[DeTomaso] NPC -Dear Mr. John Bennett
V Michael Arias
vmichaelarias at aol.com
Thu Jun 30 17:34:01 EDT 2016
Finally, a voice of reason. Everyone should just ignore what has happened
in the past. Its over, done with and is only counterproductive to keep
pointing fingers, looking for conspiracies under every rock, email and
sneeze. This is a forum for Pantera lovers, owners and wannabes. I don't
care if you put NPC in your title, it still ends up in my mailbox and has to
be deleted. I don't need the aggravation of whether NancyGo is someone else
or if John Bennet is some sort of shill sent by the "other" side. Who cares
if he never posted before, it doesn't matter anymore. Let's get back to
PANTERA related stuff, not POCA, not racism, not anything that isn't about
the cars we love.
Thank you all for wasting everyone's time b*tchin, moaning, complaining,
attacking, defaming, slandering, expressing disgust or whatever other
vitriolic posting, whether right or wrong or in your mind justified. Get
back to Pantera, or in my most humble opinion, many current forum users are
going to just unsubscribe and be done with it and that would be exactly what
the "other" side wants - the shutdown of this forum.
Excuse me for my contribution.
V. Michael Arias, Esq.
V. Michael Arias, P.A.
100 Almeria Ave.
Suite 310
Coral Gables, FL 33134
(305) 984-6453
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-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Timko
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:24 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC -Dear Mr. John Bennett
This seems non-productive. Just let it go an go back to Pantera related
topics like dreaming of a visit to Mike Trusty's car playground.
Paul
#9270
On 6/30/2016 4:08 PM, Dave wrote:
> There is a way to get a particular email's IP address, then find the
> geographical location (city & state). I did it a few years ago but
> forget the process. Bet you could Google how to do it.
>
>
>
> From: James coyne [mailto:tecnosound at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 4:29 PM
> To: Dave; John Bennett
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com; Larry Finch
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC -Dear Mr. John Bennett
>
>
> There are clues in each one of his postings .
>
> > From: [1]dave at damardirect.com
> > To: [2]tecnosound at hotmail.com; [3]jbennett111 at zoho.com;
> [4]nathan.giles at ex3.com
> > CC: [5]detomaso at detomasolist.com; [6]fresnofinches at aol.com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:08:17 -0400
> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC -Dear Mr. John Bennett
> >
> > Who could John Bennett be??? I thought this after reading the first
> post from John Bennett.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James coyne [[7]mailto:tecnosound at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:56 AM
> > To: John Bennett; Nathan Giles
> > Cc: [8]detomaso at detomasolist.com; Larry Finch
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC -Dear Mr. John Bennett
> >
> > Dear Mr. John Bennett , Can you explain why the things that are being
> discussed on this non POCA forum are so upsetting to you when you have
> not participated whatsoever on a single topic either Pantera related or
> non-Pantera related over on the POCA forum ? (of which you claim to be
> a member of ) You were invited on this forum to share some photos of
> your car and its unique features but you have not . Nor did you respond
> when the topic of discussion was your very car . But yet you complain
> about non-Pantera related topics . ( Which on this forum , we note with
> the header NPC . )
> >
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:33:31 -0700
> > From: [9]jbennett111 at zoho.com
> > To: [10]nathan.giles at ex3.com
> > CC: [11]detomaso at detomasolist.com; [12]fresnofinches at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Is Laurie's statement truthful?
> >
> > Thank you Nathan!
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh My God.
> >
> >
> >
> > What is wrong with you people?
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't realize that this list was about as non Pantera related as
> it gets. I just joined this Pantera club with my original GTS; yes
> there is a GT in the VIN, and get subjected to this rhetoric?
> >
> >
> >
> > This has got to be the biggest form of online bullying, and Man-Child
> like behavior that I have ever witnessed in my life, from all sides! No
> matter what Mr. Shortt has done in the past, you people who disparage
> him make you all no better. I was emailed some of his posts from 9
> years ago; yes vulgar, and insulting, to say the least; I do not agree,
> but how pathetic that you have to dig up emails on someone from that
> long ago to prove your point. I have been sent personal emails from
> people outlining their grievances, and giving me reasons why I should
> defect from the club that I just joined? I was notified that some of
> the chapters are planning to secede from the national club, and that it
> is the chapter presidents arranging the little coup d'etat. Then this
> email here slamming a person who just volunteered to be a new editor
> and letting us know of the shady practice by the previous editors; I
> now wonder myself if they were on the printers payroll. At least they
> are gone. No wonder you have these issues, anyone would be abrasive and
> discontent after getting bullied in this manner. Likewise, Mr Shortt
> should not be unprofessional and abusive as the representative of a
> national organization. That is just not acceptable.
