[DeTomaso] Fwd: This list versus new POCA site

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Sat May 21 12:04:39 EDT 2016 

I spend my car time at 4 locations.

1.  This list, which I love.  This is the best group of car guys that I
know.
2.  The Space City e-mail list, which I also love.  Same quality of
people, but a smaller group.
3.  http://www.fordfe.com.  I¹ve always had a weakness for the Ford FE.
4.  http://www.clubcobra.com.

I don¹t know that I care that much about e-mail list vs. forum.  Both
work, and they both have pros and cons.  I care a lot more that the
content is uncensored, unbiased, and that the participants treat one
another with respect.

www.fordfe.com is a very early style of web forum.  It is simple and
plain, but it works very well.  You can browse and search for free.  You
have to register to post, but it¹s still free.  I don¹t know how they get
their funding.  I don¹t remember seeing ads, so maybe some of the members
pay the hosting fees to network54.

www.clubcobra.com is a newer style web forum.  It has all of the bells and
whistles.  It¹s tough to put a website together like this, and I have to
say this one works. I don¹t think there is a members only area.  I don¹t
recall seeing anything about member vs. non-member.  For what it¹s worth,
I joined the Cobra club just because I thought it was the right thing to
do, even though my membership dues may or may not support the club cobra
website.

I have also browsed www.viperalley.com and www.viperclub.org, which are
both very well done.  I haven¹t been on those websites since I sold my
Viper, though.

The new POCA website looks great, but where¹s the forum link on the main
page?  Wait - it¹s probably only available if you are a member.  There¹s a
link for Rebuilding the ZF, but it¹s in the Members Only section too.
That¹s my biggest beef with the POCA website.  It¹s pushing too hard to,
³Hey!! We have great content, but you can¹t see it until you pony up.²

<end-of-rant-for-now>



On 5/21/16, 10:14 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:

>   Dennis,
>   I think you have a great view on how it's really supposed to work.  If
>   a person enjoys the on-line format, it's -there- for them to use.  If
>   they like this format, it's there for them to use.  If they like both,
>   it's there for them to use.
>   I think about how I got to the PI forum and see postings from Jack
>   DeRyke, who also posts on this email list.  I'm a members of many
>   on-line forums and I go there when I need to, but I'm more dedicated to
>   this list and as Chuck Engles pointed out in another email, this is
>   like walking into a pub and sitting down among friends with a pint of
>   beer and just shooting the breeze.
>   An on-line forum can be that way too, especially if you get email
>   delivery of all the postings; though you still have to go on-line to
>   reply.
>   The new POCA forum has pretty much the same features as the old on-line
>   forum that was on the old web-site, but it hardly got used.  I tried to
>   stimulate some use early on, but nothing much happened.  The new web
>   site is more exciting and has the added benefit of tracking actual
>   memberships as well.  That part doesn't work as well for folks who are
>   a little Internet shy or who don't have email, but it's what I think
>   is  a step in the right direction; I'm just not sure I agree with how
>   it's all being kind of forced on people.
>   But I agree that both formats are viable and useful.
>   Asa  Jay
>Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>& Shelley Marie
>Spokane, WA
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>   On 5/21/2016 2:39 AM, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso wrote:
>
>   Begin forwarded message:
>
>   From: Dennis Valdez [3]<[1]sjcarguy60 at yahoo.com>
>   Date: May 21, 2016 at 2:37:23 AM PDT
>   To: Larry Finch [4]<[2]fresnofinches at aol.com>
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] This list versus new POCA site
>
>   Larry, I've tried the new forum also and don't see anything wrong with
>   the tool.  I'm sure with some care and feeding it could be great like
>   the PI forum, once populated with great content and activity.
>   Personally, I prefer the bulletin board type forum like PI or now the
>   POCO forum over the email list. Easier to organize and find
>   information.  This email stream is like sitting at a big table with a
>   lot of your friends having several conversations at once about
>   different stuff. You'll miss something sometimes, and have no idea how
>   to search the years of history to find stuff.
>   Having said that I gotta remember as SOBill says "the main thing is to
>   keep the main thing the main thing". For me, the main thing is new and
>   old friends with a common interest in great cars.  So wherever I find
>   those great people, I will go and adapt to whatever tool they prefer.
>
>     On May 20, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>     [5]<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>     All,
>
>     I have been active on the new POCA forum. (Please don't hate. I like
>     new and shiny things)
>
>     It is much like the PI forum, but not nearly as intuitive or easy to
>     use. Smart phone use is quite trying.
>
>     What I noticed today though was the volume of that new site versus
>     the volume of this resurrected email list.
>
>     I think I'm being conservative to say the posts here outnumber the
>     POCA forum by at least 10 to 1.
>
>     Not sure what that means, but it must mean something..........
>
>     Just saying.  ;-)
>
>     Larry -
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