[DeTomaso] Old Website and Old Email Forum
Lynn Wall
lwall67 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 18 21:50:07 EDT 2016
Agreed. This is foolish. Grow the hell up.
Maybe all the haters can just post to each other and save all of us the headache of reading the vitriol.
Also. Michael, make it 31. I appreciate your efforts on our behalf. I appreciate your passion.
Keep up the good work!!
Lynn
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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Thomas Upton <tomupton77 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Excuse me, but you guys are all acting like children. It is a damn car
> and a club, nothing else. Who is this guy you are asking. I own three
> Panteras and I have no clue what the vin numbers are and don't care.
> Two are race cars ( 72) and one is a street car (74). They are
> interesting cars, but nothing else. Clubs and friends interested in the
> same thing are important and should be valued. Grow up.
>
> On Mar 18, 2016 8:00 PM, "Scott Couchman via DeTomaso"
> <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A A Michael, First, my reply to your post focused strictly on your
> means,
> A A not your ends since you established the ZERO tolerance for
> being rude.
> A A I suggested you're blind to your own behavior.
> A A Second, I learned years ago to fact check before stating
> someone hasn't
> A A "volunteered to do ANYTHING." No worries.....I won't send you
> anymore
> A A emails. Best to you. Scott
> A A On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Michael Shortt
> <[1][2]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> A A wrote:
> A A You gentlemen are entitled to your opinion.
> A A Meanwhile, everybody else seems to like the direction that the
> club is
> A A taking
> A A and if it takes leadership with a purpose to accomplish more
> progress,
> A A I intend on delivering it.
> A A The BOD meetings are for business purposes, perhaps your
> professional
> A A meeting experience is limited,
> A A there is no time for cross talk, beating a subject to death or
> telling
> A A stories about the old days.
> A A My goal remains to go through the loaded agenda as fast as I
> can,
> A A listen to everybody who needs to speak
> A A while restoring a business like atmosphere to the proceedings.
> A A Since this BOD has taken office, we have accomplished more in 3
> months
> A A than the last few
> A A BODs have done collectively in years.
> A A There are no more rumors of financial fraud, no rumors of any
> kind.
> A A Bob Reid has done a superb job and I have the third paty CPA
> A A verification to prove it.
> A A For the first time is years and years, there were financials
> printed in
> A A the newsletter.
> A A We have not only had actual monthly BOD meetings, we invite
> others to
> A A listen and to even listen to a recording.
> A A I have personally made it a point to have monthly telephone
> calls with
> A A Chapter Presidents, in fact, on Wednesday
> A A night, I had to do it twice for two different groups, that made
> 4 four
> A A Cleveland Block meetings this year, 3 BOD meetings
> A A and March isn't even open.
> A A Ther newsletter is going digital, we will soon use those
> savings to
> A A make the new website
> A A much, much better once the bugs are worked out on the back end
> A A features,
> A A The public portion worked perfectly in our one day test of the
> new
> A A website.
> A A Strange that neither of you has volunteered to do ANYTHING.
> A A I put in 10-20 hours a week on POCA business, just like now,
> responding
> A A to your hate mail.
> A A I have received no less than 30 emails telling me how much
> better
> A A people like what is happening.
> A A I am very proud of this BOD, despite our rough start, we are
> making
> A A progress,
> A A we are growing the club each and every month, Judy gleefully
> tells us
> A A each month how many new members we have.
> A A The Bylaws are being reviewed, the newsletter and profiles look
> better
> A A than ever and are being produced and produced on time.
> A A We have excellent minutes of our meeting, advertising will soon
> start
> A A to add to the coffers and allow even more improvements.
> A A The 2016 Fun Rally has effective new leadership and they have a
> plan in
> A A place, thus far, it appears that attendance will be
> A A at a record level in both people and cars.
> A A John Buckman and Mike Burnnett provide invaulable guidance to
> me.
> A A We are bringing in entire new model groups as new chapters and
> A A expanding the club all over the world with Intl Chapters.
> A A If you are unhappy with my leadership, please run against me at
> the
> A A next opportunity,
> A A meanwhile, if you want to criticize from out in the field,
> please do,
> A A but know that your opinion's worth
> A A has direct coorleation to your contributions to making things
> better.
