[DeTomaso] Rear Window

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Wed Mar 23 01:07:45 EDT 2016


I remember years ago somebody tested a low profile replacement for the stock AC fan and the stock can greatly outperformed it?

Stock ain't broke--don't fix it. :)

Mike

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 20:54, "Stephen" <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:

> Hmmm - looks like a 10 inch opening in the original shroud, and Spal makes a
> low-profile pusher -
> https://jet.com/product/detail/2aa79945005d4343a7ecd53e0cdd1409?gclid=CLKtuP
> nz1csCFUVhfgodUd8LVQ  only 2.05 inches thick.  Hmmm.  650 CFM.  Only $58.
> 
> Stephen Nelson
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> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Dave
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> Or reverse the leads and turn the impeller over.
> (Ok - not helpful)
> dave
> 
> 
> On 3/22/2016 6:06 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>    Hmmm - reverse the leads on the existing fan or move the condenser to
>>    the front of the car.  Hmmm...
>> 
>> 
>>    The work I've done suggests reversing air flow would likely be pretty
>>    darned effective, especially at speed.  But, will have to wait for
>>    summer to see if it really does make the a/c colder.
>> 
>> 
>>    I also suspect it would be interesting to be cruising down the road
> and
>>    s/d the condenser fan - and see if the temperature at the a/c vents
>>    goes up, down or holds.  Absolutely, monitor the temperature - and
> make
>>    sure you don't over pressure your system (an increasing vent
>>    temperature would be a pretty good warning).  But, it would give one a
>>    better idea of the impact of a sucker fan on the condenser.
>> 
>> 
>>    Fortunately 5332 is still using R12 - I ended up with around 40 pounds
>>    of it when the big switch hit.  So, plan to stay on it for all my
> older
>>    cars.  Less risk of hoses going out.
>> 
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>>    From: jgkrenton at comcast.net [mailto:jgkrenton at comcast.net]
>>    Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:08 PM
>>    To: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
>>    Cc: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>; detomaso at poca.com
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Window
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>> 
>>    You could always move the condenser to the front of the car like many
>>    have done.  I believe this modification is reported to be quite
>>    effective.
>> 
>> 
>>    Jeff Kimball/2467
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>> 
>>    You are right Jeff - especially because the fan powers from a wire on
>>    the dash-mounted temperature control that is separate from the wire
>>    that powers the a/c compressor clutch.
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>>    On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Stephen <[16]steve at snclocks.com
>>    <mailto:steve at snclocks.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>     The positive pressure under the rear of the car when it is moving at
>>       speed, coupled with the likely vacuum behind the car reduces the
>>       efficiency of the a/c condenser fan.  My tests suggest that around
>>    60
>>       mph the air-flow through the condenser is reduced by about 40%.  At
>>       around 80 mph it is reduced by over 50%.  While I don't have a
>>    massive
>>       amount of data, what I have suggests that the decrease in flow
>>    through
>>       the condenser is not directly proportional to car speed, and that,
>>    in
>>       the 90 to 100 mph range the flow through the a/c condenser drops to
>>       around nothing.
>> 
>> 
>>    Sounds like if you are going to be cruising at very high speeds, just
>>    having a kill switch on the condenser fans would be helpful. That
> would
>>    be easy to wire I would think.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    Jeff
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