[DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage

Dave davel at emspace.com
Thu Jun 9 17:34:19 EDT 2016


Kurt - I watched that video and thought "damn that was fun".

Then about 2 hours later I thought "damn that was fast".
Then I remembered hearing a bunch of compression and what sounded like
7000 rpm.
dave


On 6/9/2016 1:15 PM, Kurt Byrnes wrote:
> Thanks Charles.  Love your TD.  Mine was red for a long time as well.
> They are really quite basic but great fun to drive.
>
> Larry, I will most certainly be racing at Pittsburgh.  It is the
> highlight of my summer.  Hope you can make it.
>
> It is a fantastic car to race.  Even if you go beyond it's limits, it
> almost never goes terribly wrong.
>
> So here's what's been done:
> Modern billet crank, rods and pistons.  Compression ratio is about
> 10.5:1.  I run a full race cam, light weight lifters and valve springs
> out of England.  Although lots of guys run an aluminum "Laystall"
> head, I still have a ported and shaved cast iron head. Carbs are TF 1
> 1/2" vs stock 1 1/4".  Stock red line was 5200, I try to shift around
> 6500 now.  I run an external, belt driven single stage wet sump oil
> pump and the oil pan has been baffled. The stock oil pumps fail at
> higher rpms.  It's quite loud, open exhaust through a stainless
> header.  Stock, they made 56bhp.  I'm probably making 120-130bhp now.
>
> I added a big MGB swaybar in the front as well as shorter, stiffer
> front springs and some shims under the a-arms to correct steering
> geometry.  In the back I have 1" lowering blocks and MG-TF leaf
> springs which drop it another 1/2" or so.  I have 5.11 and 4.83 rear
> ends for short or long tracks.
>
> I always thought the brakes were pretty good.  I raced for years on
> stock shoes but switched to Porterfield linings last year.  The
> biggest difference I see is significantly less brake dust.  I've
> always been able to lock the brakes.
>
> I'm one of the last guys to still run full fenders instead of the
> cycle fenders.  There's definitely weight and aerodynamics
> disadvantages but I like the way it looks.  I can't get the top speed
> some of the other guys get but I know I've gotten close to 120MPH in a
> car made with wood.
>
> Here's a lap and spin at PVGP from 2014.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDSHmbGokoE
>
> Kurt
>
> On 6/9/2016 2:58 PM, Charles McCall wrote:
>> The NPC may get more NPC....
>>
>> Kurt, I've spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of my folks' '52
>> MG-TD and I have to say that I am amazed at your video.
>>
>> I find it my parents' car a fascinating and fun car to drive -
>> everything is
>> so mechanical and manual... makes all kind of nice noises and lots of
>> sensations.
>>
>> That being said, I have commented to my wife on several occasions that I
>> find it amazing that this car was used as a RACE car. I have been
>> out-accelerated by local kids on their bicycles, and I begin planning
>> several hours in advance before braking to make sure that I can brake on
>> time. Fun? Definitely. Fast? Well...
>>
>> So I was blown away by your video. How much of that car is stock? It
>> sure
>> doesn't sound like my parents' car, and it looks like your brakes
>> actually
>> work. Acceleration looks more than respectable.
>>
>> Is this like the difference between a bone-stock '72 on Arriva tires
>> and a
>> GT4 Le Mans racer? Is your '51 heavily heavily modified, or is it just
>> well-tuned?
>>
>> Curious because there is a world of difference between the two nominally
>> similar cars...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kurt Byrnes
>> Sent: miércoles, 8 de junio de 2016 20:07
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage
>>
>> Thanks everyone.  I'm driving my 1951 MG TD.  This was the second
>> feature race for our group.  The first race was won by an Elva Mk II.  I
>> took second place.  They handicapped the Elva back to fourth place so I
>> was on the pole for the second race.  Everyone, including me, expected
>> him to overtake me in the first lap so I had made plans to swap
>> positions a few times with a friend as long as we held the Elva off.
>> Put on a show and all that.  The Elva passed him almost immediately so I
>> was just trying to stay in front.  Fortunately for me, every time he
>> would get close to me, we would be lapping traffic and I was able to
>> pass at full throttle and he would have to wait to get through a corner.
>>
>> Larry, I'll be at the event again this year so come on out.
>>
>> Another event any east coast folks should really consider is the
>> Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix at Schenley Park.  In addition to being
>> the only U.S. vintage race held on city streets, there is a HUGE car
>> show all around the race course.  This year's marque for the Italian
>> section is DeTomaso!  See http://www.pvgp.org/
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On 6/8/2016 12:30 AM, Mike Drew wrote:
>>> Kurt,
>>>
>>> Looks to me like there was a race and somebody forgot to tell everyone
>> else they were in it!!!
>>> Well done!
>>>
>>> What is it you're driving? Looks like a Morgan maybe?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Kurt Byrnes <kdb at kbyrnes.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's a few bits of a race I did last summer at Put-In-Bay Ohio.
>>>> Back
>> in the 50's, there were road races on the island.  A few years ago, some
>> friends wanted to honor the old races and restart racing on the island.
>> Put-In-Bay Road Race Reunion was born.  There are round table
>> discussions
>> with old racers who raced back in the day, a re-enactment of the old
>> course,
>> rocker cover races, etc.  The website is http://pibroadrace.com/
>>>>
>>>> The races are now run at the airport.  For two days, they close it
>>>> down
>> in the morning, build the course with hay bales, we race, and they
>> tear it
>> all back down so planes can land by evening.
>>>>
>>>> They have an exhibition class that may let Pantera's in so if you're
>> looking for something to do in late August, come on out.  Races are held
>> during the week since PIB is supposed to be the adult version of spring
>> break every weekend in the summer.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerjbkhmBCU
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