[DeTomaso] NPC -Dear Mr. John Bennett
Don Thomas
don.thomas.ieee at gmail.com
Thu Jun 30 02:56:00 EDT 2016
James,
I found no record of John Bennett as being a member of POCA...
John's first post to this board was on June 18th. (about 11 days ago)
Additionally, John Bennett is posting his messages from Hamilton,
Waikato, New Zealand (NZ) *(98% confidence)*
Welcome John.... Do you happen to know Ed ?
Cheers !
-dt
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:55 PM, James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Mr. John Bennett , Can you explain why the things that are being
> discussed on this non POCA forum are so upsetting to you when you have
> not participated whatsoever on a single topic either Pantera related or
> non-Pantera related over on the POCA forum ? (of which you claim to be
> a member of ) You were invited on this forum to share some photos of
> your car and its unique features but you have not . Nor did you respond
> when the topic of discussion was your very car . But yet you complain
> about non-Pantera related topics . ( Which on this forum , we note with
> the header NPC . )
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:33:31 -0700
> From: jbennett111 at zoho.com
> To: nathan.giles at ex3.com
> CC: detomaso at detomasolist.com; fresnofinches at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Is Laurie's statement truthful?
> Thank you Nathan!
>
>
>
> Oh My God.
>
>
>
> What is wrong with you people?
>
>
>
> I didn't realize that this list was about as non Pantera related as it
> gets. I j
> ust joined this Pantera club with my original GTS; yes there is a GT in
> the VIN,
> and get subjected to this rhetoric?
>
>
>
> This has got to be the biggest form of online bullying, and Man-Child like
> behav
> ior that I have ever witnessed in my life, from all sides! No matter what
> Mr. Sh
> ortt has done in the past, you people who disparage him make you all no
> better.
> I was emailed some of his posts from 9 years ago; yes vulgar, and
> insulting, to
> say the least; I do not agree, but how pathetic that you have to dig up
> emails o
> n someone from that long ago to prove your point. I have been sent
> personal emai
> ls from people outlining their grievances, and giving me reasons why I
> should de
> fect from the club that I just joined? I was notified that some of the
> chapters
> are planning to secede from the national club, and that it is the chapter
> presid
> ents arranging the little coup d'etat. Then this email here slamming a
> person wh
> o just volunteered to be a new editor and letting us know of the shady
> practice
> by the previous editors; I now wonder myself if they were on the printers
> payrol
> l. At least they are gone. No wonder you have these issues, anyone would
> be abra
> sive and discontent after getting bullied in this manner. Likewise, Mr
> Shortt sh
> ould not be unprofessional and abusive as the representative of a national
> organ
> ization. That is just not acceptable.
>
>
>
> Curious? Do you all spend every waking hour behind the keyboard of your
> computer
> s and devise ways to "get back" at someone? Do you sit there and write
> things ab
> out someone from the safety of your home, make accusations, and point
> fingers be
> cause it makes you feel like a man? It is not what men do. There is a list
> of po
> ssible mental disorders that can be the only explanation.
>
>
>
> Shame on you, and Go Nancy, an absolute peach.
>
>
>
> Who is destroying the Pantera club? Look within yourselves, and point your
> finge
> rs inwards. All of you on both sides!
>
>
>
> Now yes as Nathan so gracelessly stated can we please get back to the cars?
>
>
>
> Thank you for ruining my first club experience.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> Sent using Zoho Mail
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:24:37 -0700 Nathan Giles <nathan.giles at ex3.com
> >
> ;wrote ----
>
>
>
>
> Can we please get off this and focus on the cars? How much is enough?
>
>
>
> Nathan Giles
>
>
>
> > On Jun 29, 2016, at 20:04, Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.det
> omasolist.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > All,
>
> >
>
> > Earlier today the new Profiles Editor, Laurie Basile, posted a rather
>
> > lengthy email.
>
> >
>
> > For someone who just last week talked about being "positive",
>
> > "congenial" and "professional", I found today's post to exhibit very
>
> > little of those qualities.
>
> >
>
> > But what struck me the strongest was the following written by Laurie:
>
> >
>
> > "You may recall how the DeRykes published in a Newsletter that Mike Drew
> di
> d not
>
> > intend to run again as Editor of Profiles."
