[DeTomaso] Again with the threats!

Sun Jun 26 17:26:07 EDT 2016

Not true, Jim Oddie, in Louisiana and most if not all of USA.
A person must apply, sign documents and pay for the security of the copyright law with The Secretary of State. 
I own four copyrights and trademarks.
Yet the trademark for my 34 year old business name would be mine regardless of paperwork because
it has and is fact that I should own it by reason of domain.
Jeff Cobb

On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>   I am not a copyright lawyer, but my understanding is that as soon as
>   someone creates something, that person has the copyright to it.  So if
>   I write a post describing "how I change the coolant in my Pantera," I
>   have the copyright to that unless I specifically sign it over to
>   someone else.  This is the issue the musicians of the '60's and '70's
>   clarified when they said they owned the music they wrote and the record
>   companies said they did. The courts found for the musicians.
> 
>   So I don't see how anyone has the copyright to a bunch of various posts
>   written by individuals as friends.  So unless someone or some company
>   is the official owner of the list and they have warned everyone who
>   posts on it that they then hold the copyright to whatever is written
>   there, the idea of a lawsuit does not make sense.  And who, exactly, is
>   the owner and how would one assign monetary damages to the copyright
>   infringement?  If the owner is the Club, the President could only file
>   a lawsuit in compliance with the Club charter, which I'm sure does
>   include that.
> 
>   Jim Oddie
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2016 10:21 am
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats!
>   If the problem is "your list" is in violation of something, and the
>   "list"
>   consist of all of "us", then including the list/us seems appropriate in
>   such discussions.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>   Behalf
>   Of Jeff Cobb
>   Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 13:08 PM
>   To: [2]audionut at hushmail.com
>   Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats!
>   Thank you sir, audionut, for some clarity.
>   Maybe this thread-neurosis may come to an end.
>   And Kurt, if this belief and understandable worry ***Apparently, "my"
>   list
>   is violating copyrights,**** is worth a minute of your thought, then
>   write
>   and ask your accuser and cc the group to have your accuser state if
>   you-us
>   are or if you-us are not apparently doing a wrong.
>   SIMPLE and if this person does not respond then you have your answer.
>   Since you seem unclear and worried then YOU MUST have your problem
>   watchdog
>   person state if what you-us are doing is wrong.
>   CLARITY WILL KILL THIS FEAR.
>   No induced problem, no wrong and no accuser then all is well.
>   Not all dogs bite.
>   Know where you are walking.
>   Lawyers will just f**k small things up.
>   This perceived issue is just a 5 hr pimple not skin cancer.
>   Keep the lawyers at bay for the big problems.
>   Jeff Cobb
>   -----------------------------------------------------
>   On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:37 AM, [4]audionut at hushmail.com wrote:
>> Relax. This is ludicrous. Absolutely nothing to worry about. No need
>> to hassle incorporating the forum.
>> 
>> 
>> Disturbed, snippety people scare others with legal threats because
>   it's
>> so easy. My schizophrenic, homeless sister does it from time to time,
>> threatening my family with legal action ever since my Dad cut her out
>> of his will over 20 years ago. He died in 1996 but to this day she
>> still pulls this one out of her crazy bag and lobs it at us.
>> 
>> 
>> The law is frighteningly confusing to most people and we all know
>   that
>> many lawyers are, shall we say, less than scrupulous so people tend
>   to
>> get a bit scared when threatened with the expensive, complicated,
>   dark
>> world of the lawsuit.
>> 
>> 
>> Don't waste a dime or another thought worrying about this nonsense--
>> 
>> 
>> But, if you are truly worried and losing sleep over this, go pay a
>> lawyer $100 and he/she will tell you the same thing.
>> Sent using Hushmail
>> On June 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kurt,
>> I'm not a lawyer, but you might think about forming a corporation to
>> run
>> the email list. It's an inexpensive way to protect your personal
>> assets
>> should this get ugly and I would think most of us would be glad to
>> fund the
>> cost.
>> Jeff - I can't believe we are having this discussion
>> 6559
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Kurt Byrnes <[6]kdb at kbyrnes.com>
>   wrote:
>>> Just so everyone is aware, I was sent another email last night
>> warning me
>>> to hire an lawyer. Apparently, "my" list is violating copyrights.
>>> 
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