[DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry

[Bill Moore]

Hello whoeveryouare. And all others.
What are you saying, I don't understand. And why no name ?

Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

-------- Original message --------
From: gow2 at rc-tech.net 
Date: 2016-03-03  8:09 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com, jderyke at aol.com, scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry 

I think the first thing POCA needs to do is define what is a legitimate
registry. If the POCA wants to spend hours searching the internet for
information to load in the registry then I would not call it a registry.
There were about 7000 cars made so if POCA has 5000 entries it would be
more fiction then legit.

Pantera owners need a legitimate registry from a legitimate Pantera
organization to represent them. It should be a registration and not a
google-wikepedea document.  I would not say that a site like that is not
valuable for investigative research but I would not call it a registry.

Making a legitimate registry is all about how the information is gathered.
Being represented by a key organization is key too. I would limit the
sources of information to come into the registry. The most valuable
information would be from those who chose to participate.

The information should be listed as "reported by owner as of date xyz". I
would allow very few other sources of information. If the Marti Report
allows you to copy their info then it would be referenced as "by the Marti
Report". I would only allow official information from say the DeTomaso
factory if found, perhaps Hall if he had a list of converted cars if they
could get that info from Bev, but that's about it. Even then if a car
shows information it's not registered.

There is a huge benefit from owners/cars who register their cars with
legitimate organization backed registries. The goal should NOT be 5000 of
the 7000 cars. That can only be fiction. If 500-1000 cars are in the
registry after several years, I would say that's a real accomplishment. It
will be a significant differentiator for cars and car owners if
legitimate.

I have 2 cars, #1905 and #1280. I have not entered them in any legitimate
registry which exist today. I live in a very rural Midwest town and I know
of half a dozen Panteras which are in no legitimate registry. If a
legitimate registry is created, and I enter it, lets say I sell the car
and the car ends up at an exotic dealership.

I bought one of my cars from an exotic dealership. I have done google
research and found the original owner but it's not an official record from
the original owner. Even if I found a copy of that info in a document
where they did the same google research there is nothing official about
it.

So I think the big question is, what makes an official legit registry that
POCA would put their name on? Anything less only muddies the marquee.
Having a non legit gogle-wikepedea type of site and calling it a registry
could really damage the brand.



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   Hello whoeveryouare. And all others.

   What are you saying, I don't understand. And why no name ?

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
   Date: 2016-03-03 8:09 AM (GMT-06:00)
   To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com, jderyke at aol.com, scott black
   <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Coming POCA Registry
   I think the first thing POCA needs to do is define what is a legitimate
   registry. If the POCA wants to spend hours searching the internet for
   information to load in the registry then I would not call it a
   registry.
   There were about 7000 cars made so if POCA has 5000 entries it would be
   more fiction then legit.
   Pantera owners need a legitimate registry from a legitimate Pantera
   organization to represent them. It should be a registration and not a
   google-wikepedea document.  I would not say that a site like that is
   not
   valuable for investigative research but I would not call it a registry.
   Making a legitimate registry is all about how the information is
   gathered.
   Being represented by a key organization is key too. I would limit the
   sources of information to come into the registry. The most valuable
   information would be from those who chose to participate.
   The information should be listed as "reported by owner as of date xyz".
   I
   would allow very few other sources of information. If the Marti Report
   allows you to copy their info then it would be referenced as "by the
   Marti
   Report". I would only allow official information from say the DeTomaso
   factory if found, perhaps Hall if he had a list of converted cars if
   they
   could get that info from Bev, but that's about it. Even then if a car
   shows information it's not registered.
   There is a huge benefit from owners/cars who register their cars with
   legitimate organization backed registries. The goal should NOT be 5000
   of
   the 7000 cars. That can only be fiction. If 500-1000 cars are in the
   registry after several years, I would say that's a real accomplishment.
   It
   will be a significant differentiator for cars and car owners if
   legitimate.
   I have 2 cars, #1905 and #1280. I have not entered them in any
   legitimate
   registry which exist today. I live in a very rural Midwest town and I
   know
   of half a dozen Panteras which are in no legitimate registry. If a
   legitimate registry is created, and I enter it, lets say I sell the car
   and the car ends up at an exotic dealership.
   I bought one of my cars from an exotic dealership. I have done google
   research and found the original owner but it's not an official record
   from
   the original owner. Even if I found a copy of that info in a document
   where they did the same google research there is nothing official about
   it.
   So I think the big question is, what makes an official legit registry
   that
   POCA would put their name on? Anything less only muddies the marquee.
   Having a non legit gogle-wikepedea type of site and calling it a
   registry
   could really damage the brand.
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