiles is usually mailed in a 
large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from 
moisture. 


So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive 
bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club, 
organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition, 
to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and 
grateful for their continued patronage. All well run companies, 
churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled 
to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and 
competitive prices, service and support. 


What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to 
deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to 
back. A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre 
drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles 
magazine in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to 
your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked 
bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over 
what we are now paying for Black and White. 


$8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is 
almost 20% of our total budget. Yet I am meeting a great deal 
of resistance. 


As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save 
all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles. For 
this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance. 


During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in 
attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted 
guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues 
by $10 per member to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At 
first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math, 
we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a 
voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these 
publications. 

I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend, 
details below. 


I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow 
any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a 
recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the 
club) by helping us grow. That program is now underway and has it's 
own button on the lower menu on the website. 

If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the 
following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch. 

If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and 
Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented 
with a GOLD POCA patch. 

For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are 
presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay 
National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you 
are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch. 

To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have 
redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of 
the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to 
keep stowed away in their car. The brochure directs new member 
prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that process, 
they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to ensure 
they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards. 

I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new 
chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested 
in the UK and France. On the new website, fully 33% of the newly 
joined members in the last week are International members. 

I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that 
too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta 
Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model. The 
Qvale Club may even roll into POCA. 

Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than 
Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all 
DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change 
the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz 
or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest. 

I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build 
up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did 
not happen. I still believe the strength of any National club is 
derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand 
the concept; it works. To my way of thinking, a National club is only 
as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the 
chapters. Helping build membership and spreading their influence, 
to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody 
knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the 
limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength 
comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak 
roots. 

Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can, 
but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once 
per year. I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every 
member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay 
local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew. 

We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want 
to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily. 

We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are 
entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance 
from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent 
to call. Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA 
members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you 
wish to turn on to our members, please contact me. 

In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for 
volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be 
the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star, 
not the member who owns it. 

We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen. 

We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November 
where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday 
and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic. I 
have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars. I 
am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC. Qvale, 
Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the 
Pantera. It is a very prestigious event with tons of national 
automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result. 

I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort, 
something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my 
own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did 
not pass. 

Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we 
devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program 
to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and 
develops an emergency issue. You can provide help in any number of 
ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out 
to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem. All 
you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero. 

Here are some things that you can expect in the near future. 

Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua, 
Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a 
member. 

Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will 
also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for 
chapter events, car shows, etc. 

I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present 
to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have 
higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must 
deliver upon those expectations. 

NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new 
POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store. I carried 60 lbs of 
samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review 
with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival 
those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will 
challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get 
settled. Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments 
and always great customer service. 

That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months, 
updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA 
Membership experience. 

The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause 
for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way 
through to make all of this happen for you. Others outside the BOD who 
have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob 
Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile. 

On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind 
and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members 
first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland 
Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls. 

There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big 
news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become 
in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more. We need to be 
nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and 
always represent as a positive, fun experience. 

We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age 
of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be 
active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of 
a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members who 
have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people. 

The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys 
with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and 
fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply 
investors. 

We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what 
members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer 
a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and 
new members alike. 

It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer. Outwardly 
over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the 
programs listed above. I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best 
for the club. 

We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally 
declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next 
April. Here's the problem: the BOD never discussed it. We appointed 
Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was 
ever made for 2017 or beyond. So the Fun Rally may very well still 
take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will 
be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you 
is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward. You 
read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter 
driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to 
success. 

Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff. I have been 
called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and 
select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they 
have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules, 
violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape, 
and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890 
people consume 75% of my time and attention. 

Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the 
meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item 
agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show 
Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that 
we must all work to change. 

POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we 
preach. We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch 
of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more 
of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a 
few. Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and 
be nice. 


Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the 
move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the 
existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an 
Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website 
to manage our records. It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe 
Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old 
addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer 
many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too, 
we could not have done it without them. 


We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error 
rate. I know that many of you are still getting late membership due 
notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to 
correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments 
reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster. 
If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid 
your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit 
card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done 
for 30 members in the last 10 days. I'm sorry it is happening to you, 
if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these 
issues instantly and you can double check your address, email 
and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications 
on time. 


My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to 
move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most 
importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of 
the BOD, we have kept many of those promises. 


Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on 
the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it 
should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math 
questions, I promise. 


Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have 
representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the 
message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart. I will 
do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the 
same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera. 


Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for 
the survey coming very soon after this email. 

Michael Shortt 

President 

POCA 


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Message: 9 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:32:46 -0700 
From: scottcouchman at yahoo.com 
To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> 
Cc: "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>" 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 

PS: The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me 
of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating your 
wife?" 

Amen! 



> On May 21, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote: 
> 
> Dear Forum, 
> 
> 
> 
> After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I 
> understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man. 
> He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting, 
> business, entertainment, politics and leadership. 
> 
> 
> His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that is 
> gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is 
> reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and 
> Maduro. This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace 
> and compromise. 
> 
> 
> Our Messiah has come. 
> 
> 
> 
> Reverentially yours, Chuck Engles 
> 
> 
> 
> PS: The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me 
> of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating your 
> wife?" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com) 
> [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM 
> To: cengles at cox.net 
> Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message 
> 
> 
> [1]View in your browser 
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
> 
> Greetings POCA Members, 
> 
> 
> In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which 
> was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until 
> Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There 
> are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great 
> deal to me). 
> 
> 
> There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the 
> following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club 
> in general at the banquet". 
> 
> You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being 
> aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding 
> of my Dog's issues as a result. 
> 
> 
> You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do 
> now. Please forgive me being a fews days late. 
> 
> 
> 2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS 
> 
> A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for 
> hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins. I do enjoy 
> the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like 
> golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often 
> make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear 
> graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some 
> of us do these things every weekend, if not every day. 
> 
> I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change 
> in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met in 
> person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as 
> our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a 
> fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise). 
> 
> I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had 
> never met most of you last year. You all know Rob; he is a nice guy 
> who also cares deeply about this club. 
> 
> Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one 
> open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my 
> shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed. 
> While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both 
> thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long 
> established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of 
> action. 
> 
> I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last 
> January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious 
> beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my 
> whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months. Most of 
> it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being 
> supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8 
> elected positions and the Past President. 
> 
> I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf; 
> this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and 
> for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to 
> divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent 
> weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's, 
> corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with 
> such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election 
> results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a 
> mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for 
> the future. If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced 
> change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and 
> worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive 
> unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the 
> betterment of the club. 
> 
> That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening 
> here. 
> 
> I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on 
> during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you 
> most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own 
> social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community. For fun, 
> I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41 
> Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38 
> times. I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will 
> turn into win #39 next Tuesday. Respectable discourse and debate are 
> not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to 
> me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side 
> that was not successful understood those who voted made 
> a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform. Never in 
> my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not 
> mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along 
> famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing and 
> pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent, 
> that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club. 
> 
> Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff. 
> 
> On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President; 
> he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and 
> former Fortune 500 Executive. You are lucky to have him standing by 
> "just in case". He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting 
> me know I'm doing the right thing. We have never voted on opposite 
> sides. 
> 
> When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe 
> works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone 
> dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a 
> teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our 
> peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue. 
> 
> Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer 
> whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6 
> months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts. Ed works weird 
> hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in 
> Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted 
> differently. 
> 
> Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John 
> Buckman. A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and 
> guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the 
> bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to 
> speed on many items. Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to 
> my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect 
> John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of 
> what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a 
> person who proves, "you can't win them all". 
> 
> It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that 
> we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as 
> your POCA President. 
> 
> We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply 
> are no secrets about money within POCA. We have a $100,000 reserve in 
> the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not 
> produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With 
> no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy. 
> 
> I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA 
> Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus 
> far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are 
> always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh 
> ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve 
> POCA members. I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling, 
> no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal. It 
> is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President 
> of their respective chapters. 
> 
> I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club; 
> it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated 
> soon. 
> 
> We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers 
> to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership; 
> that effort did not pass. 
> 
> I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I 
> signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it. 
> It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make 
> personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to 
> rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity 
> out of the document, I have not represented it for additional 
> signatures. 
> 
> I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete 
> and the result debuted on May 7th. It exceeded my expectations and 
> I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to 
> visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership. 
> I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates 
> well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am 
> proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, 
> signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several 
> months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are 
> normally processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; 
> when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member 
> number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a 
> few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the 
> website. Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account 
> within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the 
> same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc. At the 
> same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and 
> the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications 
> archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF 
> manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell. It's now FREE 
> to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library. You 
> will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a 
> better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus 
> protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to share 
> information, ask for or give advice. 
> 
> On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to 
> showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to 
> submit, please rename the file name to your name ("JohnSmithPantera") 
> and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email 
> it to "[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change 
> the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting views 
> and colors. 
> 
> I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year 
> (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of 
> the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as 
> those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these 
> will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA 
> East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by 
> Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA 
> National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity 
> guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to 
> facilitate these events. I believe the chapters should run 
> the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party 
> others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show 
> community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being 
> sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the 
> show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show, 
> everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only 
> participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and 
> conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be 
> a responsibility of the host chapter. 
> 
> Can I have an Amen on that? 
> 
> 
> Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the 
> President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get 
> preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but 
> please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home 
> safe again. 
> 
> I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which 
> was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at 
> all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't, 
> those are the same people to voice your opinion too. 
> 
> The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally 
> Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan 
> and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of 
> the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who 
> attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance 
> have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results. 
> 
> We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the 
> old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws 
> used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to 
> determine what is common among car clubs. 
> 
> I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should 
> be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was 
> supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not 
> happened. 
> 
> It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self 
> sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every 
> other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also 
> not happened. 
> 
> I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and 
> Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more 
> than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to 
> produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me 
> as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary duty to ensure that YOUR money 
> is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner 
> in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional 
> media for 36 years. 
> 
> What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both 
> publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly 
> Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and 
> all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4 
> issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover, 
> sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black 
> and White. The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it 
> often arrives looking worse for wear. Profiles is usually mailed in a 
> large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from 
> moisture. 
> 
> 
> So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive 
> bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club, 
> organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition, 
> to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and 
> grateful for their continued patronage. All well run companies, 
> churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled 
> to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and 
> competitive prices, service and support. 
> 
> 
> What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to 
> deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to 
> back. A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre 
> drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles 
> magazine in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to 
> your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked 
> bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over 
> what we are now paying for Black and White. 
> 
> 
> $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is 
> almost 20% of our total budget. Yet I am meeting a great deal 
> of resistance. 
> 
> 
> As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save 
> all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles. For 
> this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance. 
> 
> 
> During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in 
> attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted 
> guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues 
> by $10 per member to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At 
> first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math, 
> we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a 
> voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these 
> publications. 
> 
> I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend, 
> details below. 
> 
> 
> I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow 
> any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a 
> recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the 
> club) by helping us grow. That program is now underway and has it's 
> own button on the lower menu on the website. 
> 
> If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the 
> following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch. 
> 
> If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and 
> Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented 
> with a GOLD POCA patch. 
> 
> For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are 
> presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay 
> National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you 
> are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch. 
> 
> To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have 
> redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of 
> the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to 
> keep stowed away in their car. The brochure directs new member 
> prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that process, 
> they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to ensure 
> they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards. 
> 
> I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new 
> chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested 
> in the UK and France. On the new website, fully 33% of the newly 
> joined members in the last week are International members. 
> 
> I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that 
> too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta 
> Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model. The 
> Qvale Club may even roll into POCA. 
> 
> Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than 
> Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all 
> DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change 
> the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz 
> or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest. 
> 
> I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build 
> up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did 
> not happen. I still believe the strength of any National club is 
> derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand 
> the concept; it works. To my way of thinking, a National club is only 
> as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the 
> chapters. Helping build membership and spreading their influence, 
> to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody 
> knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the 
> limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength 
> comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak 
> roots. 
> 
> Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can, 
> but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once 
> per year. I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every 
> member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay 
> local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew. 
> 
> We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want 
> to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily. 
> 
> We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are 
> entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance 
> from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent 
> to call. Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA 
> members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you 
> wish to turn on to our members, please contact me. 
> 
> In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for 
> volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be 
> the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star, 
> not the member who owns it. 
> 
> We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen. 
> 
> We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November 
> where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday 
> and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic. I 
> have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars. I 
> am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC. Qvale, 
> Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the 
> Pantera. It is a very prestigious event with tons of national 
> automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result. 
> 
> I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort, 
> something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my 
> own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did 
> not pass. 
> 
> Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we 
> devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program 
> to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and 
> develops an emergency issue. You can provide help in any number of 
> ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out 
> to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem. All 
> you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero. 
> 
> Here are some things that you can expect in the near future. 
> 
> Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua, 
> Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a 
> member. 
> 
> Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will 
> also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for 
> chapter events, car shows, etc. 
> 
> I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present 
> to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have 
> higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must 
> deliver upon those expectations. 
> 
> NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new 
> POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store. I carried 60 lbs of 
> samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review 
> with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival 
> those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will 
> challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get 
> settled. Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments 
> and always great customer service. 
> 
> That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months, 
> updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA 
> Membership experience. 
> 
> The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause 
> for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way 
> through to make all of this happen for you. Others outside the BOD who 
> have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob 
> Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile. 
> 
> On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind 
> and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members 
> first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland 
> Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls. 
> 
> There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big 
> news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become 
> in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more. We need to be 
> nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and 
> always represent as a positive, fun experience. 
> 
> We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age 
> of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be 
> active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of 
> a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members who 
> have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people. 
> 
> The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys 
> with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and 
> fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply 
> investors. 
> 
> We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what 
> members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer 
> a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and 
> new members alike. 
> 
> It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer. Outwardly 
> over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the 
> programs listed above. I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best 
> for the club. 
> 
> We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally 
> declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next 
> April. Here's the problem: the BOD never discussed it. We appointed 
> Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was 
> ever made for 2017 or beyond. So the Fun Rally may very well still 
> take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will 
> be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you 
> is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward. You 
> read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter 
> driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to 
> success. 
> 
> Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff. I have been 
> called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and 
> select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they 
> have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules, 
> violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape, 
> and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890 
> people consume 75% of my time and attention. 
> 
> Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the 
> meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item 
> agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show 
> Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that 
> we must all work to change. 
> 
> POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we 
> preach. We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch 
> of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more 
> of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a 
> few. Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and 
> be nice. 
> 
> 
> Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the 
> move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the 
> existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an 
> Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website 
> to manage our records. It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe 
> Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old 
> addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer 
> many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too, 
> we could not have done it without them. 
> 
> 
> We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error 
> rate. I know that many of you are still getting late membership due 
> notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to 
> correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments 
> reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster. 
> If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid 
> your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit 
> card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done 
> for 30 members in the last 10 days. I'm sorry it is happening to you, 
> if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these 
> issues instantly and you can double check your address, email 
> and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications 
> on time. 
> 
> 
> My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to 
> move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most 
> importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of 
> the BOD, we have kept many of those promises. 
> 
> 
> Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on 
> the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it 
> should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math 
> questions, I promise. 
> 
> 
> Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have 
> representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the 
> message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart. I will 
> do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the 
> same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera. 
> 
> 
> Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for 
> the survey coming very soon after this email. 
> 
> Michael Shortt 
> 
> President 
> 
> POCA 
> 
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Message: 10 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:33:36 -0400 
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion 
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Hi Guys, 

I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can?t. 

Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are designed 
to support one viewpoint over another. 

For example: 

1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new 
President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club 
forward. 
O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the 
difference. 
O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone. 

The responses can be interpreted thusly: 
A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 
B. I?m stupid, and I like it that way. 

Seriously? 

How about? 
C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is 
alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 
D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what they 
want? It?s not like we have billions of members and can?t sort through 
their responses. 

Will. 

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Hi Guys, 

I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't. 

Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are 
designed to support one viewpoint over another. 

For example: 

1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new 
President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club 
forward. 

O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the 
difference. 

O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone. 

The responses can be interpreted thusly: 

A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 

B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way. 

Seriously? 

How about? 

C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is 
alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 

D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what 
they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort 
through their responses. 

Will. 

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Message: 11 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:48:53 -0700 
From: "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com> 
To: "'Will Kooiman'" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion 
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I took the survey, left about half the questions blank, and, funniest thing, 
pointed out in the comments section exactly what Will quoted about beating 
ones wife. Oh, also commented that perhaps it would help to proof read the 
survey before sending it out. 

Stephen Nelson 



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Hi Guys, 

I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can?t. 

Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are designed 
to support one viewpoint over another. 

For example: 

1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new 
President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club 
forward. 
O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the 
difference. 
O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone. 

The responses can be interpreted thusly: 
A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 
B. I?m stupid, and I like it that way. 

Seriously? 

How about? 
C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is 
alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 
D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what they 
want? It?s not like we have billions of members and can?t sort through 
their responses. 

Will. 

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Message: 12 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:56:07 -0700 
From: "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com> 
To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
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Ahhh - once again Charles cuts to the essence of the matter - 'cept he forgot a few of the other truly charismatic leaders with qualifications at least as stellar as Master Shortt's - Robert Mugabe, and Jacob Zuma come to mind. 

I quit reading after the first couple of paragraphs. Gads! 

OOPS! I attributed the quote about beating wives to Will - sorry Charles! 



Stephen Nelson 


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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:28 AM 
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message 

Dear Forum, 





After reading Mr. Shortt?s humble statement, I understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man. He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting, business, entertainment, politics and leadership. 



His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that is gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and Maduro. This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace and compromise. 



Our Messiah has come. 





Reverentially yours, Chuck Engles 





PS: The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me of that clever courtroom interrogation: ?When did you stop beating your wife?? 









From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com) [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM 
To: cengles at cox.net 
Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message 



View in your browser <http://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=722&club_id=999896&emtid=48579683612&mtid=293966696752&ht=0> 

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Greetings POCA Members, 



In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great deal to me). 



There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club in general at the banquet". 

You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding of my Dog's issues as a result. 



You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do now. Please forgive me being a fews days late. 



2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS 

A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins. I do enjoy the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some of us do these things every weekend, if not every day. 

I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D?Orazio, whom I met in person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise). 

I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had never met most of you last year. You all know Rob; he is a nice guy who also cares deeply about this club. 

Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed. While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of action. 

I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months. Most of it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8 elected positions and the Past President. 

I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf; this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's, corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for the future. If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the betterment of the club. 

That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening here. 

I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community. For fun, I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41 Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38 times. I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will turn into win #39 next Tuesday. Respectable discourse and debate are not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side that was not successful understood those who voted made a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform. Never in my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep 
on doing their own thing and pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent, that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club. 

Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff. 

On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President; he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and former Fortune 500 Executive. You are lucky to have him standing by "just in case". He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting me know I'm doing the right thing. We have never voted on opposite sides. 

When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue. 

Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6 months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts. Ed works weird hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted differently. 

Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John Buckman. A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to speed on many items. Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a person who proves, "you can't win them all". 

It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as your POCA President. 

We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply are no secrets about money within POCA. We have a $100,000 reserve in the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy. 

I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve POCA members. I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling, no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal. It is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President of their respective chapters. 

I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club; it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated soon. 

We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers to any deceased member?s family if they had 10+years of membership; that effort did not pass. 

I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it. It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity out of the document, I have not represented it for additional signatures. 

I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete and the result debuted on May 7th. It exceeded my expectations and I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership. I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are normally processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the website. Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account within hours, and the best part, the 
POCA database is set up at the same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc. At the same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell. It's now FREE to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library. You will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to share information, ask for or give advice. 

On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to submit, please rename the file name to your name (?JohnSmithPantera") and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email it to " <mailto:pocaphotodrop at gmail.com> pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting views and colors. 

I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to facilitate these events. I believe the chapters should run the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their 
show, everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be a responsibility of the host chapter. 

Can I have an Amen on that? 



Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home safe again. 

I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't, those are the same people to voice your opinion too. 

The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results. 

We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to determine what is common among car clubs. 

I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not happened. 

It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also not happened. 

I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary duty to ensure that YOUR money is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional media for 36 years. 

What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4 issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover, sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black and White. The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it often arrives looking worse for wear. Profiles is usually mailed in a large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from moisture. 



So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club, organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition, to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and grateful for their continued patronage. All well run companies, churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and competitive prices, service and support. 



What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to back. A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles magazine in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over what we are now paying for Black and White. 



$8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is almost 20% of our total budget. Yet I am meeting a great deal of resistance. 



As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles. For this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance. 



During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues by $10 per member to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math, we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these publications. 

I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend, details below. 



I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the club) by helping us grow. That program is now underway and has it's own button on the lower menu on the website. 

If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch. 

If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented with a GOLD POCA patch. 

For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch. 

To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to keep stowed away in their car. The brochure directs new member prospects to go online at <http://poca.com/> poca.com to sign up; during that process, they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to ensure they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards. 

I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested in the UK and France. On the new website, fully 33% of the newly joined members in the last week are International members. 

I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model. The Qvale Club may even roll into POCA. 

Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest. 

I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did not happen. I still believe the strength of any National club is derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand the concept; it works. To my way of thinking, a National club is only as strong as it?s weakest chapter, we must do more to support the chapters. Helping build membership and spreading their influence, to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak roots. 

Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can, but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once per year. I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew. 

We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily. 

We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent to call. Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you wish to turn on to our members, please contact me. 

In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star, not the member who owns it. 

We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen. 

We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic. I have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars. I am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC. Qvale, Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the Pantera. It is a very prestigious event with tons of national automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result. 

I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort, something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did not pass. 

Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and develops an emergency issue. You can provide help in any number of ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem. All you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero. 

Here are some things that you can expect in the near future. 

Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua, Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a member. 

Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for chapter events, car shows, etc. 

I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must deliver upon those expectations. 

NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store. I carried 60 lbs of samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get settled. Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments and always great customer service. 

That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months, updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA Membership experience. 

The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way through to make all of this happen for you. Others outside the BOD who have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile. 

On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls. 

There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more. We need to be nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and always represent as a positive, fun experience. 

We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members who have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people. 

The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply investors. 

We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and new members alike. 

It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer. Outwardly over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the programs listed above. I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best for the club. 

We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next April. Here?s the problem: the BOD never discussed it. We appointed Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was ever made for 2017 or beyond. So the Fun Rally may very well still take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward. You read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to success. 

Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff. I have been called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules, violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape, and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890 people consume 75% of my time and attention. 

Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that we must all work to change. 

POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we preach. We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a few. Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and be nice. 



Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website to manage our records. It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too, we could not have done it without them. 



We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error rate. I know that many of you are still getting late membership due notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster. If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done for 30 members in the last 10 days. I'm sorry it is happening to you, if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these issues instantly and you can double check your address, email and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications on time. 



My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of the BOD, we have kept many of those promises. 



Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math questions, I promise. 



Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart. I will do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera. 



Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for the survey coming very soon after this email. 

Michael Shortt 

President 

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Message: 13 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:57:07 -0600 
From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com> 
To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion 
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Yep, the survey Will mentions is hilariously biased! I'm still giggling 
about the absurdness of some of the possible responses. 

Corey 



On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
wrote: 

> Hi Guys, 
> 
> I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't. 
> 
> Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are 
> designed to support one viewpoint over another. 
> 
> For example: 
> 
> 1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new 
> President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club 
> forward. 
> 
> O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the 
> difference. 
> 
> O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone. 
> 
> The responses can be interpreted thusly: 
> 
> A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 
> 
> B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way. 
> 
> Seriously? 
> 
> How about? 
> 
> C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is 
> alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 
> 
> D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what 
> they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort 
> through their responses. 
> 
> Will. 
> 
> From: <[1]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of 
> "[2]pr at poca.com via surveymonkey.com" <[3]member at surveymonkey.com> 
> Reply-To: <[4]pr at poca.com> 
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM 
> To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
> Subject: We want your opinion 
> 
> 
> POCA Direction Survey 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We're conducting a survey and your input would be appreciated. Click 
> the button below to start the survey. Thank you for your participation! 
> 
> 
> 
> [6]Begin Survey 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> [7]Opt out of receiving surveys from this sender 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 4. mailto:pr at poca.com 
> 5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com 
> 6. 
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Yep, the survey Will mentions is hilariously biased!A I'm still 
giggling about the absurdness of some of the possible responses. 
Corey 

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Will Kooiman 
<[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote: 

A A Hi Guys, 
A A I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't. 
A A Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.A But 
some are 
A A designed to support one viewpoint over another. 
A A For example: 
A A 1.A I fully support the direction the club is headed in under 
the new 
A A President and the progressiveA BOD members who support moving 
the club 
A A forward. 
A A OA Absolutely, the change was long over due.A I can already 
see the 
A A difference. 
A A OA Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it 
alone. 
A A The responses can be interpreted thusly: 
A A A.A Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 
A A B.A I'm stupid, and I like it that way. 
A A Seriously? 
A A How about? 
A A C.A I support the direction the club is headed, but the 
President is 
A A alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 
A A D.A Why not have a free form text field and let the members 
write what 
A A they want?A It's not like we have billions of members and 
can't sort 
A A through their responses. 
A A Will. 
A A From: <[1][2]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of 
A A "[2][3]pr at poca.com via [4]surveymonkey.com" 
<[3][5]member at surveymonkey.com> 
A A Reply-To: <[4][6]pr at poca.com> 
A A Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM 
A A To: Will Kooiman <[5][7]will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
A A Subject: We want your opinion 
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A POCA Direction Survey 
A A We're conducting a survey and your input would be appreciated. 
Click 
A A the button below to start the survey. Thank you for your 
participation! 
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to you. 
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sender 
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References 
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A A 4. mailto:[11]pr at poca.com 
A A 5. mailto:[12]will.kooiman at gmail.com 
A A 6. 
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_2Fhy3EhxbpxJDHYpYZT3PErDK_2Bf6OjNYOPsqZdKwgInteeMkVSUAbvSGE_2F9k4wc 
aurKVB2hLP6e4ZrmlfNMDZtHZY8Si0fLp07Cm4fv_2BkevZT56cxh09FovYtok_2FHua 
1lDPaQLgwDmuBJyv_2FxhrQOrwDs1AgxAoDh39Gk2O_2BWWcSd7_2B6dqGpstRMR8CJ_ 
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Message: 14 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:05:35 -0700 
From: scottcouchman at yahoo.com 
To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" 
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion 
Message-ID: <2D7B3C98-8A1D-42E2-9C83-F6270CAA61A0 at yahoo.com> 
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Will, I agree completely with your evaluation of the survey, but I disagree with your corrective action. I believe this survey and the State of POCA email is the true MS. The members of POCA need to see him when he lets his guard down. This is the guy they elected President. If they like what he wrote in the survey and State, they should encourage and support him. Don't tone it down, crank it up!! Scott 



> On May 21, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Hi Guys, 
> 
> I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't. 
> 
> Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are 
> designed to support one viewpoint over another. 
> 
> For example: 
> 
> 1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new 
> President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club 
> forward. 
> 
> O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the 
> difference. 
> 
> O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone. 
> 
> The responses can be interpreted thusly: 
> 
> A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 
> 
> B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way. 
> 
> Seriously? 
> 
> How about? 
> 
> C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is 
> alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 
> 
> D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what 
> they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort 
> through their responses. 
> 
> Will. 
> 
> From: <[1]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of 
> "[2]pr at poca.com via surveymonkey.com" <[3]member at surveymonkey.com> 
> Reply-To: <[4]pr at poca.com> 
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM 
> To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com> 
> Subject: We want your opinion 
> 
> 
> POCA Direction Survey 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We're conducting a survey and your input would be appreciated. Click 
> the button below to start the survey. Thank you for your participation! 
> 
> 
> 
> [6]Begin Survey 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 4. mailto:pr at poca.com 
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Message: 15 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:14:18 -0700 
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: This list versus new POCA site 
Message-ID: <57406D3A.5030607 at asajay.com> 
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Dennis, 
I think you have a great view on how it's really supposed to work. If 
a person enjoys the on-line format, it's -there- for them to use. If 
they like this format, it's there for them to use. If they like both, 
it's there for them to use. 
I think about how I got to the PI forum and see postings from Jack 
DeRyke, who also posts on this email list. I'm a members of many 
on-line forums and I go there when I need to, but I'm more dedicated to 
this list and as Chuck Engles pointed out in another email, this is 
like walking into a pub and sitting down among friends with a pint of 
beer and just shooting the breeze. 
An on-line forum can be that way too, especially if you get email 
delivery of all the postings; though you still have to go on-line to 
reply. 
The new POCA forum has pretty much the same features as the old on-line 
forum that was on the old web-site, but it hardly got used. I tried to 
stimulate some use early on, but nothing much happened. The new web 
site is more exciting and has the added benefit of tracking actual 
memberships as well. That part doesn't work as well for folks who are 
a little Internet shy or who don't have email, but it's what I think 
is a step in the right direction; I'm just not sure I agree with how 
it's all being kind of forced on people. 
But I agree that both formats are viable and useful. 
Asa Jay 
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
& Shelley Marie 
Spokane, WA 
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On 5/21/2016 2:39 AM, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso wrote: 

Begin forwarded message: 

From: Dennis Valdez [3]<[1]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com> 
Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT 
To: Larry Finch [4]<[2]fresnofinches at aol.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site 

Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong with 
the tool. I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great like 
the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity. 
Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now the 
POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find 
information. This email stream is like sitting at a big table with a 
lot of your friends having several conversations at once about 
different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea how 
to search the years of history to find stuff. 
Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is to 
keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new and 
old friends with a common interest in great cars. So wherever I find 
those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they prefer. 

On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso 
[5]<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote: 

All, 

I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don't hate. I like 
new and shiny things) 

It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to 
use. Smart phone use is quite trying. 

What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus 
the volume of this resurrected email list. 

I think I'm being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the 
POCA forum by at least 10 to 1. 

Not sure what that means, but it must mean something.......... 

Just saying. ;-) 

Larry - 

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Message: 16 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:20:12 -0700 
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message 
Message-ID: <57406E9C.80605 at asajay.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 

Hi email was fairly well written, I agreed with the general sentiment 
about 60-70%, but it was in the delivery of other certain detail and in 
some cases flat out lies, that really chapped my behind. This to me is 
the problem, he's got some good ideas, but it's either -all- his way or 
people are malcontents, resistance fighters, don't care about 
"progressing" the club or are being stubborn at accepting the "will" of 
the 77% who elected him. He doesn't seem to really understand how a 
real republic works, at least in my understanding. 
Chuck, 
What I'd -really- like to know are the following facts: 
- How many members were in POCA at the time of the election 
- How many members actually voted 
- Of those, how many voted for MS 
It's a manipulative statistic. He says he got 77% of the vote. Well, 
if that was only of who voted, and only 20% of the membership voted... 
I'm sorry, I don't call that a mandate. 
I have several other "issues" with how he said some things in his 
"address" but my goodness did you go through the survey he sent out? 
Asa Jay 
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
& Shelley Marie 
Spokane, WA 
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[1]http://w7tsc.org 
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com 

On 5/21/2016 6:27 AM, Charles Engles wrote: 

Dear Forum, 



After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I 
understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man. 
He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting, 
business, entertainment, politics and leadership. 


His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that is 
gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is 
reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and 
Maduro. This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace 
and compromise. 


Our Messiah has come. 



Reverentially yours, Chuck Engles 



PS: The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me 
of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating your 
wife?" 





From: Pantera Owner's Club of America([3]michaelsavga at gmail.com) 
[[4]mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM 
To: [5]cengles at cox.net 
Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message 


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Greetings POCA Members, 


In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which 
was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until 
Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There 
are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great 
deal to me). 


There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the 
following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club 
in general at the banquet". 

You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being 
aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding 
of my Dog's issues as a result. 


You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do 
now. Please forgive me being a fews days late. 


2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS 

A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for 
hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins. I do enjoy 
the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like 
golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often 
make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear 
graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some 
of us do these things every weekend, if not every day. 

I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change 
in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met in 
person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as 
our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a 
fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise). 

I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had 
never met most of you last year. You all know Rob; he is a nice guy 
who also cares deeply about this club. 

Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one 
open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my 
shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed. 
While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both 
thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long 
established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of 
action. 

I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last 
January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious 
beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my 
whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months. Most of 
it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being 
supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8 
elected positions and the Past President. 

I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf; 
this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and 
for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to 
divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent 
weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's, 
corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with 
such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election 
results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a 
mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for 
the future. If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced 
change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and 
worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive 
unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the 
betterment of the club. 

That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening 
here. 

I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on 
during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you 
most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own 
social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community. For fun, 
I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41 
Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38 
times. I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will 
turn into win #39 next Tuesday. Respectable discourse and debate are 
not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to 
me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side 
that was not successful understood those who voted made 
a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform. Never in 
my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not 
mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along 
famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing and 
pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent, 
that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club. 

Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff. 

On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President; 
he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and 
former Fortune 500 Executive. You are lucky to have him standing by 
"just in case". He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting 
me know I'm doing the right thing. We have never voted on opposite 
sides. 

When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe 
works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone 
dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a 
teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our 
peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue. 

Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer 
whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6 
months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts. Ed works weird 
hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in 
Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted 
differently. 

Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John 
Buckman. A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and 
guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the 
bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to 
speed on many items. Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to 
my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect 
John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of 
what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a 
person who proves, "you can't win them all". 

It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that 
we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as 
your POCA President. 

We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply 
are no secrets about money within POCA. We have a $100,000 reserve in 
the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not 
produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With 
no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy. 

I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA 
Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus 
far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are 
always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh 
ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve 
POCA members. I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling, 
no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal. It 
is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President 
of their respective chapters. 

I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club; 
it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated 
soon. 

We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers 
to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership; 
that effort did not pass. 

I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I 
signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it. 
It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make 
personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to 
rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity 
out of the document, I have not represented it for additional 
signatures. 

I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete 
and the result debuted on May 7th. It exceeded my expectations and 
I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to 
visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership. 
I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates 
well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am 
proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, 
signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several 
months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are 
normally processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; 
when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member 
number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a 
few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the 
website. Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account 
within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the 
same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc. At the 
same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and 
the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications 
archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF 
manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell. It's now FREE 
to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library. You 
will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a 
better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus 
protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to share 
information, ask for or give advice. 

On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to 
showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to 
submit, please rename the file name to your name ("JohnSmithPantera") 
and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email 
it to [6]"[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change 
the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting views 
and colors. 

I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year 
(N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of 
the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as 
those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these 
will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA 
East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by 
Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA 
National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity 
guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to 
facilitate these events. I believe the chapters should run 
the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party 
others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show 
community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being 
sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the 
show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show, 
everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only 
participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and 
conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be 
a responsibility of the host chapter. 

Can I have an Amen on that? 


Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the 
President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get 
preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but 
please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home 
safe again. 

I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which 
was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at 
all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't, 
those are the same people to voice your opinion too. 

The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally 
Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan 
and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of 
the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who 
attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance 
have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results. 

We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the 
old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws 
used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to 
determine what is common among car clubs. 

I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should 
be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was 
supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not 
happened. 

It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self 
sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every 
other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also 
not happened. 

I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and 
Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more 
than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to 
produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me 
as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary duty to ensure that YOUR money 
is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner 
in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional 
media for 36 years. 

What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both 
publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly 
Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and 
all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4 
issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover, 
sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black 
and White. The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it 
often arrives looking worse for wear. Profiles is usually mailed in a 
large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from 
moisture. 


So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive 
bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club, 
organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition, 
to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and 
grateful for their continued patronage. All well run companies, 
churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled 
to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and 
competitive prices, service and support. 


What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to 
deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to 
back. A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre 
drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles 
magazine in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to 
your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked 
bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over 
what we are now paying for Black and White. 


$8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is 
almost 20% of our total budget. Yet I am meeting a great deal 
of resistance. 


As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save 
all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles. For 
this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance. 


During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in 
attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted 
guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues 
by $10 per member to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At 
first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math, 
we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a 
voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these 
publications. 

I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend, 
details below. 


I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow 
any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a 
recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the 
club) by helping us grow. That program is now underway and has it's 
own button on the lower menu on the website. 

If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the 
following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch. 

If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and 
Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented 
with a GOLD POCA patch. 

For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are 
presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay 
National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you 
are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch. 

To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have 
redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of 
the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to 
keep stowed away in their car. The brochure directs new member 
prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that process, 
they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to ensure 
they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards. 

I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new 
chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested 
in the UK and France. On the new website, fully 33% of the newly 
joined members in the last week are International members. 

I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that 
too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta 
Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model. The 
Qvale Club may even roll into POCA. 

Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than 
Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all 
DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change 
the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz 
or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest. 

I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build 
up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did 
not happen. I still believe the strength of any National club is 
derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand 
the concept; it works. To my way of thinking, a National club is only 
as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the 
chapters. Helping build membership and spreading their influence, 
to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody 
knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the 
limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength 
comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak 
roots. 

Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can, 
but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once 
per year. I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every 
member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay 
local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew. 

We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want 
to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily. 

We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are 
entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance 
from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent 
to call. Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA 
members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you 
wish to turn on to our members, please contact me. 

In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for 
volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be 
the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star, 
not the member who owns it. 

We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen. 

We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November 
where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday 
and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic. I 
have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars. I 
am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC. Qvale, 
Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the 
Pantera. It is a very prestigious event with tons of national 
automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result. 

I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort, 
something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my 
own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did 
not pass. 

Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we 
devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program 
to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and 
develops an emergency issue. You can provide help in any number of 
ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out 
to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem. All 
you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero. 

Here are some things that you can expect in the near future. 

Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua, 
Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a 
member. 

Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will 
also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for 
chapter events, car shows, etc. 

I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present 
to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have 
higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must 
deliver upon those expectations. 

NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new 
POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store. I carried 60 lbs of 
samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review 
with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival 
those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will 
challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get 
settled. Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments 
and always great customer service. 

That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months, 
updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA 
Membership experience. 

The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause 
for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way 
through to make all of this happen for you. Others outside the BOD who 
have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob 
Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile. 

On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind 
and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members 
first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland 
Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls. 

There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big 
news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become 
in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more. We need to be 
nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and 
always represent as a positive, fun experience. 

We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age 
of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be 
active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of 
a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members who 
have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people. 

The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys 
with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and 
fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply 
investors. 

We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what 
members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer 
a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and 
new members alike. 

It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer. Outwardly 
over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the 
programs listed above. I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best 
for the club. 

We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally 
declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next 
April. Here's the problem: the BOD never discussed it. We appointed 
Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was 
ever made for 2017 or beyond. So the Fun Rally may very well still 
take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will 
be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you 
is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward. You 
read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter 
driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to 
success. 

Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff. I have been 
called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and 
select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they 
have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules, 
violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape, 
and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890 
people consume 75% of my time and attention. 

Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the 
meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item 
agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show 
Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that 
we must all work to change. 

POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we 
preach. We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch 
of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more 
of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a 
few. Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and 
be nice. 


Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the 
move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the 
existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an 
Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website 
to manage our records. It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe 
Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old 
addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer 
many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too, 
we could not have done it without them. 


We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error 
rate. I know that many of you are still getting late membership due 
notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to 
correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments 
reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster. 
If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid 
your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit 
card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done 
for 30 members in the last 10 days. I'm sorry it is happening to you, 
if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these 
issues instantly and you can double check your address, email 
and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications 
on time. 


My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to 
move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most 
importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of 
the BOD, we have kept many of those promises. 


Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on 
the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it 
should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math 
questions, I promise. 


Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have 
representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the 
message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart. I will 
do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the 
same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera. 


Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for 
the survey coming very soon after this email. 

Michael Shortt 

President 

POCA 


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Message: 17 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:23:33 -0700 
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion 
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Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered 
because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully 
don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone else 
so you can do what you want. 
I think the man is a closet narcissist. Why can't we have a middle of 
the road solution? 
Example. 
He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter. But what about those 
members who don't? Can't there be a happy medium where those who want 
electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who want a 
paper copy can get a paper copy? 
According to him... no. There can be no happy medium. You will 
conform or you will leave. 
Asa Jay 
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
& Shelley Marie 
Spokane, WA 
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On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote: 

Hi Guys, 

I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't. 

Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are 
designed to support one viewpoint over another. 

For example: 

1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new 
President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club 
forward. 

O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the 
difference. 

O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone. 

The responses can be interpreted thusly: 

A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot. 

B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way. 

Seriously? 

How about? 

C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is 
alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message. 

D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what 
they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort 
through their responses. 

Will. 

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Message: 18 
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC) 
From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net> 
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>, 
"detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
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Where was Michael's "humble statement" posted. I don't recall seeing it?Forest 

From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> 
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message 

? Hi email was fairly well written, I agreed with the general sentiment 
? about 60-70%, but it was in the delivery of other certain detail and in 
? some cases flat out lies, that really chapped my behind.? This to me is 
? the problem, he's got some good ideas, but it's either -all- his way or 
? people are malcontents, resistance fighters, don't care about 
? "progressing" the club or are being stubborn at accepting the "will" of 
? the 77% who elected him.? He doesn't seem to really understand how a 
? real republic works, at least in my understanding. 
? Chuck, 
? What I'd -really- like to know are the following facts: 
? - How many members were in POCA at the time of the election 
? - How many members actually voted 
? - Of those, how many voted for MS 
? It's a manipulative statistic.? He says he got 77% of the vote.? Well, 
? if that was only of who voted, and only 20% of the membership voted... 
? I'm sorry, I don't call that a mandate. 
? I have several other "issues" with how he said some things in his 
? "address" but my goodness did you go through the survey he sent out? 
? Asa? Jay 
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired 
& Shelley Marie 
Spokane, WA 
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? On 5/21/2016 6:27 AM, Charles Engles wrote: 

? Dear Forum, 



? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I 
? understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man. 
? He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting, 
? business, entertainment, politics and leadership. 


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that? is 
? gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is 
? reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and 
? Maduro.? This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace 
? and compromise. 


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Our Messiah has come. 



? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Reverentially yours,? Chuck Engles 



? PS:? The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me 
? of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating your 
? wife?" 





? From: Pantera Owner's Club of America([3]michaelsavga at gmail.com) 
? [[4]mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com] 
? Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM 
? To: [5]cengles at cox.net 
? Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message 


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? [1]View in your browser 
? _______________________________________________________________________ 

? Greetings POCA Members, 


? In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which 
? was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until 
? Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There 
? are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great 
? deal to me). 


? There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the 
? following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club 
? in general at the banquet". 

? You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being 
? aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding 
? of my Dog's issues as a result. 


? You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do 
? now. Please forgive me being a fews days late. 


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS 

? A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for 
? hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.? I do enjoy 
? the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like 
? golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often 
? make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear 
? graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some 
? of us do these things every weekend, if not every day. 

? I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change 
? in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met in 
? person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as 
? our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a 
? fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise). 

? I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had 
? never met most of you last year.? You all know Rob; he is a nice guy 
? who also cares deeply about this club. 

? Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one 
? open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my 
? shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed. 
? While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both 
? thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long 
? established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of 
? action. 

? I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last 
? January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious 
? beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my 
? whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.? Most of 
? it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being 
? supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8 
? elected positions and the Past President. 

? I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf; 
? this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and 
? for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to 
? divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent 
? weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's, 
? corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with 
? such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election 
? results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a 
? mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for 
? the future.? If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced 
? change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and 
? worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive 
? unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the 
? betterment of the club. 

? That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening 
? here. 

? I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on 
? during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you 
? most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own 
? social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.? For fun, 
? I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41 
? Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38 
? times.? I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will 
? turn into win #39 next Tuesday.? Respectable discourse and debate are 
? not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to 
? me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side 
? that was not successful understood those who voted made 
? a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform.? Never in 
? my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not 
? mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along 
? famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing and 
? pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent, 
? that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club. 

? Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff. 

? On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President; 
? he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and 
? former Fortune 500 Executive.? You are lucky to have him standing by 
? "just in case".? He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting 
? me know I'm doing the right thing.? We have never voted on opposite 
? sides. 

? When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe 
? works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone 
? dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a 
? teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our 
? peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue. 

? Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer 
? whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6 
? months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.? Ed works weird 
? hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in 
? Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted 
? differently. 

? Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John 
? Buckman.? A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and 
? guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the 
? bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to 
? speed on many items.? Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to 
? my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect 
? John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of 
? what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a 
? person who proves, "you can't win them all". 

? It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that 
? we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as 
? your POCA President. 

? We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply 
? are no secrets about money within POCA.? We have a $100,000 reserve in 
? the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not 
? produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With 
? no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy. 

? I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA 
? Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus 
? far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are 
? always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh 
? ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve 
? POCA members.? I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling, 
? no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.? It 
? is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President 
? of their respective chapters. 

? I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club; 
? it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated 
? soon. 

? We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers 
? to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership; 
? that effort did not pass. 

? I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I 
? signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it. 
? ? It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make 
? personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to 
? rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity 
? out of the document, I have not represented it for additional 
? signatures. 

? I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete 
? and the result debuted on May 7th.? It exceeded my expectations and 
? I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to 
? visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership. 
? I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates 
? well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am 
? proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, 
? signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several 
? months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are 
? normally processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; 
? when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member 
? number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a 
? few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the 
? website.? Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account 
? within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the 
? same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc.? At the 
? same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and 
? the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications 
? archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF 
? manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell.? It's now FREE 
? to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library. You 
? will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a 
? better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus 
? protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to share 
? information, ask for or give advice. 

? On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to 
? showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to 
? submit, please rename the file name to your name ("JohnSmithPantera") 
? and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email 
? it to [6]"[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change 
? the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting views 
? and colors. 

? I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year 
? (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of 
? the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as 
? those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these 
? will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA 
? East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by 
? Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA 
? National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity 
? guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to 
? facilitate these events.? I believe the chapters should run 
? the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party 
? others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show 
? community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being 
? sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the 
? show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show, 
? everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only 
? participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and 
? conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be 
? a responsibility of the host chapter. 

? Can I have an Amen on that? 


? Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the 
? President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get 
? preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but 
? please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home 
? safe again. 

? I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which 
? was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at 
? all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't, 
? those are the same people to voice your opinion too. 

? The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally 
? Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan 
? and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of 
? the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who 
? attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance 
? have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results. 

? We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the 
? old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws 
? used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to 
? determine what is common among car clubs. 

? I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should 
? be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was 
? supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not 
? happened. 

? It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self 
? sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every 
? other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also 
? not happened. 

? I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and 
? Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more 
? than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to 
? produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me 
? as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary? duty to ensure that YOUR money 
? is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner 
? in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional 
? media for 36 years. 

? What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both 
? publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly 
? Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and 
? all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4 
? issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover, 
? sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black 
? and White.? The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it 
? often arrives looking worse for wear.? Profiles is usually mailed in a 
? large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from 
? moisture. 


? So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive 
? bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club, 
? organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition, 
? to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and 
? grateful for their? continued patronage.? All well run companies, 
? churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled 
? to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and 
? competitive prices, service and support. 


? What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to 
? deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to 
? back.? A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre 
? drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles 
? magazine? in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to 
? your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked 
? bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over 
? what we are now paying for Black and White. 


? $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is 
? almost 20% of our total budget.? Yet I am meeting a great deal 
? of resistance. 


? As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save 
? all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.? For 
? this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance. 


? During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in 
? attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted 
? guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues 
? by $10 per member? to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At 
? first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math, 
? we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a 
? voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these 
? publications. 

? I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend, 
? details below. 


? I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow 
? any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a 
? recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the 
? club) by helping us grow.? That program is now underway and has it's 
? own button on the lower menu on the website. 

? If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the 
? following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch. 

? If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and 
? Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented 
? with a GOLD POCA patch. 

? For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are 
? presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay 
? National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you 
? are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch. 

? To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have 
? redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of 
? the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to 
? keep stowed away in their car.? The brochure directs new member 
? prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that process, 
? they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to ensure 
? they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards. 

? I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new 
? chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested 
? in the UK and France.? On the new website, fully 33% of the newly 
? joined members in the last week are International members. 

? I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that 
? too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta 
? Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.? The 
? Qvale Club may even roll into POCA. 

? Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than 
? Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all 
? DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change 
? the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz 
? or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest. 

? I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build 
? up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did 
? not happen.? I still believe the strength of any National club is 
? derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand 
? the concept; it works.? To my way of thinking, a National club is only 
? as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the 
? chapters.? Helping build membership and spreading their influence, 
? to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody 
? knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the 
? limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength 
? comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak 
? roots. 

? Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can, 
? but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once 
? per year.? I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every 
? member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay 
? local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew. 

? We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want 
? to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily. 

? We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are 
? entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance 
? from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent 
? to call.? Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA 
? members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you 
? wish to turn on to our members, please contact me. 

? In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for 
? volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be 
? the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star, 
? not the member who owns it. 

? We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen. 

? We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November 
? where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday 
? and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.? I 
? have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.? I 
? am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.? Qvale, 
? Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the 
? Pantera.? It is a very prestigious event with tons of national 
? automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result. 

? I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort, 
? something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my 
? own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did 
? not pass. 

? Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we 
? devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program 
? to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and 
? develops an emergency issue.? You can provide help in any number of 
? ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out 
? to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.? All 
? you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero. 

? Here are some things that you can expect in the near future. 

? Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua, 
? Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a 
? member. 

? Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will 
? also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for 
? chapter events, car shows, etc. 

? I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present 
? to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 h 

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      1. Re: Thought I'd Test an Attachment (Bill Moore)
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      3. Re: Affordable DeTomaso for sale... (Bill Moore)
      4. This list versus new POCA site (Larry Finch)
      5. Re: Can we contribute through Paypal? (Asa Jay Laughton)
      6. Re: Thought I'd Test an Attachment (Curt Hall)
      7. Fwd:  This list versus new POCA site (Dennis Valdez)
      8. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Charles Engles)
      9. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (scottcouchman at yahoo.com)
     10. FW: We want your opinion (Will Kooiman)
     11. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Stephen)
     12. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Stephen)
     13. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Corey Price)
     14. Re: FW: We want your opinion (scottcouchman at yahoo.com)
     15. Re: Fwd:  This list versus new POCA site (Asa Jay Laughton)
     16. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Asa Jay Laughton)
     17. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Asa Jay Laughton)
     18. Re: 2016 State of POCA Message (Forest Goodhart)
     19. Re: FW: We want your opinion (Himes, Terry (397C))
     20. Re: Electric problem (Mikael)
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   Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:47:41 -0600
   From: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
   To: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment
   Message-ID: <l8ynna5gw0rue9qsmkuxrdum.1463791661241 at email.android.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

   Works for me !
   Cheers,
   Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary
   -------- Original message --------
   From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>
   Date: 2016-05-20  6:42 PM  (GMT-07:00)
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment
   First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if
   this
   slick50 poster girl slides in
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      Works for me !
      Cheers,
      Bill Moore
      Incendium Supply
      Calgary
      -------- Original message --------
      From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>
      Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00)
      To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment
      First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if
      this
      slick50 poster girl slides in
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   Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:55:42 -0700
   From: "Doug" <doug351c at gmail.com>
   To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Test
   Message-ID: <010e01d1b2fb$80dba9f0$8292fdd0$@gmail.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   I love this old-school email forum and the fact that it's continuing
   !!!

   Can you hear me now?  TESTING 1 - 2 -3 ?  Earth To Forum?

   Doug Braun
   Blue 73L #5505
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      I love this old-school email forum and the fact that it's continuing
      !!!
      Can you hear me now?  TESTING 1 - 2 -3 ?  Earth To Forum?
      Doug Braun
      Blue 73L #5505
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   Message: 3
   Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 19:03:53 -0600
   From: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
   To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Affordable DeTomaso for sale...
   Message-ID: <41npdxubg2k6byx6aev080mo.1463792633890 at email.android.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

   How is your eye, feeling better ?
   Cheers,
   Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary
   -------- Original message --------
   From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Date: 2016-05-20  4:43 PM  (GMT-07:00)
   To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Affordable DeTomaso for sale...
   Yes, they still exist.? Question is, would you really want a 1989
   Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo?? I imagine it's good on gas!? Think of
   all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying
   this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true
   Just the messenger!Garth#4033
   ?? Yes, they still exist.? Question is, would you really want a 1989
   ?? Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo?? I imagine it's good on gas!? Think
   of
   ?? all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying
   ?? this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing.
   ?? [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true
   ?? Just the messenger!
   ?? Garth
   ?? #4033
   References
   ?? 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true
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      How is your eye, feeling better ?
      Cheers,
      Bill Moore
      Incendium Supply
      Calgary
      -------- Original message --------
      From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
      Date: 2016-05-20 4:43 PM (GMT-07:00)
      To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Affordable DeTomaso for sale...
      Yes, they still exist.  Question is, would you really want a 1989
      Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo?  I imagine it's good on gas!  Think
   of
      all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save buying
      this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing.
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true
      Just the messenger!Garth#4033
         Yes, they still exist.  Question is, would you really want a 1989
         Innocenti Mini DeTomaso Turbo?  I imagine it's good on gas!
   Think
      of
         all the Pantera parts you could buy with the money you'd save
   buying
         this over some new Prius-Leaf-Volt-hybrid thing.
         [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true
         Just the messenger!
         Garth
         #4033
      References
         1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/272244416705?rmvSB=true
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   Message: 4
   Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 20:59:43 -0700
   From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
   To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site
   Message-ID: <5115F780-1A48-427D-A16B-F4860A1C0291 at aol.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
   All,
   I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don?t hate. I like
   new and shiny things)
   It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to
   use. Smart phone use is quite trying.
   What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus the
   volume of this resurrected email list.
   I think I?m being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the POCA
   forum by at least 10 to 1.
   Not sure what that means, but it must mean something???.
   Just saying.  ;-)
   Larry -
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   Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:07:04 -0700
   From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Can we contribute through Paypal?
   Message-ID: <573FDEE8.8000309 at asajay.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
   I think... I like the way -you- think.... even better than Rob.  ;)
   Blondes Brunettes and Redheads.  My dad taught me right.
   Asa  Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   &  Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
   http://w7tsc.org
   http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   On 5/20/2016 10:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
   > <<  then we'll just have to get sneaky in some other way to help him
   out with
   > costs.>>
   >
   > Redhead?
   >
   >
   > Larry (may as well start off right) - Cleveland
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   > Of Asa Jay Laughton
   > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:56 AM
   > To: Mark Charlton
   > Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Ken Green
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Can we contribute through Paypal?
   >
   > Hi Mark (and all),
   > Kurt is still working diligently along with a little help from Mark
   > McWhinney (both of whom I think are a lot smarter than me on these
   > things), to get the list server where it needs to be with regard to
   > extra security.
   >
   > I think Kurt will give us the proper PayPal email (if he does PayPal)
   at
   > some point shortly.  If not, then we'll just have to get sneaky in
   some
   > other way to help him out with costs.  ;)
   >
   > Asa  Jay
   >
   > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   > &   Shelley Marie
   > Spokane, WA
   > ******************************
   > http://w7tsc.org
   > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   >
   >
   > On 5/19/2016 7:05 PM, Mark Charlton wrote:
   >> Asa Jay,
   >>
   >> If there was an email that we could all make a modest PayPal
   contribution
   > (as a gift, so no fees), those who want to contribute could and
   nobody who
   > doesn't would feel obliged.
   >> Ready when you are.
   >>
   >> Mark Charlton
   >> pantera01826 at rogers.com
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> On May 19, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Asa Jay Laughton<asajay at asajay.com>
   wrote:
   >>
   >>>     I like the way you think.  ;)
   >>>     Asa
   >>>     Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
   >>>
   >>>     Rob Dumoulin<rob at dumoulins.net>   wrote:
   >>>     Seems like the $ costs may be minimal, but there has to be a
   way to
   >>>     make up
   >>>     for the human costs.  Anybody know how to email a shot of
   bourbon?
   >>>     Rob
   >>>     On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Kurt Byrnes<kdb at kbyrnes.com>
   wrote:
   >>>>     I'm waiting to see how much data/bandwidth we need.  The list
   is
   >>>     on a
   >>>>     virtual private server.  Current limits are 2TB data transfer
   per
   >>>>     month, 20 GB disk space.  Since it's an "unmanaged" server,
   cost
   >>>     is
   >>>>     only $5/month.  If we exceed the 2TB/month, cost goes up by $1
   per
   >>>>     TB/month.  We're using 13GB of disk which includes a couple
   copies
   >>>     of
   >>>>     the archives so we'll be fine on space.
   >>>>     Kurt
   >>>>     On 5/19/2016 1:54 PM, Ken Green wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>     Hi Kurt,
   >>>>          I'm sure a bunch of us really appreciate your efforts on
   >>>     this.
   >>>>     Can we contribute to your expenses?
   >>>>     Ken
   >>>>
   >>>
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   >>>     use
   >>>> the links above.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>        Seems like the $ costs may be minimal, but there has to be a
   way to
   >>>        make up for the human costs.A  Anybody know how to email a
   shot of
   >>>        bourbon?
   >>>        RobA
   >>>        On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Kurt
   Byrnes<[1]kdb at kbyrnes.com>
   >>>        wrote:
   >>>          A  A I'm waiting to see how much data/bandwidth we need.A
    The
   >>>     list
   >>>          is on a
   >>>          A  A virtual private server.A  Current limits are 2TB data
   >>>     transfer
   >>>          per
   >>>          A  A month, 20 GB disk space.A  Since it's an "unmanaged"
   server,
   >>>          cost is
   >>>          A  A only $5/month.A  If we exceed the 2TB/month, cost
   goes up by
   >>>     $1
   >>>          per
   >>>          A  A TB/month.A  We're using 13GB of disk which includes a
   couple
   >>>          copies of
   >>>          A  A the archives so we'll be fine on space.
   >>>          A  A Kurt
   >>>        A  A On 5/19/2016 1:54 PM, Ken Green wrote:
   >>>        A  A Hi Kurt,
   >>>        A  A  A  A  I'm sure a bunch of us really appreciate your
   efforts
   > on
   >>>        this.
   >>>        A  A Can we contribute to your expenses?
   >>>        A  A Ken
   >>>        A  A
   >>>        A
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   Message: 6
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:10:27 +0000 (UTC)
   From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
   To: Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>, MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>,
           "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment
   Message-ID:
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   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   The Slick Photo came though! But want the hell is that funny looking
   yellow car? lol
       On Friday, May 20, 2016 5:48 PM, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
   wrote:

    ? Works for me !
   ? Cheers,
   ? Bill Moore
   ? Incendium Supply
   ? Calgary
   ? -------- Original message --------
   ? From: MyCars <mycars at comcast.net>
   ? Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00)
   ? To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   ? Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment
   ? First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this if
   ? this
   ? slick50 poster girl slides in
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      The Slick Photo came though! But want the hell is that funny looking
      yellow car? lol
      On Friday, May 20, 2016 5:48 PM, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
   wrote:
        Works for me !
        Cheers,
        Bill Moore
        Incendium Supply
        Calgary
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        From: MyCars <[1]mycars at comcast.net>
        Date: 2016-05-20 6:42 PM (GMT-07:00)
        To: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
        Subject: [DeTomaso] Thought I'd Test an Attachment
        First try didn't work ... image was too large. Let's see if this
   if
        this
        slick50 poster girl slides in
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   Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 02:39:31 -0700
   From: Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   To: "Pantera List detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd:  This list versus new POCA site
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   Begin forwarded message:
   > From: Dennis Valdez <sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
   > Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT
   > To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site
   >
   > Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong
   with the tool.  I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great
   like the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity.
   >
   > Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now the
   POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find
   information.  This email stream is like sitting at a big table with a
   lot of your friends having several conversations at once about
   different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea how
   to search the years of history to find stuff.
   >
   > Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is
   to keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new
   and old friends with a common interest in great cars.  So wherever I
   find those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they
   prefer.
   >
   >> On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >>
   >> All,
   >>
   >> I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don?t hate. I like
   new and shiny things)
   >>
   >> It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to
   use. Smart phone use is quite trying.
   >>
   >> What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus
   the volume of this resurrected email list.
   >>
   >> I think I?m being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the
   POCA forum by at least 10 to 1.
   >>
   >> Not sure what that means, but it must mean something???.
   >>
   >> Just saying.  ;-)
   >>
   >> Larry -
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
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      Begin forwarded message:
      From: Dennis Valdez <[1]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
      Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT
      To: Larry Finch <[2]fresnofinches at aol.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site
      Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong
   with
      the tool.  I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great
   like
      the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity.
      Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now
   the
      POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find
      information.  This email stream is like sitting at a big table with
   a
      lot of your friends having several conversations at once about
      different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea
   how
      to search the years of history to find stuff.
      Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is
   to
      keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new
   and
      old friends with a common interest in great cars.  So wherever I
   find
      those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they
   prefer.
        On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
        <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
        All,
        I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don't hate. I
   like
        new and shiny things)
        It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy
   to
        use. Smart phone use is quite trying.
        What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus
        the volume of this resurrected email list.
        I think I'm being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the
        POCA forum by at least 10 to 1.
        Not sure what that means, but it must mean something..........
        Just saying.  ;-)
        Larry -
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   Message: 8
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 08:27:52 -0500
   From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
   To: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message
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   Dear Forum,


                    After reading Mr. Shortt?s humble statement, I
   understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man.
   He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting,
   business, entertainment, politics and leadership.

