[DeTomaso] Old Website and Old Email Forum
scottcouchman at yahoo.com
scottcouchman at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 18 20:55:42 EDT 2016
Michael, First, my reply to your post focused strictly on your means, not your ends since you established the ZERO tolerance for being rude. I suggested you're blind to your own behavior.
Second, I learned years ago to fact check before stating someone hasn't "volunteered to do ANYTHING." No worries.....I won't send you anymore emails. Best to you. Scott
> On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You gentlemen are entitled to your opinion.
>
> Meanwhile, everybody else seems to like the direction that the club is taking
>
> and if it takes leadership with a purpose to accomplish more progress, I intend on delivering it.
>
> The BOD meetings are for business purposes, perhaps your professional meeting experience is limited,
>
> there is no time for cross talk, beating a subject to death or telling stories about the old days.
>
> My goal remains to go through the loaded agenda as fast as I can, listen to everybody who needs to speak
>
> while restoring a business like atmosphere to the proceedings.
>
> Since this BOD has taken office, we have accomplished more in 3 months than the last few
>
> BODs have done collectively in years.
>
> There are no more rumors of financial fraud, no rumors of any kind.
>
> Bob Reid has done a superb job and I have the third paty CPA verification to prove it.
>
> For the first time is years and years, there were financials printed in the newsletter.
>
> We have not only had actual monthly BOD meetings, we invite others to listen and to even listen to a recording.
>
> I have personally made it a point to have monthly telephone calls with Chapter Presidents, in fact, on Wednesday
> night, I had to do it twice for two different groups, that made 4 four Cleveland Block meetings this year, 3 BOD meetings
> and March isn't even open.
>
> Ther newsletter is going digital, we will soon use those savings to make the new website
>
> much, much better once the bugs are worked out on the back end features,
>
> The public portion worked perfectly in our one day test of the new website.
>
> Strange that neither of you has volunteered to do ANYTHING.
>
> I put in 10-20 hours a week on POCA business, just like now, responding to your hate mail.
>
> I have received no less than 30 emails telling me how much better people like what is happening.
>
> I am very proud of this BOD, despite our rough start, we are making progress,
>
> we are growing the club each and every month, Judy gleefully tells us each month how many new members we have.
>
> The Bylaws are being reviewed, the newsletter and profiles look better than ever and are being produced and produced on time.
>
> We have excellent minutes of our meeting, advertising will soon start to add to the coffers and allow even more improvements.
>
> The 2016 Fun Rally has effective new leadership and they have a plan in place, thus far, it appears that attendance will be
>
> at a record level in both people and cars.
>
> John Buckman and Mike Burnnett provide invaulable guidance to me.
>
> We are bringing in entire new model groups as new chapters and expanding the club all over the world with Intl Chapters.
>
> If you are unhappy with my leadership, please run against me at the next opportunity,
>
> meanwhile, if you want to criticize from out in the field, please do, but know that your opinion's worth
>
> has direct coorleation to your contributions to making things better. What have you done lately?
>
> Michael Shortt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:40 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>> Dear Scott: Well said, sir. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote:
>>
>>> If there is ZERO tolerance "to those trying to be rude", I suggest you take a hard look at yourself. I've listened to the last two BOD calls, and I'm my opinion, you're rude to your own BOD members. I also find it offensive to suggest members that don't agree with you should not renew their membership because you've got "new members coming in monthly". That's not what I call leadership! Your "plethora of IT experts" comment and non "POCA dues paying members in your own name" both seemed to me were clearly intended to be rude!
>>> Your ZERO tolerance only seems to apply to others. I'm working hard to grow my local chapter and to contribute to POCA. I like that you're offering new ideas, but the attitude I read in email and this forum post isn't helping.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> As some of you have experienced, we tested the new website today.
>>>> while much of it worked great ( the public accessible sections) , some,
>>>> if not most of the backend features did not work
>>>> as planned.
>>>> The only way to tell was to do it and see what happened, now we know.
>>>> The right people are now involved and working to correct the issues.
