[DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10 update onto PCs
thomas
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Fri May 20 14:36:03 EDT 2016
No, OS-X is not Linux either. The old MacOS had no UNIX relation at all. The current OS-X was brought in from Next when Jobs returned to apple and is based on BSD/Mach, AFAIK.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)
> 20 maj 2016 kl. 20:25 skrev Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>:
>
> Sorry Thomas. I said Mac OS-X (not MacOS which was jettisoned long
> ago). Mac OS-X is most
> certainly Linux. Not belabor the point, but I have the complete
> history, where when and why
> if you are interested. ;-)
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> From: Thomas Toernblom <[2]tipo874 at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: Terry Himes <[3]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Cc: Asa Jay Laughton <[4]asajay at asajay.com>, Larry Stock
> <[5]larrys at panteraparts.com>, "[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green
> <[8]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10
> update onto PCs
>
> Sorry Terry, MacOS is definitely not Linux.
> Based on BSD/Mach AFAIK, so closer to Solaris than Linux, which I know
> you like, or at least used to like
> I still enjoy seeing clips from various Mission Controls and seeing Sun
> branded monitors and keyboards.
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> 20 maj 2016 kl. 19:41 skrev Himes, Terry (397C)
> <[9]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>:
>
> Welcome to WWM. Wonderful World of Microsoft. I don't like Apple
>
> either, but Mac's run Linux
>
> (OS-X) and I LOVE LOVE LOVE Unix. Best development system
> ever. And
>
> always has been since the
>
> release of the Mach3 Kernel. Very stable and easy to maintain.
> IMHO
>
> Make the switch. You will never go back. We are almost 99% Mac's
> within
>
> JPL.
>
> PS - I run Windoze7 in a Vmware virtual machine (VM) within my Mac.
>
> NEVER had a problem over the
>
> last ~5 years. Best $50 I ever spent. (I have 2 Apps that only run
> on
>
> Windoze)
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
>
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1][10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> From: DeTomaso <[2][11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf
>
> of Asa Jay Laughton <[3][12]asajay at asajay.com>
>
> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:55 AM
>
> To: Larry Stock <[4][13]larrys at panteraparts.com>
>
> Cc: "[5][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
>
> <[6][15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green
>
> <[7][16]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10
>
> update onto PCs
>
> Why do I feel like making a shortt joke here?
>
> Yes, I got the popup on one of my home machines and I usually just
>
> dismiss it until I have time to remove the KB update -again- (why
> does
>
> Microsoft keep overiding my wishes)...
>
> Except -this- time instead of dismissing it, it automatically
> scheduled
>
> the upgrade. I was like...WTF? I had to manually unschedule
> it. Now
>
> I'm fearful its automatically doing it to that home computer while
> I'm
>
> at work. Not cool.
>
> Asa
>
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
>
> Larry Stock <[8][17]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer in
> our
>
> network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing
>
> company
>
> that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows 10
>
> don^1t
>
> offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures
> that
>
> nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck
> with
>
> Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data
> logger
>
> that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost
>
> everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows
> program
>
> for
>
> him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give us
> a
>
> choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is
> going
>
> to
>
> screw up manufactures all over the country today.
>
> Larry
>
> On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
>
> <[9][18]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>
> [10][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back,
> my
>
> PC
>
> was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because
> some
>
> expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10.
>
> If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting
> in
>
> Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates.
>
> Ken
>
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No, OS-X is not Linux either. The old MacOS had no UNIX relation at
all. The current OS-X was brought in from Next when Jobs returned to
apple and is based on BSD/Mach, AFAIK.
[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)
20 maj 2016 kl. 20:25 skrev Himes, Terry (397C)
<[2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>:
Sorry Thomas. I said Mac OS-X (not MacOS which was jettisoned long
ago). Mac OS-X is most
certainly Linux. Not belabor the point, but I have the complete
history, where when and why
if you are interested. ;-)
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1][3]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: Thomas Toernblom <[2][4]tipo874 at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:10 AM
To: Terry Himes <[3][5]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Asa Jay Laughton <[4][6]asajay at asajay.com>, Larry Stock
<[5][7]larrys at panteraparts.com>,
"[6][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[7][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green
<[8][10]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10
update onto PCs
Sorry Terry, MacOS is definitely not Linux.
Based on BSD/Mach AFAIK, so closer to Solaris than Linux, which I
know
you like, or at least used to like
I still enjoy seeing clips from various Mission Controls and seeing
Sun
branded monitors and keyboards.
Cheers,
Thomas
20 maj 2016 kl. 19:41 skrev Himes, Terry (397C)
<[9][11]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>:
Welcome to WWM. Wonderful World of Microsoft. I don't like
Apple
either, but Mac's run Linux
(OS-X) and I LOVE LOVE LOVE Unix. Best development system
ever. And
always has been since the
release of the Mach3 Kernel. Very stable and easy to maintain.
IMHO
Make the switch. You will never go back. We are almost 99% Mac's
within
JPL.
PS - I run Windoze7 in a Vmware virtual machine (VM) within my
Mac.
NEVER had a problem over the
last ~5 years. Best $50 I ever spent. (I have 2 Apps that only
run
on
Windoze)
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1][10][12]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso
<[2][11][13]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of Asa Jay Laughton <[3][12][14]asajay at asajay.com>
Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:55 AM
To: Larry Stock <[4][13][15]larrys at panteraparts.com>
Cc: "[5][14][16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[6][15][17]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green
<[7][16][18]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10
update onto PCs
Why do I feel like making a shortt joke here?
Yes, I got the popup on one of my home machines and I usually just
dismiss it until I have time to remove the KB update -again- (why
does
Microsoft keep overiding my wishes)...
Except -this- time instead of dismissing it, it automatically
scheduled
the upgrade. I was like...WTF? I had to manually unschedule
it. Now
I'm fearful its automatically doing it to that home computer while
I'm
at work. Not cool.
Asa
Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
Larry Stock <[8][17][19]larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:
Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer
in
our
network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing
company
that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows
10
don^1t
offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures
that
nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck
with
Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data
logger
that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost
everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows
program
for
him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give
us
a
choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is
going
to
screw up manufactures all over the country today.
Larry
On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via
DeTomaso"
<[9][18][20]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[10][19][21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back,
my
PC
was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because
some
expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10.
If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the
setting
in
Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates.
Ken
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