                     His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that  is
   gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is
   reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and
   Maduro.   This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace
   and compromise.

                      Our Messiah has come.


                                    Reverentially yours,  Chuck Engles


   PS:  The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me
   of that clever courtroom interrogation: ?When did you stop beating your
   wife??




   From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com)
   [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com]
   Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM
   To: cengles at cox.net
   Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message

   View in your browser
   <http://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=722&club_id=999896&em
   tid=48579683612&mtid=293966696752&ht=0>
     _____
   Greetings POCA Members,

   In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which
   was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until
   Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There are
   questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great
   deal to me).

   There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the
   following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club
   in general at the banquet".
   You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being
   aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding
   of my Dog's issues as a result.

   You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do
   now. Please forgive me being a fews days late.

   2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS
   A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for
   hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.  I do enjoy
   the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like
   golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often
   make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear
   graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some
   of us do these things every weekend, if not every day.
   I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change
   in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D?Orazio, whom I met in
   person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as
   our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a
   fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise).
   I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had
   never met most of you last year.  You all know Rob; he is a nice guy
   who also cares deeply about this club.
   Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one
   open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my
   shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed.
   While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both
   thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long
   established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of
   action.
   I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last
   January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious
   beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my
   whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.  Most of
   it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being
   supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8
   elected positions and the Past President.
   I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf;
   this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and
   for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to
   divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent
   weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's,
   corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with
   such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election
   results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a
   mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for
   the future.  If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced
   change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and
   worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive
   unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the
   betterment of the club.
   That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening
   here.
   I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on
   during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you
   most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own
   social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.  For fun,
   I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41
   Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38
   times.  I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will
   turn into win #39 next Tuesday.  Respectable discourse and debate are
   not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to
   me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side
   that was not successful understood those who voted made a distinct
   choice and rejected their candidate or platform.  Never in my life have
   I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not mean Rob; he
   has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along famously in Las
   Vegas) just seem to keep
    on doing their own thing and pay no attention to the person elected or
   the mandate they represent, that is to lead and provide direction to
   the whole club.
   Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff.
   On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President;
   he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and
   former Fortune 500 Executive.  You are lucky to have him standing by
   "just in case".  He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting
   me know I'm doing the right thing.  We have never voted on opposite
   sides.
   When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe
   works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone
   dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a
   teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our
   peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue.
   Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer
   whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6
   months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.  Ed works weird
   hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in
   Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted
   differently.
   Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John
   Buckman.  A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and
   guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the
   bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to
   speed on many items.  Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to
   my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect
   John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of
   what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a
   person who proves, "you can't win them all".
   It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that
   we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as
   your POCA President.
   We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply
   are no secrets about money within POCA.  We have a $100,000 reserve in
   the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not
   produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With
   no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy.
   I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA
   Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus
   far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are
   always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh
   ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve
   POCA members.  I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling,
   no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.  It
   is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President
   of their respective chapters.
   I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club;
   it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated
   soon.
   We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers
   to any deceased member?s family if they had 10+years of membership;
   that effort did not pass.
   I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I
   signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it.
    It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make
   personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to
   rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity
   out of the document, I have not represented it for additional
   signatures.
   I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete
   and the result debuted on May 7th.  It exceeded my expectations and I'm
   very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to visit
   as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership.  I know
   it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates well and
   looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am proud of
   my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, signing up
   more new members in a week than we normally get in several months. It
   has processed more renewals in the last week than are normally
   processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; when the
   new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member number,
   their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a few
   minutes with their login and temporary password to use the website.
   Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account within hours,
   and the best part, the
    POCA database is set up at the same time with their address, email,
   telephone numbers, etc.  At the same time they are added to the mailing
   list for emails, Profiles and the monthly Newsletter. The website has
   over 450 POCA publications archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso,
   Ford, Modena, and ZF manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to
   sell.  It's now FREE to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the
   technical library. You will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for
   members only; it's a better and safer (we have extensive malware,
   phishing and virus protection programs in place, unlike the old email
   forum) way to share information, ask for or give advice.
   On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to showcase
   member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to submit, please
   rename the file name to your name (?JohnSmithPantera") and submit as a
   jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email it to "
   <mailto:pocaphotodrop at gmail.com> pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going
   to change the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of
   contrasting views and colors.
   I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year
   (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of
   the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as
   those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these
   will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA
   East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by
   Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA National
   should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity guidelines
   to be followed, insurance and registration support to facilitate these
   events.  I believe the chapters should run the rallies and profit,
   based upon their ability to throw a party others will pay to attend.
   The is a proven concept in the car show community, Club A will make a
   super effort to attend a car show being sponsored by Club B because
   Club A knows if they do not support the show, then Club B will not make
   any effort to support their
    show, everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only
   participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and
   conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be
   a responsibility of the host chapter.
   Can I have an Amen on that?

   Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the
   President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get
   preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but
   please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home
   safe again.
   I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which
   was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at
   all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't,
   those are the same people to voice your opinion too.
   The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally
   Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan
   and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of
   the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who
   attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance
   have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results.
   We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the
   old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws used
   by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to determine
   what is common among car clubs.
   I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should
   be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was
   supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not
   happened.
   It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self
   sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every
   other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also not
   happened.
   I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and
   Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more
   than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to
   produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me
   as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary  duty to ensure that YOUR money
   is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner
   in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional
   media for 36 years.
   What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both
   publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly
   Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and
   all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4
   issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover,
   sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black
   and White.  The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it
   often arrives looking worse for wear.  Profiles is usually mailed in a
   large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from
   moisture.

   So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive
   bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club,
   organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition,
   to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and
   grateful for their  continued patronage.  All well run companies,
   churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled
   to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and
   competitive prices, service and support.

   What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to
   deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to
   back.  A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre
   drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles
   magazine  in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to
   your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked
   bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over
   what we are now paying for Black and White.

   $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is
   almost 20% of our total budget.  Yet I am meeting a great deal of
   resistance.

   As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save
   all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.  For
   this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance.

   During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in
   attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted
   guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues
   by $10 per member  to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At
   first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math,
   we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a
   voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these
   publications.
   I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend,
   details below.

   I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow
   any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a
   recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the
   club) by helping us grow.  That program is now underway and has it's
   own button on the lower menu on the website.
   If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the
   following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch.
   If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and
   Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented
   with a GOLD POCA patch.
   For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are
   presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay
   National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you
   are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch.
   To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have
   redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of
   the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to keep
   stowed away in their car.  The brochure directs new member prospects to
   go online at  <http://poca.com/> poca.com to sign up; during that
   process, they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member
   to ensure they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards.
   I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new
   chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested
   in the UK and France.  On the new website, fully 33% of the newly
   joined members in the last week are International members.
   I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that
   too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta
   Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.  The
   Qvale Club may even roll into POCA.
   Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than
   Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all
   DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change
   the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz
   or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest.
   I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build
   up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did
   not happen.  I still believe the strength of any National club is
   derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand
   the concept; it works.  To my way of thinking, a National club is only
   as strong as it?s weakest chapter, we must do more to support the
   chapters.  Helping build membership and spreading their influence, to
   grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody knows
   the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the limbs,
   branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength comes
   from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak roots.
   Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can,
   but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once
   per year.  I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every
   member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay
   local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew.
   We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want
   to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily.
   We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are
   entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance from
   American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent to
   call.  Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA
   members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you
   wish to turn on to our members, please contact me.
   In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for
   volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be
   the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star,
   not the member who owns it.
   We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen.
   We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November
   where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday
   and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.  I
   have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.  I
   am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.  Qvale,
   Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the
   Pantera.  It is a very prestigious event with tons of national
   automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result.
   I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort,
   something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my
   own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did
   not pass.
   Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we
   devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program
   to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and
   develops an emergency issue.  You can provide help in any number of
   ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out
   to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.  All
   you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero.
   Here are some things that you can expect in the near future.
   Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua,
   Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a
   member.
   Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will
   also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for
   chapter events, car shows, etc.
   I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present
   to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have
   higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must
   deliver upon those expectations.
   NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new
   POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store.  I carried 60 lbs of
   samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review
   with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival
   those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will
   challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get
   settled.  Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments
   and always great customer service.
   That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months,
   updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA
   Membership experience.
   The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause
   for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way
   through to make all of this happen for you.  Others outside the BOD who
   have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob
   Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile.
   On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind
   and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members
   first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland
   Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls.
   There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big
   news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become
   in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more.  We need to be
   nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and
   always represent as a positive, fun experience.
   We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age
   of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be
   active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of a toy
   and more of an investment, already a great number of members who have
   "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people.
   The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys
   with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and
   fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply
   investors.
   We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what
   members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer
   a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and
   new members alike.
   It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer.  Outwardly
   over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the
   programs listed above.  I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best
   for the club.
   We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally
   declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next
   April.   Here?s the problem: the BOD never discussed it.  We appointed
   Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was
   ever made for 2017 or beyond.  So the Fun Rally may very well still
   take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will
   be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you
   is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward.  You
   read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter
   driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to
   success.
   Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff.  I have been
   called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and
   select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they
   have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules,
   violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape,
   and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890
   people consume 75% of my time and attention.
   Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the
   meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item
   agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show
   Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that
   we must all work to change.
   POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we
   preach.  We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch
   of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more
   of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a
   few.  Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and
   be nice.

   Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the
   move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the
   existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an
   Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website
   to manage our records.  It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe
   Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old
   addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer
   many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too,
   we could not have done it without them.

   We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error
   rate.  I know that many of you are still getting late membership due
   notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to
   correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments
   reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster.
   If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid
   your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit
   card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done
   for 30 members in the last 10 days.  I'm sorry it is happening to you,
   if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these
   issues instantly and you can double check your address, email and
   telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications on
   time.

   My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to
   move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most
   importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of
   the BOD, we have kept many of those promises.

   Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on the
   direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it
   should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math
   questions, I promise.

   Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have
   representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the
   message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart.  I will
   do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the
   same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera.

   Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for
   the survey coming very soon after this email.
   Michael Shortt
    President
   POCA


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      Dear Forum,
                       After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I
      understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man.
      He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting,
      business, entertainment, politics and leadership.
                        His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that
    is
      gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do,
   is
      reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini
   and
      Maduro.   This is the mandate for change that he modulates with
   grace
      and compromise.
                         Our Messiah has come.
                                       Reverentially yours,  Chuck Engles
      PS:  The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind
   me
      of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating
   your
      wife?"
      From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com)
      [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com]
      Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM
      To: cengles at cox.net
      Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message
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      Greetings POCA Members,
      In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey
   which
      was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until
      Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There
      are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a
   great
      deal to me).
      There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the
      following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the
   club
      in general at the banquet".
      You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was
   being
      aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer
   understanding
      of my Dog's issues as a result.
      You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to
   do
      now. Please forgive me being a fews days late.
                            2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS
      A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for
      hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.  I do
   enjoy
      the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like
      golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we
   often
      make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear
      graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting.
   Some
      of us do these things every weekend, if not every day.
      I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised
   change
      in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met
   in
      person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves
   as
      our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a
      fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise).
      I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I
   had
      never met most of you last year.  You all know Rob; he is a nice guy
      who also cares deeply about this club.
      Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one
      open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on
   my
      shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed.
      While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both
      thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long
      established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of
      action.
      I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last
      January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious
      beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my
      whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.  Most
   of
      it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not
   being
      supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8
      elected positions and the Past President.
      I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your
   behalf;
      this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in,
   and
      for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent
   to
      divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in
   recent
      weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's,
      corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard
   with
      such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the
   election
      results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a
      mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it
   for
      the future.  If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced
      change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members
   and
      worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive
      unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for
   the
      betterment of the club.
      That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not
   happening
      here.
      I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going
   on
      during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you
      most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own
      social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.  For
   fun,
      I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41
      Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38
      times.  I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications,
   will
      turn into win #39 next Tuesday.  Respectable discourse and debate
   are
      not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to
      me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the
   side
      that was not successful understood those who voted made
      a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform.  Never
   in
      my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do
   not
      mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along
      famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing
   and
      pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they
   represent,
      that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club.
      Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff.
      On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice
   President;
      he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner
   and
      former Fortune 500 Executive.  You are lucky to have him standing by
      "just in case".  He provides leadership, guidance and a way of
   letting
      me know I'm doing the right thing.  We have never voted on opposite
      sides.
      When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary;
   Joe
      works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone
      dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have
   a
      teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our
      peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue.
      Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a
   computer
      whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past
   6
      months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.  Ed works
   weird
      hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in
      Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted
      differently.
      Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John
      Buckman.  A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and
      guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all
   the
      bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up
   to
      speed on many items.  Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful
   to
      my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I
   respect
      John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most
   of
      what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a
      person who proves, "you can't win them all".
      It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named
   that
      we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as
      your POCA President.
      We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply
      are no secrets about money within POCA.  We have a $100,000 reserve
   in
      the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not
      produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues.
   With
      no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy.
      I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA
      Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record
   thus
      far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are
      always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share
   fresh
      ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better
   serve
      POCA members.  I enjoy these calls because there has been no
   yelling,
      no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.
    It
      is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the
   President
      of their respective chapters.
      I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the
   club;
      it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated
      soon.
      We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send
   flowers
      to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership;
      that effort did not pass.
      I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I
      signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign
   it.
       It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make
      personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to
      rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit
   integrity
      out of the document, I have not represented it for additional
      signatures.
      I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete
      and the result debuted on May 7th.  It exceeded my expectations and
      I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to
      visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger
   membership.
      I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates
      well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I
   am
      proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership,
      signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in
   several
      months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are
      normally processed in several months. The best part is it is
   automated;
      when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new
   member
      number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in
   a
      few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the
      website.  Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account
      within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the
      same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc.  At the
      same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles
   and
      the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications
      archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF
      manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell.  It's now
   FREE
      to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library.
   You
      will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a
      better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus
      protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to
   share
      information, ask for or give advice.
      On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to
      showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to
      submit, please rename the file name to your name
   ("JohnSmithPantera")
      and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb;
   email
      it to "[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change
      the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting
   views
      and colors.
      I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year
      (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts
   of
      the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity
   as
      those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of
   these
      will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016
   POCA
      East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by
      Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA
      National should be providing instruction and a set of proven
   activity
      guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to
      facilitate these events.  I believe the chapters should run
      the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party
      others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show
      community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show
   being
      sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the
      show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show,
      everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only
      participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items
   and
      conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should
   be
      a responsibility of the host chapter.
      Can I have an Amen on that?
      Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the
      President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get
      preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing,
   but
      please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was
   home
      safe again.
      I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas,
   which
      was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it
   at
      all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you
   didn't,
      those are the same people to voice your opinion too.
      The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun
   Rally
      Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who
   plan
      and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale
   of
      the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who
      attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance
      have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results.
      We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update
   the
      old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws
      used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to
      determine what is common among car clubs.
      I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter
   should
      be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was
      supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has
   not
      happened.
      It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self
      sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like
   every
      other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also
      not happened.
      I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and
      Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year
   (more
      than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to
      produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of
   me
      as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary  duty to ensure that YOUR
   money
      is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a
   partner
      in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional
      media for 36 years.
      What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both
      publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly
      Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink
   and
      all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for
   4
      issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover,
      sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are
   Black
      and White.  The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it
      often arrives looking worse for wear.  Profiles is usually mailed in
   a
      large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not
   from
      moisture.
      So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for
   competitive
      bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club,
      organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of
   competition,
      to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and
      grateful for their  continued patronage.  All well run companies,
      churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not
   entitled
      to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and
      competitive prices, service and support.
      What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to
      deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front
   to
      back.  A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre
      drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles
      magazine  in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to
      your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked
      bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year
   over
      what we are now paying for Black and White.
      $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is
      almost 20% of our total budget.  Yet I am meeting a great deal
      of resistance.
      As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save
      all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.  For
      this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance.
      During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had
   in
      attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other
   assorted
      guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our
   dues
      by $10 per member  to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter.
   At
      first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the
   math,
      we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve
   a
      voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these
      publications.
      I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend,
      details below.
      I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow
      any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a
      recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the
      club) by helping us grow.  That program is now underway and has it's
      own button on the lower menu on the website.
      If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for
   the
      following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch.
      If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and
      Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented
      with a GOLD POCA patch.
      For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are
      presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay
      National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you
      are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch.
      To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have
      redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of
      the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to
      keep stowed away in their car.  The brochure directs new member
      prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that
   process,
      they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to
   ensure
      they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards.
      I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new
      chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners
   interested
      in the UK and France.  On the new website, fully 33% of the newly
      joined members in the last week are International members.
      I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars,
   that
      too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale
   Mangusta
      Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.  The
      Qvale Club may even roll into POCA.
      Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than
      Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of
   all
      DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to
   change
      the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth,
   Liz
      or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest.
      I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help
   build
      up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also
   did
      not happen.  I still believe the strength of any National club is
      derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels
   understand
      the concept; it works.  To my way of thinking, a National club is
   only
      as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the
      chapters.  Helping build membership and spreading their influence,
      to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody
      knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the
      limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real
   strength
      comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak
      roots.
      Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you
   can,
      but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it
   once
      per year.  I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after
   every
      member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay
      local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew.
      We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who
   want
      to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily.
      We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are
      entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance
      from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right
   agent
      to call.  Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to
   POCA
      members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that
   you
      wish to turn on to our members, please contact me.
      In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for
      volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will
   be
      the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star,
      not the member who owns it.
      We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen.
      We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November
      where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on
   Saturday
      and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.  I
      have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.
    I
      am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.  Qvale,
      Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of
   the
      Pantera.  It is a very prestigious event with tons of national
      automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a
   result.
      I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort,
      something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with
   my
      own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also
   did
      not pass.
      Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we
      devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in
   program
      to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling
   and
      develops an emergency issue.  You can provide help in any number of
      ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going
   out
      to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.
   All
      you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA
   hero.
      Here are some things that you can expect in the near future.
      Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua,
      Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a
      member.
      Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that
   will
      also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for
      chapter events, car shows, etc.
      I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to
   present
      to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000
   have
      higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must
      deliver upon those expectations.
      NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a
   new
      POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store.  I carried 60 lbs of
      samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to
   review
      with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival
      those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will
      challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get
      settled.  Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments
      and always great customer service.
      That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months,
      updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA
      Membership experience.
      The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause
      for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way
      through to make all of this happen for you.  Others outside the BOD
   who
      have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich,
   Rob
      Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile.
      On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been
   kind
      and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members
      first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland
      Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls.
      There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really
   big
      news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to
   become
      in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more.  We need to be
      nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and
      always represent as a positive, fun experience.
      We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the
   age
      of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be
      active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of
      a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members
   who
      have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people.
      The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old
   guys
      with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and
      fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply
      investors.
      We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see
   what
      members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is
   offer
      a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and
      new members alike.
      It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer.  Outwardly
      over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the
      programs listed above.  I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best
      for the club.
      We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally
      declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next
      April.   Here's the problem: the BOD never discussed it.  We
   appointed
      Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was
      ever made for 2017 or beyond.  So the Fun Rally may very well still
      take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it
   will
      be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to
   you
      is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward.  You
      read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating
   Chapter
      driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to
      success.
      Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff.  I have
   been
      called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small
   and
      select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far;
   they
      have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD
   rules,
      violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape,
      and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890
      people consume 75% of my time and attention.
      Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the
      meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23
   item
      agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in
   Show
      Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture
   that
      we must all work to change.
      POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we
      preach.  We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a
   bunch
      of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie (
   more
      of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date
   a
      few.  Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead
   and
      be nice.
      Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the
      move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take
   the
      existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to
   an
      Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com
   website
      to manage our records.  It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez,
   Joe
      Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old
      addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer
      many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance
   too,
      we could not have done it without them.
      We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2%
   error
      rate.  I know that many of you are still getting late membership due
      notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working
   to
      correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments
      reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much
   faster.
      If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have
   paid
      your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt,
   credit
      card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have
   done
      for 30 members in the last 10 days.  I'm sorry it is happening to
   you,
      if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these
      issues instantly and you can double check your address, email
      and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA
   publications
      on time.
      My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was
   to
      move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and
   most
      importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of
      the BOD, we have kept many of those promises.
      Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on
      the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers,
   it
      should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no
   math
      questions, I promise.
      Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have
      representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send
   the
      message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart.  I
   will
      do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a
   the
      same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera.
      Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look
   for
      the survey coming very soon after this email.
      Michael Shortt
       President
      POCA