>>>> There will be hard changes, the old forum archives will be available
>>>> only by a link to the old records.
>>>> the new forum is not done the same and the old information can not be
>>>> moved over.
>>>> The capabilities of the new forum will make it worth the change, if for
>>>> no other reason than
>>>> security which was once again violated this month and had shut down 1/3
>>>> - 1/2 of the list.
>>>> I have spent two months asking for volunteers to help with the
>>>> transition, nobody stepped up,
>>>> now suddenly we seem to have a plethora of IT experts, where have you
>>>> been?
>>>> We still need help to learn the new system and I'd love to involve more
>>>> people
>>>> and assign them specific pages within the site to manage, this would
>>>> certainly be a better way
>>>> of doing it and reduce the work load on just a couple of people to do
>>>> everything.
>>>> To those who have complained, thanks for helping us find areas than
>>>> needed help.
>>>> If you complained and are not a POCA dues paying members in your own
>>>> name, A thanks
>>>> to you as well, it's always great to know who you are.
>>>> Lots of people are working hard as volunteers on your behalf, ZERO
>>>> tolerance will be givenA
>>>> to those trying to be rude and counterproductive to the success of this
>>>> club, we simply do not need you.
>>>> Far too many A BOD members and others have sweated, toiled, and worked
>>>> hard for years.
>>>> POCA has existed for over 35 years always put up with nastiness, Some
>>>> leaders and workers have justA
>>>> shut down and just not communicated with the membership at all because
>>>> frankly, doing nothing is a lot calmer. A
>>>> Let me cheerfully inform everyone that our attitude is to put the club
>>>> first,
>>>> to be customer service freindly and to make the POCA experience great
>>>> for everybody,
>>>> Rome wasn't built in a day, I doubt any Pantera was completed in a day
>>>> and I know these improvements will come
>>>> more slowly than we want.A I also know that once they are released,
>>>> massaged and worked on, it will be a far better
>>>> website experience.
>>>> If that isn't good enough for some of you, renewal is always a choice.
>>>> We have new members coming in monthly who seem
>>>> to have a good attitude and who want to see us progress into a brighter
>>>> future.
>>>> Michael Shortt
>>>> --
>>>> Michael L. Shortt
>>>> Savannah, Georgia
>>>> [1]www.michaelshortt.com
>>>> [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
>>>> 912-232-9390
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>>>> communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the sender that
>>>> you
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>>>>
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> Michael L. Shortt
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Michael, First, my reply to your post focused strictly on your means,
not your ends since you established the ZERO tolerance for being rude.
I suggested you're blind to your own behavior.
Second, I learned years ago to fact check before stating someone hasn't
"volunteered to do ANYTHING." No worries.....I won't send you anymore
emails. Best to you. Scott
On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:07 AM, Michael Shortt <[1]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
wrote:
You gentlemen are entitled to your opinion.
Meanwhile, everybody else seems to like the direction that the club is
taking
and if it takes leadership with a purpose to accomplish more progress,
I intend on delivering it.
The BOD meetings are for business purposes, perhaps your professional
meeting experience is limited,
there is no time for cross talk, beating a subject to death or telling
stories about the old days.
My goal remains to go through the loaded agenda as fast as I can,
listen to everybody who needs to speak
while restoring a business like atmosphere to the proceedings.
Since this BOD has taken office, we have accomplished more in 3 months
than the last few
BODs have done collectively in years.
There are no more rumors of financial fraud, no rumors of any kind.
Bob Reid has done a superb job and I have the third paty CPA
verification to prove it.
For the first time is years and years, there were financials printed in
the newsletter.
We have not only had actual monthly BOD meetings, we invite others to
listen and to even listen to a recording.
I have personally made it a point to have monthly telephone calls with
Chapter Presidents, in fact, on Wednesday
night, I had to do it twice for two different groups, that made 4 four
Cleveland Block meetings this year, 3 BOD meetings
and March isn't even open.
Ther newsletter is going digital, we will soon use those savings to
make the new website
much, much better once the bugs are worked out on the back end
features,
The public portion worked perfectly in our one day test of the new
website.