>
> >
>
> > Hmmmm? Is that true? Seems easy enough to research as I happen to have
> the
> perti
>
> > nent 2014 newsletters right here on my desk. Let's see if I can find
> where/
> when
>
> > such a statement was placed in a newsletter, okay?
>
> >
>
> > First mention of the election was in the August, 2014 newsletter on page
> #1
> 2. Bo
>
> > ilerplate text from the Bylaws which outlined the term and duties of the
> of
> ficer
>
> > s up for election, followed by a solicitation for candidates. Nothing
> more.
>
>
> >
>
> > Next mention of the election was in the September, 2014 newsletter on
> page
> #9. T
>
> > hat page included the candidate statements from VP candidate Mike
> Burnett a
> nd Tr
>
> > easurer candidate Bob Reid. Providing a candidate's statement is
> required u
> nder
>
> > the Bylaws, but no other statements were submitted nor had any other
> member
> s bee
>
> > n nominated for any of the four open positions. The only mention of the
> Ann
> ual E
>
> > ditor position in September's newsletter was:
>
> > Annual Editor -
>
> > Incumbent - Mike Drew, Pantera Club of Northern California (PCNC)
>
> > No candidates yet (and no Candidate Statements, either - a Bylaws requir
>
> > ement.)
>
> >
>
> > Next newsletter election mention was just the ballot included in the
> Novemb
> er is
>
> > sue. At the time the ballot was sent to the printers, no one had
> submitted
> a can
>
> > didate statement for the Annual Editor position. So the ballot included
> thi
> s -
>
> >
>
> > ANNUAL EDITOR Incumbent chose not to run again
>
> > No new candidate
>
> > Write-in candidate --------------
>
> > Associate Vote --------------
>
> >
>
> > I have personally spoken with my friend Mike Drew and he acknowledges he
> fa
> iled
>
> > to submit the required statement.
>
> > Thus Mike, in essence, "chose not to run again" by failing to submit his
> ca
> ndida
>
> > te's statement.
>
> >
>
> > "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choi
>
> > ce." - `Freewill' by Rush, 1980
>
> >
>
> > I do not know who composed the election ballot (Election committee or
> the n
> ewsle
>
> > tter Editor), but in either case there was not any mis-conduct by the
> DeRyk
> es, j
>
> > ust a ballot that contained a truthful statement; and it was due to a
> regre
> ttabl
>
> > e omission by Mike Drew.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Laurie's statement seemed to imply the DeRykes had purposely lied about
> Mik
> e Dre
>
> > w's actions. As outlined above, that is simply not true.
>
> >
>
> > If you are a POCA member, you can confirm all this by viewing the cited
>
> > newsletters which are available for viewing on the new website.
>
> > Larry
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
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James,
I found no record of John Bennett as being a member of POCA...A
John'sA first post to this board was on June 18th. (about 11 days ago)
Additionally, John Bennett is posting his messages from Hamilton,
Waikato,A New Zealand (NZ) (98% confidence)
Welcome John.... Do you happen to know Ed ?
Cheers !
-dt
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:55 PM, James coyne
<[1]tecnosound at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A Dear Mr. John Bennett , Can you explain why the things that are
being
A A discussed on this non POCA forum are so upsetting to you when
you have
A A not participated whatsoever on a single topic either Pantera
related or
A A non-Pantera related over on the POCA forum ? (of which you
claim to be
A A a member of ) You were invited on this forum to share some
photos of
A A your car and its unique features but you have not . Nor did you
respond
A A when the topic of discussion was your very car . But yet you
complain
A A about non-Pantera related topics . ( Which on this forum , we
note with
A A the header NPC . )
A A Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:33:31 -0700
A A From: [2]jbennett111 at zoho.com
A A To: [3]nathan.giles at ex3.com
A A CC: [4]detomaso at detomasolist.com; [5]fresnofinches at aol.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Is Laurie's statement truthful?
Thank you Nathan!
Oh My God.
What is wrong with you people?
I didn't realize that this list was about as non Pantera related as
it gets. I j
ust joined this Pantera club with my original GTS; yes there is a GT
in the VIN,
A and get subjected to this rhetoric?
This has got to be the biggest form of online bullying, and
Man-Child like behav
ior that I have ever witnessed in my life, from all sides! No matter
what Mr. Sh
ortt has done in the past, you people who disparage him make you all
no better.