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   Message: 9
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:32:46 -0700
   From: scottcouchman at yahoo.com
   To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   Cc: "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message
   Message-ID: <395CA5CD-737A-49FF-8300-4BCB20656DC2 at yahoo.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain;        charset=us-ascii
   PS:  The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me
     of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating
   your
     wife?"
   Amen!
   > On May 21, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   >
   >   Dear Forum,
   >
   >
   >
   >                    After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I
   >   understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man.
   >   He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting,
   >   business, entertainment, politics and leadership.
   >
   >
   >                     His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that
    is
   >   gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do,
   is
   >   reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini
   and
   >   Maduro.   This is the mandate for change that he modulates with
   grace
   >   and compromise.
   >
   >
   >                      Our Messiah has come.
   >
   >
   >
   >                                    Reverentially yours,  Chuck Engles
   >
   >
   >
   >   PS:  The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind
   me
   >   of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating
   your
   >   wife?"
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >   From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com)
   >   [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com]
   >   Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM
   >   To: cengles at cox.net
   >   Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message
   >
   >
   >                           [1]View in your browser
   >
   _______________________________________________________________________
   >
   >   Greetings POCA Members,
   >
   >
   >   In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey
   which
   >   was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until
   >   Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There
   >   are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a
   great
   >   deal to me).
   >
   >
   >   There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the
   >   following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the
   club
   >   in general at the banquet".
   >
   >   You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was
   being
   >   aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer
   understanding
   >   of my Dog's issues as a result.
   >
   >
   >   You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to
   do
   >   now. Please forgive me being a fews days late.
   >
   >
   >                         2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS
   >
   >   A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for
   >   hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.  I do
   enjoy
   >   the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like
   >   golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we
   often
   >   make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and
   appear
   >   graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting.
   Some
   >   of us do these things every weekend, if not every day.
   >
   >   I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised
   change
   >   in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I
   met in
   >   person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves
   as
   >   our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a
   >   fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise).
   >
   >   I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I
   had
   >   never met most of you last year.  You all know Rob; he is a nice
   guy
   >   who also cares deeply about this club.
   >
   >   Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves
   one
   >   open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based
   on my
   >   shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it
   needed.
   >   While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both
   >   thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long
   >   established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of
   >   action.
   >
   >   I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last
   >   January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious
   >   beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my
   >   whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.
   Most of
   >   it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not
   being
   >   supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8
   >   elected positions and the Past President.
   >
   >   I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your
   behalf;
   >   this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in,
   and
   >   for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent
   to
   >   divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in
   recent
   >   weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's,
   >   corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard
   with
   >   such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the
   election
   >   results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a
   >   mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it
   for
   >   the future.  If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced
   >   change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members
   and
   >   worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive
   >   unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for
   the
   >   betterment of the club.
   >
   >   That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not
   happening
   >   here.
   >
   >   I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going
   on
   >   during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell
   you
   >   most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own
   >   social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.  For
   fun,
   >   I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41
   >   Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38
   >   times.  I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications,
   will
   >   turn into win #39 next Tuesday.  Respectable discourse and debate
   are
   >   not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new
   to
   >   me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the
   side
   >   that was not successful understood those who voted made
   >   a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform.  Never
   in
   >   my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do
   not
   >   mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along
   >   famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing
   and
   >   pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they
   represent,
   >   that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club.
   >
   >   Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff.
   >
   >   On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice
   President;
   >   he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner
   and
   >   former Fortune 500 Executive.  You are lucky to have him standing
   by
   >   "just in case".  He provides leadership, guidance and a way of
   letting
   >   me know I'm doing the right thing.  We have never voted on opposite
   >   sides.
   >
   >   When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary;
   Joe
   >   works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone
   >   dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have
   a
   >   teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our
   >   peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue.
   >
   >   Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a
   computer
   >   whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past
   6
   >   months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.  Ed works
   weird
   >   hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in
   >   Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted
   >   differently.
   >
   >   Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President,
   John
   >   Buckman.  A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and
   >   guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all
   the
   >   bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me
   up to
   >   speed on many items.  Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful
   to
   >   my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I
   respect
   >   John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for
   most of
   >   what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a
   >   person who proves, "you can't win them all".
   >
   >   It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named
   that
   >   we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as
   >   your POCA President.
   >
   >   We have opened up the financial books to member review; there
   simply
   >   are no secrets about money within POCA.  We have a $100,000 reserve
   in
   >   the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not
   >   produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues.
   With
   >   no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy.
   >
   >   I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA
   >   Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record
   thus
   >   far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings
   are
   >   always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share
   fresh
   >   ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better
   serve
   >   POCA members.  I enjoy these calls because there has been no
   yelling,
   >   no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.
    It
   >   is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the
   President
   >   of their respective chapters.
   >
   >   I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the
   club;
   >   it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be
   populated
   >   soon.
   >
   >   We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send
   flowers
   >   to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership;
   >   that effort did not pass.
   >
   >   I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I
   >   signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign
   it.
   >    It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor
   make
   >   personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to
   >   rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit
   integrity
   >   out of the document, I have not represented it for additional
   >   signatures.
   >
   >   I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70%
   complete
   >   and the result debuted on May 7th.  It exceeded my expectations and
   >   I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to
   >   visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger
   membership.
   >   I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates
   >   well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I
   am
   >   proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership,
   >   signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in
   several
   >   months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are
   >   normally processed in several months. The best part is it is
   automated;
   >   when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new
   member
   >   number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email
   in a
   >   few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the
   >   website.  Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account
   >   within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the
   >   same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc.  At
   the
   >   same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles
   and
   >   the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications
   >   archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF
   >   manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell.  It's now
   FREE
   >   to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library.
   You
   >   will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a
   >   better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus
   >   protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to
   share
   >   information, ask for or give advice.
   >
   >   On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to
   >   showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to
   >   submit, please rename the file name to your name
   ("JohnSmithPantera")
   >   and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb;
   email
   >   it to "[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change
   >   the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting
   views
   >   and colors.
   >
   >   I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year
   >   (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional
   parts of
   >   the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity
   as
   >   those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of
   these
   >   will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016
   POCA
   >   East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by
   >   Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA
   >   National should be providing instruction and a set of proven
   activity
   >   guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to
   >   facilitate these events.  I believe the chapters should run
   >   the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party
   >   others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show
   >   community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show
   being
   >   sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the
   >   show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show,
   >   everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only
   >   participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items
   and
   >   conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should
   be
   >   a responsibility of the host chapter.
   >
   >   Can I have an Amen on that?
   >
   >
   >   Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the
   >   President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to
   get
   >   preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing,
   but
   >   please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was
   home
   >   safe again.
   >
   >   I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas,
   which
   >   was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in
   it at
   >   all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you
   didn't,
   >   those are the same people to voice your opinion too.
   >
   >   The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun
   Rally
   >   Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who
   plan
   >   and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale
   of
   >   the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who
   >   attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance
   >   have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results.
   >
   >   We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update
   the
   >   old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws
   >   used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to
   >   determine what is common among car clubs.
   >
   >   I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter
   should
   >   be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it
   was
   >   supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has
   not
   >   happened.
   >
   >   It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self
   >   sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like
   every
   >   other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also
   >   not happened.
   >
   >   I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and
   >   Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year
   (more
   >   than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted)
   to
   >   produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected
   of me
   >   as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary  duty to ensure that YOUR
   money
   >   is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a
   partner
   >   in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in
   professional
   >   media for 36 years.
   >
   >   What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both
   >   publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly
   >   Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink
   and
   >   all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for
   4
   >   issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover,
   >   sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are
   Black
   >   and White.  The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know
   it
   >   often arrives looking worse for wear.  Profiles is usually mailed
   in a
   >   large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not
   from
   >   moisture.
   >
   >
   >   So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for
   competitive
   >   bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club,
   >   organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of
   competition,
   >   to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest
   and
   >   grateful for their  continued patronage.  All well run companies,
   >   churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not
   entitled
   >   to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and
   >   competitive prices, service and support.
   >
   >
   >   What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to
   >   deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front
   to
   >   back.  A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre
   >   drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles
   >   magazine  in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered
   to
   >   your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat
   shrinked
   >   bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year
   over
   >   what we are now paying for Black and White.
   >
   >
   >   $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and
   is
   >   almost 20% of our total budget.  Yet I am meeting a great deal
   >   of resistance.
   >
   >
   >   As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and
   save
   >   all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.  For
   >   this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance.
   >
   >
   >   During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had
   in
   >   attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other
   assorted
   >   guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our
   dues
   >   by $10 per member  to facilitate keeping a printed paper
   Newsletter. At
   >   first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the
   math,
   >   we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly
   deserve a
   >   voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these
   >   publications.
   >
   >   I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this
   weekend,
   >   details below.
   >
   >
   >   I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will
   allow
   >   any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a
   >   recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by
   the
   >   club) by helping us grow.  That program is now underway and has
   it's
   >   own button on the lower menu on the website.
   >
   >   If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for
   the
   >   following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch.
   >
   >   If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National
   and
   >   Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are
   presented
   >   with a GOLD POCA patch.
   >
   >   For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you
   are
   >   presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never
   pay
   >   National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus
   you
   >   are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch.
   >
   >   To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have
   >   redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies
   of
   >   the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to
   >   keep stowed away in their car.  The brochure directs new member
   >   prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that
   process,
   >   they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to
   ensure
   >   they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards.
   >
   >   I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming
   new
   >   chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners
   interested
   >   in the UK and France.  On the new website, fully 33% of the newly
   >   joined members in the last week are International members.
   >
   >   I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars,
   that
   >   too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale
   Mangusta
   >   Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.  The
   >   Qvale Club may even roll into POCA.
   >
   >   Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than
   >   Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of
   all
   >   DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to
   change
   >   the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth,
   Liz
   >   or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest.
   >
   >   I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help
   build
   >   up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also
   did
   >   not happen.  I still believe the strength of any National club is
   >   derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels
   understand
   >   the concept; it works.  To my way of thinking, a National club is
   only
   >   as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the
   >   chapters.  Helping build membership and spreading their influence,
   >   to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody
   >   knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the
   >   limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real
   strength
   >   comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak
   >   roots.
   >
   >   Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you
   can,
   >   but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it
   once
   >   per year.  I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after
   every
   >   member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay
   >   local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew.
   >
   >   We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who
   want
   >   to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily.
   >
   >   We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are
   >   entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance
   >   from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right
   agent
   >   to call.  Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to
   POCA
   >   members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that
   you
   >   wish to turn on to our members, please contact me.
   >
   >   In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for
   >   volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it
   will be
   >   the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the
   Star,
   >   not the member who owns it.
   >
   >   We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen.
   >
   >   We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November
   >   where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on
   Saturday
   >   and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.  I
   >   have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.
    I
   >   am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.
   Qvale,
   >   Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of
   the
   >   Pantera.  It is a very prestigious event with tons of national
   >   automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a
   result.
   >
   >   I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort,
   >   something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with
   my
   >   own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also
   did
   >   not pass.
   >
   >   Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we
   >   devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in
   program
   >   to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling
   and
   >   develops an emergency issue.  You can provide help in any number of
   >   ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going
   out
   >   to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.
    All
   >   you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA
   hero.
   >
   >   Here are some things that you can expect in the near future.
   >
   >   Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua,
   >   Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a
   >   member.
   >
   >   Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that
   will
   >   also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for
   >   chapter events, car shows, etc.
   >
   >   I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to
   present
   >   to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000
   have
   >   higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we
   must
   >   deliver upon those expectations.
   >
   >   NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a
   new
   >   POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store.  I carried 60 lbs of
   >   samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to
   review
   >   with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival
   >   those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will
   >   challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get
   >   settled.  Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant
   payments
   >   and always great customer service.
   >
   >   That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months,
   >   updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA
   >   Membership experience.
   >
   >   The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of
   applause
   >   for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way
   >   through to make all of this happen for you.  Others outside the BOD
   who
   >   have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich,
   Rob
   >   Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile.
   >
   >   On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been
   kind
   >   and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the
   members
   >   first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the
   Cleveland
   >   Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls.
   >
   >   There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really
   big
   >   news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to
   become
   >   in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more.  We need to be
   >   nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and
   >   always represent as a positive, fun experience.
   >
   >   We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the
   age
   >   of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer
   be
   >   active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of
   >   a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members
   who
   >   have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people.
   >
   >   The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old
   guys
   >   with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty
   and
   >   fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply
   >   investors.
   >
   >   We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see
   what
   >   members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is
   offer
   >   a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals
   and
   >   new members alike.
   >
   >   It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer.
   Outwardly
   >   over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the
   >   programs listed above.  I believe in my heart Bob wants what is
   best
   >   for the club.
   >
   >   We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally
   >   declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next
   >   April.   Here's the problem: the BOD never discussed it.  We
   appointed
   >   Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention
   was
   >   ever made for 2017 or beyond.  So the Fun Rally may very well still
   >   take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it
   will
   >   be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to
   you
   >   is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward.
   You
   >   read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating
   Chapter
   >   driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route
   to
   >   success.
   >
   >   Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff.  I have
   been
   >   called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small
   and
   >   select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far;
   they
   >   have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD
   rules,
   >   violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way,
   shape,
   >   and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890
   >   people consume 75% of my time and attention.
   >
   >   Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called
   the
   >   meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23
   item
   >   agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in
   Show
   >   Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture
   that
   >   we must all work to change.
   >
   >   POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we
   >   preach.  We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a
   bunch
   >   of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie (
   more
   >   of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date
   a
   >   few.  Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead
   and
   >   be nice.
   >
   >
   >   Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made
   the
   >   move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take
   the
   >   existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to
   an
   >   Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com
   website
   >   to manage our records.  It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez,
   Joe
   >   Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old
   >   addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer
   >   many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance
   too,
   >   we could not have done it without them.
   >
   >
   >   We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2%
   error
   >   rate.  I know that many of you are still getting late membership
   due
   >   notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working
   to
   >   correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments
   >   reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much
   faster.
   >   If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have
   paid
   >   your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt,
   credit
   >   card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have
   done
   >   for 30 members in the last 10 days.  I'm sorry it is happening to
   you,
   >   if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these
   >   issues instantly and you can double check your address, email
   >   and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA
   publications
   >   on time.
   >
   >
   >   My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was
   to
   >   move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and
   most
   >   importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group
   of
   >   the BOD, we have kept many of those promises.
   >
   >
   >   Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on
   >   the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers,
   it
   >   should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no
   math
   >   questions, I promise.
   >
   >
   >   Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have
   >   representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send
   the
   >   message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart.  I
   will
   >   do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a
   the
   >   same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera.
   >
   >
   >   Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look
   for
   >   the survey coming very soon after this email.
   >
   >   Michael Shortt
   >
   >    President
   >
   >   POCA
   >
   >
   >
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   Message: 10
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:33:36 -0400
   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
   Message-ID: <D365D421.25F30%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
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   Hi Guys,
   I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can?t.
   Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
   designed
   to support one viewpoint over another.
   For example:
   1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new
   President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the club
   forward.
   O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
   difference.
   O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
   The responses can be interpreted thusly:
   A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
   B.  I?m stupid, and I like it that way.
   Seriously?
   How about?
   C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
   alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
   D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what
   they
   want?  It?s not like we have billions of members and can?t sort through
   their responses.
   Will.
   From:  <survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of "pr at poca.com
   via
   surveymonkey.com" <member at surveymonkey.com>
   Reply-To:  <pr at poca.com>
   Date:  Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM
   To:  Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Subject:  We want your opinion


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      Hi Guys,
      I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
      Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
      designed to support one viewpoint over another.
      For example:
      1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
   new
      President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the
   club
      forward.
      O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
      difference.
      O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
      The responses can be interpreted thusly:
      A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
      B.  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
      Seriously?
      How about?
      C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
      alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
      D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
   what
      they want?  It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort
      through their responses.
      Will.
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      To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
      Subject: We want your opinion
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   Message: 11
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:48:53 -0700
   From: "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com>
   To: "'Will Kooiman'" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
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   I took the survey, left about half the questions blank, and, funniest
   thing,
   pointed out in the comments section exactly what Will quoted about
   beating
   ones wife.  Oh, also commented that perhaps it would help to proof read
   the
   survey before sending it out.
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Will Kooiman
   Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:34 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
   Hi Guys,
   I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can?t.
   Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
   designed
   to support one viewpoint over another.
   For example:
   1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new
   President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the club
   forward.
   O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
   difference.
   O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
   The responses can be interpreted thusly:
   A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
   B.  I?m stupid, and I like it that way.
   Seriously?
   How about?
   C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
   alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
   D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what
   they
   want?  It?s not like we have billions of members and can?t sort through
   their responses.
   Will.
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   Message: 12
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:56:07 -0700
   From: "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com>
   To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>,
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message
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   Ahhh - once again Charles cuts to the essence of the matter -  'cept he
   forgot a few of the other truly charismatic leaders with qualifications
   at least as stellar as Master Shortt's - Robert Mugabe, and Jacob Zuma
   come to mind.
   I quit reading after the first couple of paragraphs.  Gads!
   OOPS!  I attributed the quote about beating wives to Will - sorry
   Charles!
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Charles Engles
   Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:28 AM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message
   Dear Forum,


                    After reading Mr. Shortt?s humble statement, I
   understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man.
   He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting,
   business, entertainment, politics and leadership.