> A A What have you done lately?
> A A Michael Shortt
> A A On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:40 AM, <[2][3]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> A A A Dear Scott:A A Well said, sir.A A Warmest regards,A Chuck
> Engles
> A A On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso
> wrote:
> A A A If there is ZERO tolerance "to those trying to be rude", I
> suggest
> A A A you take a hard look at yourself. I've listened to the last
> two BOD
> A A A calls, and I'm my opinion, you're rude to your own BOD
> members. I
> A A A also find it offensive to suggest members that don't agree
> with you
> A A A should not renew their membership because you've got "new
> members
> A A A coming in monthly". That's not what I call leadership! Your
> A A A "plethora of IT experts" comment and non "POCA dues paying
> members
> A A A in your own name" both seemed to me were clearly intended to
> be
> A A A rude!
> A A A Your ZERO tolerance only seems to apply to others. I'm
> working hard
> A A A to grow my local chapter and to contribute to POCA. I like
> that
> A A A you're offering new ideas, but the attitude I read in email
> and this
> A A A forum post isn't helping.
> A A A On Mar 16, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Michael Shortt
> A A A <[3][4]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> A A A A Greetings,
> A A A A As some of you have experienced, we tested the new
> website today.
> A A A A while much of it worked great ( the public accessible
> sections) ,
> A A A some,
> A A A A if not most of the backend features did not work
> A A A A as planned.
> A A A A The only way to tell was to do it and see what happened,
> now we
> A A A know.
> A A A A The right people are now involved and working to correct
> the
> A A A issues.
> A A A A There will be hard changes, the old forum archives will
> be
> A A A available
> A A A A only by a link to the old records.
> A A A A the new forum is not done the same and the old
> information can not
> A A A be
> A A A A moved over.
> A A A A The capabilities of the new forum will make it worth the
> change,
> A A A if for
> A A A A no other reason than
> A A A A security which was once again violated this month and had
> shut
> A A A down 1/3
> A A A A - 1/2 of the list.
> A A A A I have spent two months asking for volunteers to help
> with the
> A A A A transition, nobody stepped up,
> A A A A now suddenly we seem to have a plethora of IT experts,
> where have
> A A A you
> A A A A been?
> A A A A We still need help to learn the new system and I'd love
> to involve
> A A A more
> A A A A people
> A A A A and assign them specific pages within the site to manage,
> this
> A A A would
> A A A A certainly be a better way
> A A A A of doing it and reduce the work load on just a couple of
> people to
> A A A do
> A A A A everything.
> A A A A To those who have complained, thanks for helping us find
> areas
> A A A than
> A A A A needed help.
> A A A A If you complained and are not a POCA dues paying members
> in your
> A A A own
> A A A A name, A thanks
> A A A A to you as well, it's always great to know who you are.
> A A A A Lots of people are working hard as volunteers on your
> behalf, ZERO
> A A A A tolerance will be givenA
> A A A A to those trying to be rude and counterproductive to the
> success of
> A A A this
> A A A A club, we simply do not need you.
> A A A A Far too many A BOD members and others have sweated,
> toiled, and
> A A A worked
> A A A A hard for years.
> A A A A POCA has existed for over 35 years always put up with
> nastiness,
> A A A Some
> A A A A leaders and workers have justA
> A A A A shut down and just not communicated with the membership
> at all
> A A A because
> A A A A frankly, doing nothing is a lot calmer. A
> A A A A Let me cheerfully inform everyone that our attitude is to
> put the
> A A A club
> A A A A first,
> A A A A to be customer service freindly and to make the POCA
> experience
> A A A great
> A A A A for everybody,
> A A A A Rome wasn't built in a day, I doubt any Pantera was
> completed in a
> A A A day
> A A A A and I know these improvements will come
> A A A A more slowly than we want.AA I also know that once they
> are
> A A A released,
> A A A A massaged and worked on, it will be a far better
> A A A A website experience.
> A A A A If that isn't good enough for some of you, renewal is
> always a
> A A A choice.
> A A A A We have new members coming in monthly who seem
> A A A A to have a good attitude and who want to see us progress
> into a
> A A A brighter
> A A A A future.
> A A A A Michael Shortt
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