I was emailed some of his posts from 9 years ago; yes vulgar, and
insulting, to
say the least; I do not agree, but how pathetic that you have to dig
up emails o
n someone from that long ago to prove your point. I have been sent
personal emai
ls from people outlining their grievances, and giving me reasons why
I should de
fect from the club that I just joined? I was notified that some of
the chapters
are planning to secede from the national club, and that it is the
chapter presid
ents arranging the little coup d'etat. Then this email here slamming
a person wh
o just volunteered to be a new editor and letting us know of the
shady practice
by the previous editors; I now wonder myself if they were on the
printers payrol
l. At least they are gone. No wonder you have these issues, anyone
would be abra
sive and discontent after getting bullied in this manner. Likewise,
Mr Shortt sh
ould not be unprofessional and abusive as the representative of a
national organ
ization. That is just not acceptable.
Curious? Do you all spend every waking hour behind the keyboard of
your computer
s and devise ways to "get back" at someone? Do you sit there and
write things ab
out someone from the safety of your home, make accusations, and
point fingers be
cause it makes you feel like a man? It is not what men do. There is
a list of po
ssible mental disorders that can be the only explanation.
Shame on you, and Go Nancy, an absolute peach.
Who is destroying the Pantera club? Look within yourselves, and
point your finge
rs inwards. All of you on both sides!
Now yes as Nathan so gracelessly stated can we please get back to
the cars?
Thank you for ruining my first club experience.
John
Sent using Zoho Mail
---- On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:24:37 -0700 Nathan Giles
<[6]nathan.giles at ex3.com>
;wrote ----
Can we please get off this and focus on the cars? How much is
enough?
Nathan Giles
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 20:04, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.det
[7]omasolist.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Earlier today the new Profiles Editor, Laurie Basile, posted a
rather
> lengthy email.
>
> For someone who just last week talked about being "positive",
> "congenial" and "professional", I found today's post to exhibit
very
> little of those qualities.
>
> But what struck me the strongest was the following written by
Laurie:
>
> "You may recall how the DeRykes published in a Newsletter that
Mike Drew di
d not
> intend to run again as Editor of Profiles."
>
> Hmmmm? Is that true? Seems easy enough to research as I happen to
have the
perti
> nent 2014 newsletters right here on my desk. Let's see if I can
find where/
when
> such a statement was placed in a newsletter, okay?
>
> First mention of the election was in the August, 2014 newsletter
on page #1
2. Bo
> ilerplate text from the Bylaws which outlined the term and duties
of the of
ficer
> s up for election, followed by a solicitation for candidates.
Nothing more.
>
> Next mention of the election was in the September, 2014 newsletter
on page
#9. T
> hat page included the candidate statements from VP candidate Mike
Burnett a
nd Tr
> easurer candidate Bob Reid. Providing a candidate's statement is
required u
nder
> the Bylaws, but no other statements were submitted nor had any
other member
s bee
> n nominated for any of the four open positions. The only mention
of the Ann
ual E
> ditor position in September's newsletter was:
> Annual Editor -
> Incumbent - Mike Drew, Pantera Club of Northern California (PCNC)
> No candidates yet (and no Candidate Statements, either - a Bylaws
requir
> ement.)
>
> Next newsletter election mention was just the ballot included in
the Novemb
er is
> sue. At the time the ballot was sent to the printers, no one had
submitted
a can
> didate statement for the Annual Editor position. So the ballot
included thi
s -
>
> ANNUAL EDITOR Incumbent chose not to run again
> No new candidate
> Write-in candidate --------------
> Associate Vote --------------
>
> I have personally spoken with my friend Mike Drew and he
acknowledges he fa
iled
> to submit the required statement.
> Thus Mike, in essence, "chose not to run again" by failing to
submit his ca
ndida
> te's statement.
>
> "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choi
> ce." - `Freewill' by Rush, 1980
>
> I do not know who composed the election ballot (Election committee
or the n
ewsle
> tter Editor), but in either case there was not any mis-conduct by
the DeRyk
es, j
> ust a ballot that contained a truthful statement; and it was due
to a regre
ttabl
> e omission by Mike Drew.
>
>
> Laurie's statement seemed to imply the DeRykes had purposely lied
about Mik
e Dre
> w's actions. As outlined above, that is simply not true.
>
> If you are a POCA member, you can confirm all this by viewing the
cited
> newsletters which are available for viewing on the new website.
> Larry
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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