                     His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that  is
   gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do, is
   reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini and
   Maduro.   This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace
   and compromise.

                      Our Messiah has come.


                                    Reverentially yours,  Chuck Engles


   PS:  The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me
   of that clever courtroom interrogation: ?When did you stop beating your
   wife??




   From: Pantera Owner's Club of America(michaelsavga at gmail.com)
   [mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com]
   Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM
   To: cengles at cox.net
   Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message

   View in your browser
   <http://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=722&club_id=999896&em
   tid=48579683612&mtid=293966696752&ht=0>
     _____
   Greetings POCA Members,

   In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey which
   was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until
   Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There are
   questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a great
   deal to me).

   There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the
   following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the club
   in general at the banquet".
   You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being
   aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer understanding
   of my Dog's issues as a result.

   You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to do
   now. Please forgive me being a fews days late.

   2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS
   A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for
   hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.  I do enjoy
   the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like
   golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we often
   make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear
   graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some
   of us do these things every weekend, if not every day.
   I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised change
   in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D?Orazio, whom I met in
   person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves as
   our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a
   fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise).
   I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had
   never met most of you last year.  You all know Rob; he is a nice guy
   who also cares deeply about this club.
   Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one
   open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on my
   shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed.
   While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both
   thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long
   established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of
   action.
   I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last
   January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious
   beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my
   whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.  Most of
   it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not being
   supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8
   elected positions and the Past President.
   I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your behalf;
   this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in, and
   for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent to
   divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in recent
   weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's,
   corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard with
   such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the election
   results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a
   mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it for
   the future.  If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced
   change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members and
   worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive
   unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for the
   betterment of the club.
   That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not happening
   here.
   I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going on
   during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you
   most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own
   social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.  For fun,
   I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41
   Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38
   times.  I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications, will
   turn into win #39 next Tuesday.  Respectable discourse and debate are
   not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to
   me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the side
   that was not successful understood those who voted made a distinct
   choice and rejected their candidate or platform.  Never in my life have
   I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not mean Rob; he
   has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along famously in Las
   Vegas) just seem to keep
    on doing their own thing and pay no attention to the person elected or
   the mandate they represent, that is to lead and provide direction to
   the whole club.
   Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff.
   On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President;
   he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner and
   former Fortune 500 Executive.  You are lucky to have him standing by
   "just in case".  He provides leadership, guidance and a way of letting
   me know I'm doing the right thing.  We have never voted on opposite
   sides.
   When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary; Joe
   works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone
   dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a
   teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our
   peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue.
   Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer
   whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6
   months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.  Ed works weird
   hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in
   Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted
   differently.
   Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John
   Buckman.  A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and
   guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all the
   bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up to
   speed on many items.  Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to
   my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect
   John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most of
   what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a
   person who proves, "you can't win them all".
   It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named that
   we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as
   your POCA President.
   We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply
   are no secrets about money within POCA.  We have a $100,000 reserve in
   the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not
   produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues. With
   no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy.
   I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA
   Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus
   far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are
   always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh
   ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better serve
   POCA members.  I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling,
   no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.  It
   is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President
   of their respective chapters.
   I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the club;
   it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated
   soon.
   We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers
   to any deceased member?s family if they had 10+years of membership;
   that effort did not pass.
   I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I
   signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign it.
    It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make
   personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to
   rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity
   out of the document, I have not represented it for additional
   signatures.
   I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete
   and the result debuted on May 7th.  It exceeded my expectations and I'm
   very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to visit
   as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership.  I know
   it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates well and
   looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am proud of
   my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership, signing up
   more new members in a week than we normally get in several months. It
   has processed more renewals in the last week than are normally
   processed in several months. The best part is it is automated; when the
   new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new member number,
   their online account is set up, and they receive an email in a few
   minutes with their login and temporary password to use the website.
   Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account within hours,
   and the best part, the
    POCA database is set up at the same time with their address, email,
   telephone numbers, etc.  At the same time they are added to the mailing
   list for emails, Profiles and the monthly Newsletter. The website has
   over 450 POCA publications archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso,
   Ford, Modena, and ZF manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to
   sell.  It's now FREE to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the
   technical library. You will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for
   members only; it's a better and safer (we have extensive malware,
   phishing and virus protection programs in place, unlike the old email
   forum) way to share information, ask for or give advice.
   On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to showcase
   member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to submit, please
   rename the file name to your name (?JohnSmithPantera") and submit as a
   jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb; email it to "
   <mailto:pocaphotodrop at gmail.com> pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going
   to change the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of
   contrasting views and colors.
   I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year
   (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts of
   the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity as
   those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of these
   will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016 POCA
   East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by
   Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA National
   should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity guidelines
   to be followed, insurance and registration support to facilitate these
   events.  I believe the chapters should run the rallies and profit,
   based upon their ability to throw a party others will pay to attend.
   The is a proven concept in the car show community, Club A will make a
   super effort to attend a car show being sponsored by Club B because
   Club A knows if they do not support the show, then Club B will not make
   any effort to support their
    show, everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only
   participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items and
   conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should be
   a responsibility of the host chapter.
   Can I have an Amen on that?

   Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the
   President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get
   preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing, but
   please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was home
   safe again.
   I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which
   was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it at
   all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you didn't,
   those are the same people to voice your opinion too.
   The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun Rally
   Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who plan
   and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale of
   the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who
   attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance
   have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results.
   We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update the
   old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws used
   by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to determine
   what is common among car clubs.
   I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter should
   be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was
   supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has not
   happened.
   It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self
   sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every
   other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also not
   happened.
   I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and
   Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year (more
   than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to
   produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of me
   as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary  duty to ensure that YOUR money
   is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a partner
   in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional
   media for 36 years.
   What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both
   publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly
   Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and
   all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4
   issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover,
   sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are Black
   and White.  The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it
   often arrives looking worse for wear.  Profiles is usually mailed in a
   large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not from
   moisture.

   So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for competitive
   bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club,
   organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition,
   to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and
   grateful for their  continued patronage.  All well run companies,
   churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not entitled
   to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and
   competitive prices, service and support.

   What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to
   deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to
   back.  A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre
   drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles
   magazine  in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to
   your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked
   bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over
   what we are now paying for Black and White.

   $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is
   almost 20% of our total budget.  Yet I am meeting a great deal of
   resistance.

   As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save
   all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.  For
   this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance.

   During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had in
   attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other assorted
   guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our dues
   by $10 per member  to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter. At
   first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math,
   we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve a
   voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these
   publications.
   I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend,
   details below.

   I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow
   any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a
   recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the
   club) by helping us grow.  That program is now underway and has it's
   own button on the lower menu on the website.
   If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the
   following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch.
   If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and
   Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented
   with a GOLD POCA patch.
   For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are
   presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay
   National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you
   are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch.
   To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have
   redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of
   the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to keep
   stowed away in their car.  The brochure directs new member prospects to
   go online at  <http://poca.com/> poca.com to sign up; during that
   process, they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member
   to ensure they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards.
   I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new
   chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners interested
   in the UK and France.  On the new website, fully 33% of the newly
   joined members in the last week are International members.
   I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars, that
   too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale Mangusta
   Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.  The
   Qvale Club may even roll into POCA.
   Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than
   Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of all
   DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to change
   the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth, Liz
   or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest.
   I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help build
   up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did
   not happen.  I still believe the strength of any National club is
   derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels understand
   the concept; it works.  To my way of thinking, a National club is only
   as strong as it?s weakest chapter, we must do more to support the
   chapters.  Helping build membership and spreading their influence, to
   grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody knows
   the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the limbs,
   branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real strength comes
   from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak roots.
   Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you can,
   but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once
   per year.  I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every
   member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay
   local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew.
   We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want
   to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily.
   We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are
   entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance from
   American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right agent to
   call.  Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA
   members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that you
   wish to turn on to our members, please contact me.
   In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for
   volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will be
   the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star,
   not the member who owns it.
   We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen.
   We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November
   where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday
   and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.  I
   have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.  I
   am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.  Qvale,
   Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of the
   Pantera.  It is a very prestigious event with tons of national
   automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result.
   I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort,
   something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with my
   own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did
   not pass.
   Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we
   devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program
   to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and
   develops an emergency issue.  You can provide help in any number of
   ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going out
   to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.  All
   you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero.
   Here are some things that you can expect in the near future.
   Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua,
   Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a
   member.
   Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that will
   also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for
   chapter events, car shows, etc.
   I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to present
   to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 have
   higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must
   deliver upon those expectations.
   NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a new
   POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store.  I carried 60 lbs of
   samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to review
   with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival
   those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will
   challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get
   settled.  Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments
   and always great customer service.
   That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months,
   updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA
   Membership experience.
   The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause
   for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way
   through to make all of this happen for you.  Others outside the BOD who
   have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich, Rob
   Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile.
   On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been kind
   and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members
   first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland
   Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls.
   There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really big
   news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to become
   in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more.  We need to be
   nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and
   always represent as a positive, fun experience.
   We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the age
   of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be
   active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of a toy
   and more of an investment, already a great number of members who have
   "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people.
   The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old guys
   with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and
   fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply
   investors.
   We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see what
   members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is offer
   a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and
   new members alike.
   It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer.  Outwardly
   over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the
   programs listed above.  I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best
   for the club.
   We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally
   declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next
   April.   Here?s the problem: the BOD never discussed it.  We appointed
   Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was
   ever made for 2017 or beyond.  So the Fun Rally may very well still
   take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it will
   be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to you
   is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward.  You
   read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating Chapter
   driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to
   success.
   Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff.  I have been
   called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small and
   select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far; they
   have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD rules,
   violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape,
   and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890
   people consume 75% of my time and attention.
   Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the
   meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23 item
   agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in Show
   Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture that
   we must all work to change.
   POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we
   preach.  We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a bunch
   of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie ( more
   of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date a
   few.  Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead and
   be nice.

   Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the
   move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take the
   existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to an
   Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com website
   to manage our records.  It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez, Joe
   Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old
   addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer
   many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance too,
   we could not have done it without them.

   We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2% error
   rate.  I know that many of you are still getting late membership due
   notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working to
   correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments
   reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much faster.
   If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have paid
   your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt, credit
   card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have done
   for 30 members in the last 10 days.  I'm sorry it is happening to you,
   if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these
   issues instantly and you can double check your address, email and
   telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA publications on
   time.

   My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was to
   move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and most
   importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of
   the BOD, we have kept many of those promises.

   Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on the
   direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers, it
   should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no math
   questions, I promise.

   Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have
   representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send the
   message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart.  I will
   do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a the
   same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera.

   Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look for
   the survey coming very soon after this email.
   Michael Shortt
    President
   POCA


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   Message: 13
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:57:07 -0600
   From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
   Message-ID:
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   Yep, the survey Will mentions is hilariously biased!  I'm still
   giggling
   about the absurdness of some of the possible responses.
   Corey
   On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >    Hi Guys,
   >
   >    I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
   >
   >    Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some
   are
   >    designed to support one viewpoint over another.
   >
   >    For example:
   >
   >    1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
   new
   >    President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the
   club
   >    forward.
   >
   >    O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see
   the
   >    difference.
   >
   >    O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
   >
   >    The responses can be interpreted thusly:
   >
   >    A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
   >
   >    B.  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
   >
   >    Seriously?
   >
   >    How about?
   >
   >    C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President
   is
   >    alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
   >
   >    D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
   what
   >    they want?  It's not like we have billions of members and can't
   sort
   >    through their responses.
   >
   >    Will.
   >
   >    From: <[1]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of
   >    "[2]pr at poca.com via surveymonkey.com" <[3]member at surveymonkey.com>
   >    Reply-To: <[4]pr at poca.com>
   >    Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM
   >    To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   >    Subject: We want your opinion
   >
   >
   >                               POCA Direction Survey
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >     We're conducting a survey and your input would be appreciated.
   Click
   >    the button below to start the survey. Thank you for your
   participation!
   >
   >
   >
   >                                [6]Begin Survey
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >     Please do not forward this email as its survey link is unique to
   you.
   >               [7]Opt out of receiving surveys from this sender
   >
   >
   >                         Powered by SurveyMonkey Logo
   >
   > References
   >
   >    1. mailto:survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com
   >    2. mailto:pr at poca.com
   >    3. mailto:member at surveymonkey.com
   >    4. mailto:pr at poca.com
   >    5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   >    6.
   >
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   >
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      Yep, the survey Will mentions is hilariously biased!A  I'm still
      giggling about the absurdness of some of the possible responses.
      Corey
      On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Will Kooiman
      <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
        A  A Hi Guys,
        A  A I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
        A  A Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.A  But
        some are
        A  A designed to support one viewpoint over another.
        A  A For example:
        A  A 1.A  I fully support the direction the club is headed in
   under
        the new
        A  A President and the progressiveA  BOD members who support
   moving
        the club
        A  A forward.
        A  A OA  Absolutely, the change was long over due.A  I can already
        see the
        A  A difference.
        A  A OA  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it
        alone.
        A  A The responses can be interpreted thusly:
        A  A A.A  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
        A  A B.A  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
        A  A Seriously?
        A  A How about?
        A  A C.A  I support the direction the club is headed, but the
        President is
        A  A alienating too many members and needs to tone down his
   message.
        A  A D.A  Why not have a free form text field and let the members
        write what
        A  A they want?A  It's not like we have billions of members and
        can't sort
        A  A through their responses.
        A  A Will.
        A  A From: <[1][2]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf
   of
        A  A "[2][3]pr at poca.com via [4]surveymonkey.com"
        <[3][5]member at surveymonkey.com>
        A  A Reply-To: <[4][6]pr at poca.com>
        A  A Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM
        A  A To: Will Kooiman <[5][7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
        A  A Subject: We want your opinion
        A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  POCA Direction Survey
        A  A  We're conducting a survey and your input would be
   appreciated.
        Click
        A  A the button below to start the survey. Thank you for your
        participation!
        A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A [6]Begin Survey
        A  A  Please do not forward this email as its survey link is
   unique
        to you.
        A  A  A  A  A  A  A  [7]Opt out of receiving surveys from this
        sender
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        References
        A  A 1. mailto:[8]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com
        A  A 2. mailto:[9]pr at poca.com
        A  A 3. mailto:[10]member at surveymonkey.com
        A  A 4. mailto:[11]pr at poca.com
        A  A 5. mailto:[12]will.kooiman at gmail.com
        A  A 6.