> >
> >
> >
> > Curious? Do you all spend every waking hour behind the keyboard of
> your computers and devise ways to "get back" at someone? Do you sit
> there and write things about someone from the safety of your home, make
> accusations, and point fingers because it makes you feel like a man? It
> is not what men do. There is a list of possible mental disorders that
> can be the only explanation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shame on you, and Go Nancy, an absolute peach.
> >
> >
> >
> > Who is destroying the Pantera club? Look within yourselves, and point
> your fingers inwards. All of you on both sides!
> >
> >
> >
> > Now yes as Nathan so gracelessly stated can we please get back to the
> cars?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for ruining my first club experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent using Zoho Mail
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:24:37 -0700 Nathan Giles
> <nathan.giles at ex3.com>wrote ----
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can we please get off this and focus on the cars? How much is enough?
> >
> >
> >
> > Nathan Giles
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 29, 2016, at 20:04, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > All,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Earlier today the new Profiles Editor, Laurie Basile, posted a
> rather
> >
> > > lengthy email.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > For someone who just last week talked about being "positive",
> >
> > > "congenial" and "professional", I found today's post to exhibit
> very
> >
> > > little of those qualities.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > But what struck me the strongest was the following written by
> Laurie:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > "You may recall how the DeRykes published in a Newsletter that
> Mike Drew did not
> >
> > > intend to run again as Editor of Profiles."
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hmmmm? Is that true? Seems easy enough to research as I happen
> to have the perti
> >
> > > nent 2014 newsletters right here on my desk. Let's see if I can
> find where/when
> >
> > > such a statement was placed in a newsletter, okay?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > First mention of the election was in the August, 2014 newsletter
> on page #12. Bo
> >
> > > ilerplate text from the Bylaws which outlined the term and
> duties of the officer
> >
> > > s up for election, followed by a solicitation for candidates.
> Nothing more.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Next mention of the election was in the September, 2014
> newsletter on page #9. T
> >
> > > hat page included the candidate statements from VP candidate
> Mike Burnett and Tr
> >
> > > easurer candidate Bob Reid. Providing a candidate's statement is
> required under
> >
> > > the Bylaws, but no other statements were submitted nor had any
> other members bee
> >
> > > n nominated for any of the four open positions. The only mention
> of the Annual E
> >
> > > ditor position in September's newsletter was:
> >
> > > Annual Editor -
> >
> > > Incumbent - Mike Drew, Pantera Club of Northern California
> (PCNC)
> >
> > > No candidates yet (and no Candidate Statements, either - a
> Bylaws requir
> >
> > > ement.)
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Next newsletter election mention was just the ballot included in
> the November is
> >
> > > sue. At the time the ballot was sent to the printers, no one had
> submitted a can
> >
> > > didate statement for the Annual Editor position. So the ballot
> included this -
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ANNUAL EDITOR Incumbent chose not to run again
> >
> > > No new candidate
> >
> > > Write-in candidate --------------
> >
> > > Associate Vote --------------
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have personally spoken with my friend Mike Drew and he
> acknowledges he failed
> >
> > > to submit the required statement.
> >
> > > Thus Mike, in essence, "chose not to run again" by failing to
> submit his candida
> >
> > > te's statement.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choi
> >
> > > ce." - `Freewill' by Rush, 1980
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I do not know who composed the election ballot (Election
> committee or the newsle
> >
> > > tter Editor), but in either case there was not any mis-conduct
> by the DeRykes, j
> >
> > > ust a ballot that contained a truthful statement; and it was due
> to a regrettabl
> >
> > > e omission by Mike Drew.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Laurie's statement seemed to imply the DeRykes had purposely
> lied about Mike Dre
> >
> > > w's actions. As outlined above, that is simply not true.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > If you are a POCA member, you can confirm all this by viewing
> the cited
> >
> > > newsletters which are available for viewing on the new website.
> >
> > > Larry
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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