Strange that neither of you has volunteered to do ANYTHING.
I put in 10-20 hours a week on POCA business, just like now, responding
to your hate mail.
I have received no less than 30 emails telling me how much better
people like what is happening.
I am very proud of this BOD, despite our rough start, we are making
progress,
we are growing the club each and every month, Judy gleefully tells us
each month how many new members we have.
The Bylaws are being reviewed, the newsletter and profiles look better
than ever and are being produced and produced on time.
We have excellent minutes of our meeting, advertising will soon start
to add to the coffers and allow even more improvements.
The 2016 Fun Rally has effective new leadership and they have a plan in
place, thus far, it appears that attendance will be
at a record level in both people and cars.
John Buckman and Mike Burnnett provide invaulable guidance to me.
We are bringing in entire new model groups as new chapters and
expanding the club all over the world with Intl Chapters.
If you are unhappy with my leadership, please run against me at the
next opportunity,
meanwhile, if you want to criticize from out in the field, please do,
but know that your opinion's worth
has direct coorleation to your contributions to making things better.
What have you done lately?
Michael Shortt
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:40 AM, <[2]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
Dear Scott: Well said, sir. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote:
If there is ZERO tolerance "to those trying to be rude", I suggest
you take a hard look at yourself. I've listened to the last two BOD
calls, and I'm my opinion, you're rude to your own BOD members. I
also find it offensive to suggest members that don't agree with you
should not renew their membership because you've got "new members
coming in monthly". That's not what I call leadership! Your
"plethora of IT experts" comment and non "POCA dues paying members
in your own name" both seemed to me were clearly intended to be
rude!
Your ZERO tolerance only seems to apply to others. I'm working hard
to grow my local chapter and to contribute to POCA. I like that
you're offering new ideas, but the attitude I read in email and this
forum post isn't helping.
On Mar 16, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Michael Shortt
<[3]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings,
As some of you have experienced, we tested the new website today.
while much of it worked great ( the public accessible sections) ,
some,
if not most of the backend features did not work
as planned.
The only way to tell was to do it and see what happened, now we
know.
The right people are now involved and working to correct the
issues.
There will be hard changes, the old forum archives will be
available
only by a link to the old records.
the new forum is not done the same and the old information can not
be
moved over.
The capabilities of the new forum will make it worth the change,
if for
no other reason than
security which was once again violated this month and had shut
down 1/3
- 1/2 of the list.
I have spent two months asking for volunteers to help with the
transition, nobody stepped up,
now suddenly we seem to have a plethora of IT experts, where have
you
been?
We still need help to learn the new system and I'd love to involve
more
people
and assign them specific pages within the site to manage, this
would
certainly be a better way
of doing it and reduce the work load on just a couple of people to
do
everything.
To those who have complained, thanks for helping us find areas
than
needed help.
If you complained and are not a POCA dues paying members in your
own
name, A thanks
to you as well, it's always great to know who you are.
Lots of people are working hard as volunteers on your behalf, ZERO
tolerance will be givenA
to those trying to be rude and counterproductive to the success of
this
club, we simply do not need you.
Far too many A BOD members and others have sweated, toiled, and
worked
hard for years.
POCA has existed for over 35 years always put up with nastiness,
Some
leaders and workers have justA
shut down and just not communicated with the membership at all
because
frankly, doing nothing is a lot calmer. A
Let me cheerfully inform everyone that our attitude is to put the
club
first,
to be customer service freindly and to make the POCA experience
great
for everybody,
Rome wasn't built in a day, I doubt any Pantera was completed in a
day
and I know these improvements will come
more slowly than we want.A I also know that once they are
released,
massaged and worked on, it will be a far better
website experience.
If that isn't good enough for some of you, renewal is always a
choice.
We have new members coming in monthly who seem
to have a good attitude and who want to see us progress into a
brighter
future.
Michael Shortt
--
Michael L. Shortt
Savannah, Georgia
[1][4]www.michaelshortt.com
[2][5]michael at michaelshortt.com
[6]912-232-9390
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