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      3. mailto:pr at poca.com
      4. http://surveymonkey.com/
      5. mailto:member at surveymonkey.com
      6. mailto:pr at poca.com
      7. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
      8. mailto:survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com
      9. mailto:pr at poca.com
     10. mailto:member at surveymonkey.com
     11. mailto:pr at poca.com
     12. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
     13.
   https://surveymonkey.com/tr/v1/te/akU_2BQc2vAhAsa_2B264x1g6_2FpF_2Fhy3E
   hxbpxJDHYpYZT3PErDK_2Bf6OjNYOPsqZdKwgInteeMkVSUAbvSGE_2F9k4wcaurKVB2hLP
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   Jyv_2FxhrQOrwDs1AgxAoDh39Gk2O_2BWWcSd7_2B6dqGpstRMR8CJ_2BWQ_3D_3D
     14.
   https://www.surveymonkey.com/optout.aspx?sm=jfPHmMKjbHPu96sriQi6hg_3D_3
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     15. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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   Message: 14
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:05:35 -0700
   From: scottcouchman at yahoo.com
   To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
           <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
   Message-ID: <2D7B3C98-8A1D-42E2-9C83-F6270CAA61A0 at yahoo.com>
   Content-Type: text/plain;        charset=us-ascii
   Will, I agree completely with your evaluation of the survey, but I
   disagree with your corrective action. I believe this survey and the
   State of POCA email is the true MS. The members of POCA need to see him
   when he lets his guard down. This is the guy they elected President. If
   they like what he wrote in the survey and State, they should encourage
   and support him. Don't tone it down, crank it up!! Scott
   > On May 21, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >   Hi Guys,
   >
   >   I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
   >
   >   Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
   >   designed to support one viewpoint over another.
   >
   >   For example:
   >
   >   1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
   new
   >   President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the
   club
   >   forward.
   >
   >   O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
   >   difference.
   >
   >   O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
   >
   >   The responses can be interpreted thusly:
   >
   >   A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
   >
   >   B.  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
   >
   >   Seriously?
   >
   >   How about?
   >
   >   C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President
   is
   >   alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
   >
   >   D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
   what
   >   they want?  It's not like we have billions of members and can't
   sort
   >   through their responses.
   >
   >   Will.
   >
   >   From: <[1]survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com> on behalf of
   >   "[2]pr at poca.com via surveymonkey.com" <[3]member at surveymonkey.com>
   >   Reply-To: <[4]pr at poca.com>
   >   Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 at 10:34 PM
   >   To: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   >   Subject: We want your opinion
   >
   >
   >                              POCA Direction Survey
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >    We're conducting a survey and your input would be appreciated.
   Click
   >   the button below to start the survey. Thank you for your
   participation!
   >
   >
   >
   >                               [6]Begin Survey
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >    Please do not forward this email as its survey link is unique to
   you.
   >              [7]Opt out of receiving surveys from this sender
   >
   >
   >                        Powered by SurveyMonkey Logo
   >
   > References
   >
   >   1. mailto:survey-noreply at smo.surveymonkey.com
   >   2. mailto:pr at poca.com
   >   3. mailto:member at surveymonkey.com
   >   4. mailto:pr at poca.com
   >   5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   >   6.
   https://surveymonkey.com/tr/v1/te/akU_2BQc2vAhAsa_2B264x1g6_2FpF_2Fhy3E
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   >   7.
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   Message: 15
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:14:18 -0700
   From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd:  This list versus new POCA site
   Message-ID: <57406D3A.5030607 at asajay.com>
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      Dennis,
      I think you have a great view on how it's really supposed to work.
   If
      a person enjoys the on-line format, it's -there- for them to use.
   If
      they like this format, it's there for them to use.  If they like
   both,
      it's there for them to use.
      I think about how I got to the PI forum and see postings from Jack
      DeRyke, who also posts on this email list.  I'm a members of many
      on-line forums and I go there when I need to, but I'm more dedicated
   to
      this list and as Chuck Engles pointed out in another email, this is
      like walking into a pub and sitting down among friends with a pint
   of
      beer and just shooting the breeze.
      An on-line forum can be that way too, especially if you get email
      delivery of all the postings; though you still have to go on-line to
      reply.
      The new POCA forum has pretty much the same features as the old
   on-line
      forum that was on the old web-site, but it hardly got used.  I tried
   to
      stimulate some use early on, but nothing much happened.  The new web
      site is more exciting and has the added benefit of tracking actual
      memberships as well.  That part doesn't work as well for folks who
   are
      a little Internet shy or who don't have email, but it's what I think
      is  a step in the right direction; I'm just not sure I agree with
   how
      it's all being kind of forced on people.
      But I agree that both formats are viable and useful.
      Asa  Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
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      On 5/21/2016 2:39 AM, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso wrote:
      Begin forwarded message:
      From: Dennis Valdez [3]<[1]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
      Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT
      To: Larry Finch [4]<[2]fresnofinches at aol.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site
      Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong
   with
      the tool.  I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great
   like
      the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity.
      Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now
   the
      POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find
      information.  This email stream is like sitting at a big table with
   a
      lot of your friends having several conversations at once about
      different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea
   how
      to search the years of history to find stuff.
      Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is
   to
      keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new
   and
      old friends with a common interest in great cars.  So wherever I
   find
      those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they
   prefer.
        On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
        [5]<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
        All,
        I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don't hate. I
   like
        new and shiny things)
        It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy
   to
        use. Smart phone use is quite trying.
        What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus
        the volume of this resurrected email list.
        I think I'm being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the
        POCA forum by at least 10 to 1.
        Not sure what that means, but it must mean something..........
        Just saying.  ;-)
        Larry -
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   Message: 16
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:20:12 -0700
   From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message
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      Hi email was fairly well written, I agreed with the general
   sentiment
      about 60-70%, but it was in the delivery of other certain detail and
   in
      some cases flat out lies, that really chapped my behind.  This to me
   is
      the problem, he's got some good ideas, but it's either -all- his way
   or
      people are malcontents, resistance fighters, don't care about
      "progressing" the club or are being stubborn at accepting the "will"
   of
      the 77% who elected him.  He doesn't seem to really understand how a
      real republic works, at least in my understanding.
      Chuck,
      What I'd -really- like to know are the following facts:
      - How many members were in POCA at the time of the election
      - How many members actually voted
      - Of those, how many voted for MS
      It's a manipulative statistic.  He says he got 77% of the vote.
   Well,
      if that was only of who voted, and only 20% of the membership
   voted...
      I'm sorry, I don't call that a mandate.
      I have several other "issues" with how he said some things in his
      "address" but my goodness did you go through the survey he sent out?
      Asa  Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
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      On 5/21/2016 6:27 AM, Charles Engles wrote:
      Dear Forum,
                       After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I
      understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man.
      He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting,
      business, entertainment, politics and leadership.
                        His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that
    is
      gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do,
   is
      reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini
   and
      Maduro.   This is the mandate for change that he modulates with
   grace
      and compromise.
                         Our Messiah has come.
                                       Reverentially yours,  Chuck Engles
      PS:  The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind
   me
      of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating
   your
      wife?"
      From: Pantera Owner's Club of America([3]michaelsavga at gmail.com)
      [[4]mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com]
      Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM
      To: [5]cengles at cox.net
      Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message
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   _______________________________________________________________________
      Greetings POCA Members,
      In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey
   which
      was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until
      Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There
      are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a
   great
      deal to me).
      There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the
      following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the
   club
      in general at the banquet".
      You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was
   being
      aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer
   understanding
      of my Dog's issues as a result.
      You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to
   do
      now. Please forgive me being a fews days late.
                            2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS
      A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for
      hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.  I do
   enjoy
      the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like
      golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we
   often
      make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear
      graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting.
   Some
      of us do these things every weekend, if not every day.
      I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised
   change
      in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met
   in
      person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves
   as
      our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a
      fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise).
      I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I
   had
      never met most of you last year.  You all know Rob; he is a nice guy
      who also cares deeply about this club.
      Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one
      open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on
   my
      shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed.
      While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both
      thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long
      established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of
      action.
      I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last
      January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious
      beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my
      whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.  Most
   of
      it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not
   being
      supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8
      elected positions and the Past President.
      I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your
   behalf;
      this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in,
   and
      for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent
   to
      divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in
   recent
      weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's,
      corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard
   with
      such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the
   election
      results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a
      mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it
   for
      the future.  If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced
      change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members
   and
      worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive
      unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for
   the
      betterment of the club.
      That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not
   happening
      here.
      I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going
   on
      during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you
      most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own
      social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.  For
   fun,
      I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41
      Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38
      times.  I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications,
   will
      turn into win #39 next Tuesday.  Respectable discourse and debate
   are
      not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to
      me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the
   side
      that was not successful understood those who voted made
      a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform.  Never
   in
      my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do
   not
      mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along
      famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing
   and
      pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they
   represent,
      that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club.
      Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff.
      On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice
   President;
      he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner
   and
      former Fortune 500 Executive.  You are lucky to have him standing by
      "just in case".  He provides leadership, guidance and a way of
   letting
      me know I'm doing the right thing.  We have never voted on opposite
      sides.
      When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary;
   Joe
      works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone
      dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have
   a
      teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our
      peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue.
      Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a
   computer
      whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past
   6
      months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.  Ed works
   weird
      hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in
      Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted
      differently.
      Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John
      Buckman.  A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and
      guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all
   the
      bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up
   to
      speed on many items.  Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful
   to
      my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I
   respect
      John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most
   of
      what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a
      person who proves, "you can't win them all".
      It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named
   that
      we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as
      your POCA President.
      We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply
      are no secrets about money within POCA.  We have a $100,000 reserve
   in
      the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not
      produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues.
   With
      no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy.
      I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA
      Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record
   thus
      far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are
      always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share
   fresh
      ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better
   serve
      POCA members.  I enjoy these calls because there has been no
   yelling,
      no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.
    It
      is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the
   President
      of their respective chapters.
      I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the
   club;
      it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated
      soon.
      We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send
   flowers
      to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership;
      that effort did not pass.
      I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I
      signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign
   it.
       It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make
      personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to
      rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit
   integrity
      out of the document, I have not represented it for additional
      signatures.
      I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete
      and the result debuted on May 7th.  It exceeded my expectations and
      I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to
      visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger
   membership.
      I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates
      well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I
   am
      proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership,
      signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in
   several
      months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are
      normally processed in several months. The best part is it is
   automated;
      when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new
   member
      number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in
   a
      few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the
      website.  Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account
      within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the
      same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc.  At the
      same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles
   and
      the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications
      archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF
      manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell.  It's now
   FREE
      to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library.
   You
      will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a
      better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus
      protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to
   share
      information, ask for or give advice.
      On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to
      showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to
      submit, please rename the file name to your name
   ("JohnSmithPantera")
      and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb;
   email
      it to [6]"[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change
      the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting
   views
      and colors.
      I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year
      (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts
   of
      the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity
   as
      those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of
   these
      will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016
   POCA
      East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by
      Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA
      National should be providing instruction and a set of proven
   activity
      guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to
      facilitate these events.  I believe the chapters should run
      the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party
      others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show
      community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show
   being
      sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the
      show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show,
      everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only
      participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items
   and
      conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should
   be
      a responsibility of the host chapter.
      Can I have an Amen on that?
      Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the
      President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get
      preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing,
   but
      please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was
   home
      safe again.
      I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas,
   which
      was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it
   at
      all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you
   didn't,
      those are the same people to voice your opinion too.
      The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun
   Rally
      Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who
   plan
      and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale
   of
      the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who
      attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance
      have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results.
      We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update
   the
      old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws
      used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to
      determine what is common among car clubs.
      I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter
   should
      be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was
      supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has
   not
      happened.
      It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self
      sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like
   every
      other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also
      not happened.
      I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and
      Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year
   (more
      than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to
      produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of
   me
      as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary  duty to ensure that YOUR
   money
      is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a
   partner
      in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional
      media for 36 years.
      What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both
      publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly
      Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink
   and
      all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for
   4
      issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover,
      sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are
   Black
      and White.  The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it
      often arrives looking worse for wear.  Profiles is usually mailed in
   a
      large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not
   from
      moisture.
      So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for
   competitive
      bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club,
      organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of
   competition,
      to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and
      grateful for their  continued patronage.  All well run companies,
      churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not
   entitled
      to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and
      competitive prices, service and support.
      What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to
      deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front
   to
      back.  A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre
      drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles
      magazine  in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to
      your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked
      bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year
   over
      what we are now paying for Black and White.
      $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is
      almost 20% of our total budget.  Yet I am meeting a great deal
      of resistance.
      As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save
      all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.  For
      this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance.
      During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had
   in
      attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other
   assorted
      guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our
   dues
      by $10 per member  to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter.
   At
      first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the
   math,
      we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve
   a
      voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these
      publications.
      I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend,
      details below.
      I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow
      any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a
      recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the
      club) by helping us grow.  That program is now underway and has it's
      own button on the lower menu on the website.
      If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for
   the
      following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch.
      If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and
      Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented
      with a GOLD POCA patch.
      For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are
      presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay
      National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you
      are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch.
      To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have
      redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of
      the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to
      keep stowed away in their car.  The brochure directs new member
      prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that
   process,
      they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to
   ensure
      they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards.
      I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new
      chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners
   interested
      in the UK and France.  On the new website, fully 33% of the newly
      joined members in the last week are International members.
      I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars,
   that
      too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale
   Mangusta
      Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.  The
      Qvale Club may even roll into POCA.
      Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than
      Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of
   all
      DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to
   change
      the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth,
   Liz
      or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest.
      I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help
   build
      up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also
   did
      not happen.  I still believe the strength of any National club is
      derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels
   understand
      the concept; it works.  To my way of thinking, a National club is
   only
      as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the
      chapters.  Helping build membership and spreading their influence,
      to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody
      knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the
      limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real
   strength
      comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak
      roots.
      Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you
   can,
      but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it
   once
      per year.  I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after
   every
      member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay
      local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew.
      We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who
   want
      to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily.
      We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are
      entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance
      from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right
   agent
      to call.  Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to
   POCA
      members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that
   you
      wish to turn on to our members, please contact me.
      In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for
      volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will
   be
      the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star,
      not the member who owns it.
      We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen.
      We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November
      where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on
   Saturday
      and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.  I
      have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.
    I
      am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.  Qvale,
      Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of
   the
      Pantera.  It is a very prestigious event with tons of national
      automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a
   result.
      I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort,
      something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with
   my
      own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also
   did
      not pass.
      Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we
      devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in
   program
      to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling
   and
      develops an emergency issue.  You can provide help in any number of
      ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going
   out
      to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.
   All
      you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA
   hero.
      Here are some things that you can expect in the near future.
      Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua,
      Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a
      member.
      Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that
   will
      also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for
      chapter events, car shows, etc.
      I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to
   present
      to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000
   have
      higher expectations and if we are to capture the new owners, we must
      deliver upon those expectations.
      NEW POCA STORE, Josette and I are working very hard at building a
   new
      POCA and Detomaso merchandise online store.  I carried 60 lbs of
      samples to Las Vegas in a giant overweight separate suitcase to
   review
      with Josette. In the coming months, you will have a store to rival
      those marketing savvy gurus at PCNC, in fact Josette and I will
      challenge them to a little Mall on Mall throwdown as soon as we get
      settled.  Expect great stuff, fast delivery, online instant payments
      and always great customer service.
      That my friends is how we've been staying busy these past 5 months,
      updating, improving and constantly working to increase your POCA
      Membership experience.
      The four Board members named above deserve a GIANT round of applause
      for standing alongside me, shoulder to shoulder to plowing our way
      through to make all of this happen for you.  Others outside the BOD
   who
      have been especially helpful include Marshall Smith, Jeff Dietrich,
   Rob
      Dumoulins, and Laurie Basile.
      On the Cleveland Block calls, most all of the Presidents have been
   kind
      and decent people with the shared common goal of serving the members
      first. I value their input monthly and look forward to the Cleveland
      Bock calls 10x more than I do the BOD calls.
      There is a lot going on where the club can be in the news, really
   big
      news will be coming soon which will probably cause your cars to
   become
      in even bigger demand and prices to rise even more.  We need to be
      nice, play nice and remember to endeavour to present our brand and
      always represent as a positive, fun experience.
      We face many challenges; our club is by member count 50% over the
   age
      of 65, in 10-15 years, many of our current members will no longer be
      active in this avocation. For many their car has become less of
      a toy and more of an investment, already a great number of members
   who
      have "cashed out", but remain members because they love the people.
      The price of cars has risen to such a degree that thirty-year-old
   guys
      with a family can longer afford to buy; our buyers are now forty and
      fifty year old guys; some are sports car guys and some are simply
      investors.
      We must always remember to try to look in from the outside and see
   what
      members and non members see, we must never forget that job ONE is
   offer
      a membership experience that is appealing to everybody, renewals and
      new members alike.
      It is here where I will mention Bob Reid, your Treasurer.  Outwardly
      over the first four months, he has been supportive of many of the
      programs listed above.  I believe in my heart Bob wants what is best
      for the club.
      We were all blindsided by the announcement at the 2016 Fun Rally
      declaring the 2017 Fun Rally would return to the Plaza hotel next
      April.   Here's the problem: the BOD never discussed it.  We
   appointed
      Kent and Sandi Snyder as 2016 Fun Rally Coordinators; no mention was
      ever made for 2017 or beyond.  So the Fun Rally may very well still
      take place in LV Vegas next year, but it remains to be seen if it
   will
      be a POCA event. Responding to the survey that was already sent to
   you
      is one tool that we have to settle this issue and move forward.  You
      read what I thought above about all NEWS Rallies being rotating
   Chapter
      driven events, I stand by my assertion that is a far better route to
      success.
      Now, unfortunately, I have to share the not so nice stuff.  I have
   been
      called mean, nasty, and all sorts of unflattering names by a small
   and
      select group of people opposed to everything we have done so far;
   they
      have kicked, screamed, emailed, broadcast emailed, violating BOD
   rules,
      violated POCA rules and violated common decency in every way, shape,
      and form. There are 6 members who shall remain nameless, out of 890
      people consume 75% of my time and attention.
      Last January, we had our very first BOD teleconference; I called the
      meeting to order and immediately was verbally attacked for my 23
   item
      agenda, but have no worries my friends I have survived 36 years in
   Show
      Business, this isn't even close, but it is relevant to the culture
   that
      we must all work to change.
      POCA needs to be a nicer place and we all need to practice what we
      preach.  We cannot attract new members if we are perceived as a
   bunch
      of mean and nasty people, I was never a flower child or a hippie (
   more
      of a preppy), but a little hippie never hurt anybody and I did date
   a
      few.  Let's leave the VW Bus at home, take the Pantera out instead
   and
      be nice.
      Membership Records have been and remain a struggle, when we made the
      move to go to online member sign up and management, we had to take
   the
      existing paper and old Microsoft Access records and convert them to
   an
      Excel database driven engine which is what enables the POCA.com
   website
      to manage our records.  It took John and Kathy Buckman, Ed Mendez,
   Joe
      Stockett and over a month to correct the typos, wrong emails, old
      addresses, and bad telephone numbers. I want to reach out and offer
      many thanks to Gerry Romack and Rod Kunishige for their assistance
   too,
      we could not have done it without them.
      We are still struggling with it, but have it down to about a 2%
   error
      rate.  I know that many of you are still getting late membership due
      notices and you have paid your dues many months ago, we are working
   to
      correct the problem and as soon as the collector of your payments
      reports them, we can make it stop. In fact, we can do that much
   faster.
      If you are one of the 91 people being email harassed and you have
   paid
      your dues, please email me a copy of your check, paypal receipt,
   credit
      card statement and I will have it credited immediately as I have
   done
      for 30 members in the last 10 days.  I'm sorry it is happening to
   you,
      if you would please renew or join online, it would alleviate these
      issues instantly and you can double check your address, email
      and telephone info to insure that you will get your POCA
   publications
      on time.
      My promise when I accepted the nomination to run for President was
   to
      move the club forward, be progressive, update our technology and
   most
      importantly - grow the club; and with the support of a core group of
      the BOD, we have kept many of those promises.
      Later today you will all receive a survey asking for your advice on
      the direction for this club. It will be mostly yes and no answers,
   it
      should take no more than two minutes to complete, and there are no
   math
      questions, I promise.
      Please reply and I promise to abide by majority rule, we have
      representative leadership; I guess 77% was not high enough to send
   the
      message that you wanted change. Please answer with your heart.  I
   will
      do exactly what you want, I truly value all members, we all share a
   the
      same passion, our DeTomaso Pantera.
      Thank you for reading this very, very long message and please look
   for
      the survey coming very soon after this email.
      Michael Shortt
       President
      POCA

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   Message: 17
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:23:33 -0700
   From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: We want your opinion
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      Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered
      because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully
      don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone
   else
      so you can do what you want.
      I think the man is a closet narcissist.  Why can't we have a middle
   of
      the road solution?
      Example.
      He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter.  But what about
   those
      members who don't?  Can't there be a happy medium where those who
   want
      electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who
   want a
      paper copy can get a paper copy?
      According to him... no.  There can be no happy medium.  You will
      conform or you will leave.
      Asa  Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
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      On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
      Hi Guys,
      I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
      Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked.  But some are
      designed to support one viewpoint over another.
      For example:
      1.  I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the
   new
      President and the progressive  BOD members who support moving the
   club
      forward.
      O  Absolutely, the change was long over due.  I can already see the
      difference.
      O  Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
      The responses can be interpreted thusly:
      A.  Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
      B.  I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
      Seriously?
      How about?
      C.  I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is
      alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
      D.  Why not have a free form text field and let the members write
   what
      they want?  It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort
      through their responses.
      Will.
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      Subject: We want your opinion
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   Message: 18
   Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:42:19 +0000 (UTC)
   From: Forest Goodhart <forestg at att.net>
   To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>,
           "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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   Where was Michael's "humble statement" posted. I don't recall seeing
   it?Forest
         From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
    To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
    Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:20 AM
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 2016 State of POCA Message

