[DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings fit between ears?

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 12 21:49:10 EDT 2016


You are correct that if the ears are warn, the right figure could compensate. But I don't think they are warn, so the center should be OK.  I like being able to use the shims to keep the rubber from being squeezed.  The shims also would let me correct for any lateral misalignment in the ears.
Ken

      From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
 To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com> 
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings fit between ears?
   
  Sounds like a plan.  I am reading your plan as the center illustration.

  Something that might affect your stacking dimensions would be the area
  around the holes in the ears have been rounded thinner than the main
  ear thickness due to tighting to the steel tube.  Thus the far right
  illustration could compensated for damaged ear holes

  Joe


  From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 13:39 PM
  To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings
  fit between ears?


  Hi Joe,


      Ya, it's a 3 piece design.


      I was playing around with parts last night and noticed that the
  steel tube in some misc control arm bushings I have are 1 and 13/16 and
  a perfect fit between the ear, and also have the right 3/4 inch OD for
  the plastic parts.  I can use the 1 7/16 plastic parts with the 1 13/16
  tubes and use 3/4 inch washers to center the bushings.  Then I can fit
  the washers to snugly, not tightly, fill the gaps with the metal tube
  held tightly between the ears.  I like this approach and I think this
  lets the parts work the way they are intended.


  Ken

  _______________________________________________________________________

  From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[1]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
  To: 'Ken Green' <[2]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
  Cc: [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:35 PM
  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings
  fit between ears?

  Are the bushings a 3 piece design, That is an inner sleeve and rubbers
  for each side?
  I would think the shock would be similar to the arm bushings in that
  the "sleeve" would allow you to solidly clamp down on the bolt without
  compressing the rubber.
  Will the shock width allow the use of the 1.44" bushings?  Is so, using
  plain steel washers to make the length of the sleeve to fit the 1.81"
  ears.
  Joe/5177

  -----Original Message-----
  From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
  Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
  Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 17:55 PM
  To: DeTomaso List
  Subject: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings fit
  between ears?
  I have new shock absorbers that came with bushings to wide to easily
  fit between the mount ears.  I received a drawing from Joe Byre
  (thanks) that showed the ears to be 46 +- .5 mm, or about 1 and 13/16.
  The shock bushings are 1 and 7/8, 1/16 wider.  While I could muscle
  them in and then tighten the bolts, the result is likely to cause early
  shock failure because the shocks cannot be so tight that they cannot
  slightly pivot, and being pinched between the ears may cause early
  failure (confirmed by the manufacturer).
  I also have a set of 1 and 7/16  bushings, so I could use 3/8 inches of
  washer, etc. and properly fill the gap.  McMaster has oil embedded
  thrust bearings in 1/8 and 1/16 for a little over a buck, so only about
  $7 per shock, only about $30 total.  This seems like a good solution,
  any comments?
  Ken

References

  1. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
  2. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
  3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com

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   You are correct that if the ears are warn, the right figure could
   compensate. But I don't think they are warn, so the center should be
   OK.  I like being able to use the shims to keep the rubber from being
   squeezed.  The shims also would let me correct for any lateral
   misalignment in the ears.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:41 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings
   fit between ears?
     Sounds like a plan.  I am reading your plan as the center
   illustration.
     Something that might affect your stacking dimensions would be the
   area
     around the holes in the ears have been rounded thinner than the main
     ear thickness due to tighting to the steel tube.  Thus the far right
     illustration could compensated for damaged ear holes
     Joe
     From: Ken Green [mailto:[1]kenn_green at yahoo.com]
     Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 13:39 PM
     To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
     Cc: [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber
   bushings
     fit between ears?
     Hi Joe,
         Ya, it's a 3 piece design.
         I was playing around with parts last night and noticed that the
     steel tube in some misc control arm bushings I have are 1 and 13/16
   and
     a perfect fit between the ear, and also have the right 3/4 inch OD
   for
     the plastic parts.  I can use the 1 7/16 plastic parts with the 1
   13/16
     tubes and use 3/4 inch washers to center the bushings.  Then I can
   fit
     the washers to snugly, not tightly, fill the gaps with the metal tube
     held tightly between the ears.  I like this approach and I think this
     lets the parts work the way they are intended.
     Ken

   _______________________________________________________________________
     From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[1][3]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
     To: 'Ken Green' <[2][4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
     Cc: [3][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:35 PM
     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber
   bushings
     fit between ears?
     Are the bushings a 3 piece design, That is an inner sleeve and
   rubbers
     for each side?
     I would think the shock would be similar to the arm bushings in that
     the "sleeve" would allow you to solidly clamp down on the bolt
   without
     compressing the rubber.
     Will the shock width allow the use of the 1.44" bushings?  Is so,
   using
     plain steel washers to make the length of the sleeve to fit the 1.81"
     ears.
     Joe/5177
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso
   [mailto:[4][6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
     Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 17:55 PM
     To: DeTomaso List
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Shimms to make narrower shock absorber bushings
   fit
     between ears?
     I have new shock absorbers that came with bushings to wide to easily
     fit between the mount ears.  I received a drawing from Joe Byre
     (thanks) that showed the ears to be 46 +- .5 mm, or about 1 and
   13/16.
     The shock bushings are 1 and 7/8, 1/16 wider.  While I could muscle
     them in and then tighten the bolts, the result is likely to cause
   early
     shock failure because the shocks cannot be so tight that they cannot
     slightly pivot, and being pinched between the ears may cause early
     failure (confirmed by the manufacturer).
     I also have a set of 1 and 7/16  bushings, so I could use 3/8 inches
   of
     washer, etc. and properly fill the gap.  McMaster has oil embedded
     thrust bearings in 1/8 and 1/16 for a little over a buck, so only
   about
     $7 per shock, only about $30 total.  This seems like a good solution,
     any comments?
     Ken
   References
     1. mailto:[7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com
     2. mailto:[8]kenn_green at yahoo.com
     3. mailto:[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     4. mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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