   ? Hi email was fairly well written, I agreed with the general sentiment
   ? about 60-70%, but it was in the delivery of other certain detail and
   in
   ? some cases flat out lies, that really chapped my behind.? This to me
   is
   ? the problem, he's got some good ideas, but it's either -all- his way
   or
   ? people are malcontents, resistance fighters, don't care about
   ? "progressing" the club or are being stubborn at accepting the "will"
   of
   ? the 77% who elected him.? He doesn't seem to really understand how a
   ? real republic works, at least in my understanding.
   ? Chuck,
   ? What I'd -really- like to know are the following facts:
   ? - How many members were in POCA at the time of the election
   ? - How many members actually voted
   ? - Of those, how many voted for MS
   ? It's a manipulative statistic.? He says he got 77% of the vote.?
   Well,
   ? if that was only of who voted, and only 20% of the membership
   voted...
   ? I'm sorry, I don't call that a mandate.
   ? I have several other "issues" with how he said some things in his
   ? "address" but my goodness did you go through the survey he sent out?
   ? Asa? Jay
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
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   ? On 5/21/2016 6:27 AM, Charles Engles wrote:
   ? Dear Forum,
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? After reading Mr. Shortt's humble statement, I
   ? understand better that we are in the presence of a Renaissance Man.
   ? He is a polymath gifted in the arts and sciences of accounting,
   ? business, entertainment, politics and leadership.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? His laser power point of a 77% vote majority that?
   is
   ? gently referred to time and time again just a true leader would do,
   is
   ? reminiscent of other charismatic leaders such as Castro, Mussolini
   and
   ? Maduro.? This is the mandate for change that he modulates with grace
   ? and compromise.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Our Messiah has come.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Reverentially yours,? Chuck Engles
   ? PS:? The latest Pantera Survey questions from the Politburo remind me
   ? of that clever courtroom interrogation: "When did you stop beating
   your
   ? wife?"
   ? From: Pantera Owner's Club of America([3]michaelsavga at gmail.com)
   ? [[4]mailto:mailer at mail2.clubexpress.com]
   ? Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:50 PM
   ? To: [5]cengles at cox.net
   ? Subject: 2016 State of POCA Message
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? [1]View in your browser
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   ? Greetings POCA Members,
   ? In one of the free comment responses to the 2016 Fun Rally Survey
   which
   ? was sent out the day before yesterday (it will remain posted until
   ? Sunday night, please participate, even if you did not attend. There
   ? are questions about future POCA events and your opinion matters a
   great
   ? deal to me).
   ? There was a comment that really struck home with me. It stated the
   ? following, "I wish the POCA President had given a report about the
   club
   ? in general at the banquet".
   ? You know what, I wish I had too, it was my first time and I was being
   ? aimed and pointed most of the rally, I now have a closer
   understanding
   ? of my Dog's issues as a result.
   ? You ladies and gentlemen deserve no less, so it's what I'm going to
   do
   ? now. Please forgive me being a fews days late.
   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2016 STATE OF POCA ADDRESS
   ? A warm welcome to all of you, my fellow speeders with oil pumps for
   ? hearts and 20/50 dead dinosaurs running through your veins.? I do
   enjoy
   ? the company of car people; we are a special breed, we can be like
   ? golfers, tennis players, bingo nuts or even ballroom dancers, we
   often
   ? make the long drive, serve one up on fire, get 6 in a row and appear
   ? graceful simply hitting an double apex at speed without lifting. Some
   ? of us do these things every weekend, if not every day.
   ? I was elected presumably because I ran a campaign that promised
   change
   ? in all forms. My opponent for President was Rob D'Orazio, whom I met
   in
   ? person in Las Vegas along with his lovely wife, Josette, who serves
   as
   ? our POCA Store manager (and is very dedicated to her job, she did a
   ? fantastic job moving $4,600 in merchandise).
   ? I know for a fact you did not "like me" better than Rob because I had
   ? never met most of you last year.? You all know Rob; he is a nice guy
   ? who also cares deeply about this club.
   ? Therefore, I must deduce (rather than assume which always leaves one
   ? open as a punch line) that your support of my candidacy was based on
   my
   ? shared vision of what POCA could be and what I saw (IMHO) it needed.
   ? While 23% of you did not agree, 77% of you did agree. I was both
   ? thrilled and excited that you would trust me to lead your long
   ? established club into a brave new future with a progressive plan of
   ? action.
   ? I know that many of you heard this, in our first BOD Meeting last
   ? January, I had a list of 23 agenda items. It was an ambitious
   ? beginning; what was not shared was that this wasn't my list for my
   ? whole term in office; it was my list for the first six months.? Most
   of
   ? it has been accomplished; some items were not as a result of not
   being
   ? supported by a majority of the BOD. The BOD is comprised of your 8
   ? elected positions and the Past President.
   ? I must share with you that it has not been easy to work on your
   behalf;
   ? this is the part of this address where brutal honesty must kick in,
   and
   ? for that I must apologize. It is not now, nor was it ever my intent
   to
   ? divide the club with such a deep chasm as has been developing in
   recent
   ? weeks. In most polite clubs, governments, churches, HOA's,
   ? corporations, etc., when a new President or CEO is brought onboard
   with
   ? such a huge margin of victory, most reasonable people see the
   election
   ? results as a mandate by the electorate; in my particular case, a
   ? mandate for change to lead the club into the present and prepare it
   for
   ? the future.? If some of those 23% who opposed me had truly embraced
   ? change, they would have accepted the decision of 77% of the members
   and
   ? worked with us, shoulder to shoulder, together as a solid, cohesive
   ? unit to institute meaningful, thoughtful and considered change for
   the
   ? betterment of the club.
   ? That is what happens in an ideal world; it of course, is not
   happening
   ? here.
   ? I'm sorry to do it, but I feel I share with you what has been going
   on
   ? during these past five months. But before I do that, let me tell you
   ? most people think I'm a nice guy; I have lots of friends in my own
   ? social circles, in business, in racing, and in my community.? For
   fun,
   ? I run Political campaigns; in the last 20 years, I have managed 41
   ? Campaigns for elected public office and my candidates have won 38
   ? times.? I am currently working on #42, which, by all indications,
   will
   ? turn into win #39 next Tuesday.? Respectable discourse and debate are
   ? not new to me during elections, not are dirty tricks. What is new to
   ? me, in 100% of the time following these 41 previous elections, the
   side
   ? that was not successful understood those who voted made
   ? a distinct choice and rejected their candidate or platform.? Never in
   ? my life have I encountered a group where those who lost (and I do not
   ? mean Rob; he has been a perfect gentleman, and I think we got along
   ? famously in Las Vegas) just seem to keep on doing their own thing and
   ? pay no attention to the person elected or the mandate they represent,
   ? that is to lead and provide direction to the whole club.
   ? Before I move forward in thought, let me share some good stuff.
   ? On the BOD I am honored to serve with Mike Burnett as Vice President;
   ? he is a thoughtful and measured man, an experienced business owner
   and
   ? former Fortune 500 Executive.? You are lucky to have him standing by
   ? "just in case".? He provides leadership, guidance and a way of
   letting
   ? me know I'm doing the right thing.? We have never voted on opposite
   ? sides.
   ? When you elected me, you also elected Joe Stockett, your Secretary;
   Joe
   ? works in IT for a major bank. With Joe, you folks have someone
   ? dedicated to making perfect records for our meetings; you also have a
   ? teddy bear of a man who wants everybody to be happy. He is our
   ? peacemaker. We also have never voted differently on any issue.
   ? Next up is Ed Mendez, who serves as our PR Director; Ed is a computer
   ? whiz and has established our footprint on Facebook, during the past 6
   ? months generating over 200,000 Pantera related posts.? Ed works weird
   ? hours and we often chat at 3 am about club business online, me in
   ? Georgia and Ed off in New Zealand. We also have never voted
   ? differently.
   ? Last on the progressive side of the room is our Past President, John
   ? Buckman.? A super nice man who has provided amazing insight and
   ? guidance to me; his observations are spot on and he knows where all
   the
   ? bodies are buried; he knows the entire club and he has brought me up
   to
   ? speed on many items.? Both he and his wife Kathy have been helpful to
   ? my efforts. We have voted differently a couple of times and I respect
   ? John for following his heart; he is the 5th vote for things for most
   of
   ? what we get done; sometimes he's not, and that's OK; we all need a
   ? person who proves, "you can't win them all".
   ? It is because of these folks and occasionally those not yet named
   that
   ? we have accomplished so much in the first five months of my term as
   ? your POCA President.
   ? We have opened up the financial books to member review; there simply
   ? are no secrets about money within POCA.? We have a $100,000 reserve
   in
   ? the bank; it is there because for several years this club did not
   ? produce four Profiles every year, yet you all paid your full dues.
   With
   ? no expenses, building up a larger balance becomes very easy.
   ? I created the Cleveland Block, a monthly teleconference with POCA
   ? Chapter Presidents; we have had 4 such calls; I think the record thus
   ? far is 14/20 Chapter Presidents on a single call. These meetings are
   ? always respectful, polite and informative. It is where we share fresh
   ? ideas, which can be implemented or creatively adjusted to better
   serve
   ? POCA members.? I enjoy these calls because there has been no yelling,
   ? no name-calling, no fighting and we all work towards a common goal.?
   It
   ? is easy to see why each of these men were elected to be the President
   ? of their respective chapters.
   ? I wanted to make the POCA Hall of Fame a more visible part of the
   club;
   ? it now has a dedicated page on the website, and it will be populated
   ? soon.
   ? We attempted to set a standard policy whereby POCA would send flowers
   ? to any deceased member's family if they had 10+years of membership;
   ? that effort did not pass.
   ? I wrote a Code of Ethics for all POCA elected officers to sign, I
   ? signed it and so did all those listed above, others would not sign
   it.
   ? ? It basically states that you may not profit from the club, nor make
   ? personal gains as a result of your elected position. I was asked to
   ? rewrite it to take fewer pages (3), not knowing how to edit integrity
   ? out of the document, I have not represented it for additional
   ? signatures.
   ? I presented my vision for a new website; that vision is 70% complete
   ? and the result debuted on May 7th.? It exceeded my expectations and
   ? I'm very pleased; it is a website I can now proudly refer others to
   ? visit as I reach out to build the POCA brand and a larger membership.
   ? I know it to be a sleek, performance oriented website; it navigates
   ? well and looks as good as any Pantera at speed on the open road. I am
   ? proud of my baby. The website has been a huge asset to membership,
   ? signing up more new members in a week than we normally get in several
   ? months. It has processed more renewals in the last week than are
   ? normally processed in several months. The best part is it is
   automated;
   ? when the new member signs up, they are instantly assigned a new
   member
   ? number, their online account is set up, and they receive an email in
   a
   ? few minutes with their login and temporary password to use the
   ? website.? Their membership dues are deposited into our bank account
   ? within hours, and the best part, the POCA database is set up at the
   ? same time with their address, email, telephone numbers, etc.? At the
   ? same time they are added to the mailing list for emails, Profiles and
   ? the monthly Newsletter. The website has over 450 POCA publications
   ? archived on it as well as all the DeTomaso, Ford, Modena, and ZF
   ? manuals from the $79.95 "The Works" DVD we used to sell.? It's now
   FREE
   ? to all POCA members plus a lot more info in the technical library.
   You
   ? will also notice our 45+ Discussion Boards for members only; it's a
   ? better and safer (we have extensive malware, phishing and virus
   ? protection programs in place, unlike the old email forum) way to
   share
   ? information, ask for or give advice.
   ? On the home page, we have installed a rotating slide show to
   ? showcase member cars; if you have a photo that you would like to
   ? submit, please rename the file name to your name ("JohnSmithPantera")
   ? and submit as a jpeg no smaller than 400K and no larger than 5mb;
   email
   ? it to [6]"[2]pocaphotodrop at gmail.com". We are going to change
   ? the slideshow monthly with 10 new POCA Member cars of contrasting
   views
   ? and colors.
   ? I made a presentation centered around 4 POCA Rallies per year
   ? (N.E.W.S., North, East, West and South) to be held in regional parts
   of
   ? the country to enable all POCA members to have the same opportunity
   as
   ? those who have attended the Fun Rally for 35 years. The first of
   these
   ? will be in Savannah, Georgia, Sept 29-Oct 2; it is called the 2016
   POCA
   ? East Rally. It is my plan for these events to be hosted and run by
   ? Chapters on a rotating basis. In my humble opinion, POCA
   ? National should be providing instruction and a set of proven activity
   ? guidelines to be followed, insurance and registration support to
   ? facilitate these events.? I believe the chapters should run
   ? the rallies and profit, based upon their ability to throw a party
   ? others will pay to attend. The is a proven concept in the car show
   ? community, Club A will make a super effort to attend a car show being
   ? sponsored by Club B because Club A knows if they do not support the
   ? show, then Club B will not make any effort to support their show,
   ? everybody wins because nobody wants to lose. POCA should only
   ? participate as BOD guests, have the right to sell POCA store items
   and
   ? conduct our raffle for National fundraising; everything else should
   be
   ? a responsibility of the host chapter.
   ? Can I have an Amen on that?
   ? Speaking of which, Yes I did ask for and deliver a blessing at the
   ? President's Breakfast, as I often do in my life. I am not one to get
   ? preachy or insist on compliance, everybody can do their own thing,
   but
   ? please consider - I still had two airplanes to get on before I was
   home
   ? safe again.
   ? I had no involvement in the recent 2016 Fun Rally in Las Vegas, which
   ? was scheduled before I was elected; I share no credit or blame in it
   at
   ? all. If you had a good time, thank the right people and if you
   didn't,
   ? those are the same people to voice your opinion too.
   ? The BOD has never run the Fun Rally, there has always been a Fun
   Rally
   ? Committee which consisted of 2 or 3 BOD members and 2-5 others who
   plan
   ? and manage these events. The aforementioned survey will be the Tale
   of
   ? the Tape; we'll ascertain how the event was perceived by those who
   ? attended and responded ( and so far over 40% of those in attendance
   ? have replied), and I'm looking forward to the results.
   ? We have started to work on a new draft of revised Bylaws to update
   the
   ? old version and fill in a few cracks. We have copies of the Bylaws
   ? used by the Ferrari, Porsche, Mustang, Shelby, and Jaguar clubs to
   ? determine what is common among car clubs.
   ? I mentioned early on in my candidacy that I felt the Newsletter
   should
   ? be distributed via email; we voted to do that (it passed) and it was
   ? supposed to sunset when the new website went online; that also has
   not
   ? happened.
   ? It is my desire the Newsletter and Profiles magazine become self
   ? sustaining with advertising space sold within their pages, like every
   ? other club newsletter and magazine in the world; this has also
   ? not happened.
   ? I took it upon myself to contrast and compare our Newsletter and
   ? Magazine Printing Costs, since this club spends $45,000 per year
   (more
   ? than we retain in member dues after Chapter rebates are deducted) to
   ? produce these publications, it seemed like what would be expected of
   me
   ? as your CEO. I feel I have a fiduciary? duty to ensure that YOUR
   money
   ? is being spent prudently and wisely, I also helps that I was a
   partner
   ? in a printing company from 1986-1988 and have worked in professional
   ? media for 36 years.
   ? What I discovered was POCA has been severely overpaying for both
   ? publications. You currently are paying $25,000 for 12 monthly
   ? Newsletters which have a colored stock paper cover with Black ink and
   ? all Black and White content pages. You have been paying $20,000 for 4
   ? issues of Profiles, a quarterly magazine with a 4 color cover,
   ? sometimes a color 4 page insert and all the rest of the pages are
   Black
   ? and White.? The newsletter is mailed loosely, as many of you know it
   ? often arrives looking worse for wear.? Profiles is usually mailed in
   a
   ? large white POCA envelope which does protect it from dirt, but not
   from
   ? moisture.
   ? So I contacted half a dozen national printers and asked for
   competitive
   ? bids, and they poured in. All responsible businesses, club,
   ? organizations frequently release RFPs to stay abreast of competition,
   ? to review new services and lastly to keep current vendors honest and
   ? grateful for their? continued patronage.? All well run companies,
   ? churches, charities or clubs operate this way, vendors are not
   entitled
   ? to business, vendors must earn business and always offer fair and
   ? competitive prices, service and support.
   ? What came from all this work was the newly discovered ability to
   ? deliver POCA publications to it's members in FULL COLOR from front to
   ? back.? A monthly 32 page Newsletter (with a matte finish and pre
   ? drilled for a three rig binder) and to deliver a 52 page Profiles
   ? magazine? in FULL COLOR on glossy 100# stock, with both delivered to
   ? your homes in a plastic, sealed, water and dirt proof, heat shrinked
   ? bag with a laser address label and save the club $8,000 per year over
   ? what we are now paying for Black and White.
   ? $8,000 in Savings represents the net dues of 160 POCA members and is
   ? almost 20% of our total budget.? Yet I am meeting a great deal
   ? of resistance.
   ? As I stated above, I would rather have a digital Newsletter and save
   ? all of that money and produce an even better printed Profiles.? For
   ? this effort I am also meeting a great deal of resistance.
   ? During the Las Vegas Fun Rally at the President's Breakfast, we had
   in
   ? attendance 6-7 Chapter Presidents, 6 BOD members and 18 other
   assorted
   ? guests, 30 people in total who suggested that we simply raise our
   dues
   ? by $10 per member? to facilitate keeping a printed paper Newsletter.
   At
   ? first I though this was an excellent compromise until I did the math,
   ? we have 22 chapters and almost 870 other members who rightly deserve
   a
   ? voice in this matter since 100% plus of your dues support these
   ? publications.
   ? I am going to be asking you to voice your opinion over this weekend,
   ? details below.
   ? I devised the "3-5-1 Membership Recruiting Program" which will allow
   ? any current POCA member to reach out to new member prospects as a
   ? recruiter and be awarded their membership dues for FREE (paid by the
   ? club) by helping us grow.? That program is now underway and has it's
   ? own button on the lower menu on the website.
   ? If you sign up three new members, your National dues are paid for the
   ? following year and you are presented with a Silver POCA patch.
   ? If you recruit 5 New POCA Members within one year, your National and
   ? Local Chapter dues are paid the following year and you are presented
   ? with a GOLD POCA patch.
   ? For Superstars, if you achieve GOLD status 5 years in a row, you are
   ? presented with a Lifetime National POCA membership and you never pay
   ? National dues again (except for your Local Chapter's dues), plus you
   ? are presented with a Light Blue POCA patch.
   ? To help members achieve these goals and support this effort we have
   ? redesigned the POCA Membership brochure and printed enough copies of
   ? the full color trifold piece to ensure every member will have 5 to
   ? keep stowed away in their car.? The brochure directs new member
   ? prospects to go online at [3]poca.com to sign up; during that
   process,
   ? they will have an opportunity to list their sponsoring member to
   ensure
   ? they are credited properly for 3-5-1 program rewards.
   ? I mentioned I wanted to take POCA worldwide, we now have forming new
   ? chapters in New Zealand and Canada, and we also have owners
   interested
   ? in the UK and France.? On the new website, fully 33% of the newly
   ? joined members in the last week are International members.
   ? I stated to grow the club we must also include all DeTomaso cars,
   that
   ? too is happening (with a twist) because we are forming a Qvale
   Mangusta
   ? Chapter now and want to form chapters for each DeTomaso Model.? The
   ? Qvale Club may even roll into POCA.
   ? Speaking of which, you will notice that I use POCA 10x more than
   ? Pantera; it is on purpose to help me to remember to be inclusive of
   all
   ? DeTomaso models and International efforts; there is no desire to
   change
   ? the name of the club, but it's OK to call Elizabeth - Betty, Beth,
   Liz
   ? or Lizzy, - we all still know who's the prettiest.
   ? I asked that all members must have a chapter designation to help
   build
   ? up the core of the club and make our chapters stronger; that also did
   ? not happen.? I still believe the strength of any National club is
   ? derived from having strong chapters; even the Hell's Angels
   understand
   ? the concept; it works.? To my way of thinking, a National club is
   only
   ? as strong as it's weakest chapter, we must do more to support the
   ? chapters.? Helping build membership and spreading their influence,
   ? to grow strong is to grow from the base upwards. I think everybody
   ? knows the root system of a tree has a far greater spread than the
   ? limbs, branches and leaves; so too does a National club. Real
   strength
   ? comes from a strong base; any strong wind can fell a tree with weak
   ? roots.
   ? Members wanted to know if they could switch Chapters; yes, now you
   can,
   ? but only one Chapter gets the dues rebate and you may only do it once
   ? per year.? I'm told the Chapter rebate is made 60-90 days after every
   ? member renews or joins, so if you are moving and do not wish to pay
   ? local chapter dues again, please make your switch when you renew.
   ? We established a PayPal account to accept dues, so now those who want
   ? to use a bank check or different credit card can do so easily.
   ? We have been seeking benefits for POCA members; thus far you are
   ? entitled to receive a 5% reduction in Collector Car Insurance
   ? from American Modern or Heacock; please contact me for the right
   agent
   ? to call.? Denali PLS also offers a 10% rebate on hearing aids to POCA
   ? members. We are seeking more; if you have a company or service that
   you
   ? wish to turn on to our members, please contact me.
   ? In the works is our new DeTomaso Pantera Registry, I am looking for
   ? volunteers to assist in this effort, please reach out to me, it will
   be
   ? the finest registry in any car club, where the Car will be the Star,
   ? not the member who owns it.
   ? We wanted to add POCA Jr. Members; that also did not happen.
   ? We elected to bring Tom Tjaarda to the US as our guest in November
   ? where I have secured a special guest judge status for him on Saturday
   ? and Sunday at the Hilton Head Island Concours and Speed Classic.? I
   ? have been allowed a special presentation area for 12 DeTomaso Cars.?
   I
   ? am seeking prime examples that can make the trip to HHI, SC.? Qvale,
   ? Vallelunga, Deauville, Longchamp, P70, P5000 and all variations of
   the
   ? Pantera.? It is a very prestigious event with tons of national
   ? automotive press; we will reap lots of National exposure as a result.
   ? I tried to build support for a single National POCA Charity effort,
   ? something like a Toy Drive with the USMC at Christmas. I do it with
   my
   ? own club; last season we donated 1,200 toys in 3 hours; that also did
   ? not pass.
   ? Thanks to my friend and Southeast Pantera member Rob Dumoulins, we
   ? devised the DeTomaso 911 Directory (D911D) which is an opt in program
   ? to be on call 24/7 to assist any POCA member who may be traveling and
   ? develops an emergency issue.? You can provide help in any number of
   ? ways, from simply directing them to professional services or going
   out
   ? to find them on the side of the road and helping to fix a problem.?
   All
   ? you have to do is sign up on the website to be a real life POCA hero.
   ? Here are some things that you can expect in the near future.
   ? Everybody will be receiving a new POCA patch soon in DeTomaso Aqua,
   ? Black and Silver; it's just a small token to thank you for being a
   ? member.
   ? Everybody will be getting a new plastic POCA membership card that
   will
   ? also have a slot cut into it so that it can become a name tag for
   ? chapter events, car shows, etc.
   ? I am working on a better New Member welcome package proposal to
   present
   ? to the BOD for approval, those buying cars for $60,000 - $400,000 h