[DeTomaso] POCA

James coyne tecnosound at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 8 11:28:58 EDT 2016


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> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:43:22 +0000
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: edducati at mac.com
> CC: gonancy at juno.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
> 
> Dear Ed,
> 
> 
> 
>                    I do appreciate your efforts at mediation, but given 
> the phenomenon of the Michael Short era, I think that the increasing 
> number of good people that have volunteered their time and efforts to 
> support POCA, who are proactively leaving or planning on letting their 
> membership lapse,  speaks to a fundamental problem that won't be 
> resolved by stepping away from the computer screen...........
> 
> 
>                                Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ed Mendez wrote:
> 
> > Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who love 
> > you. We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't 
> > agree with? Quit because of a family member you don't get along with? 
> > If we all did that none of us would be working in our day jobs, or 
> > have a family at all.
> >
> > I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother and 
> > that would really piss off my mom.
> >
> > Just saying.
> > Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen for a 
> > while, there's a whole big world out there.
> >
> >
> >
> >      ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
> >
> >> On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of your 
> >> POCA
> >> membership - right now the leadership is proving to be just plain
> >> polarizing.  Just don't let go of this forum!  And, one day, when 
> >> hoof in
> >> mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin.
> >>
> >> Stephen Nelson
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
> >> Behalf
> >> Of gonancy at juno.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM
> >> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA
> >>
> >> Dear Forum,
> >>     Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and
> >> spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put it 
> >> out to
> >> the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney know that 
> >> I am
> >> ending my membership in POCA effective immediately.  That means my 
> >> associate
> >> member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving also. Mike has the June 
> >> issue
> >> at the printer's right now. It will be his last issue.    As an 
> >> aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA website,
> >> even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate member, not a 
> >> "true "
> >> member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it.  How 
> >> do you
> >> like that?  Makes him sound like a second class citizen.
> >> It's been a great 25 years,
> >> GoNancy Haney
> >>
> >> P.S.  I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was all 
> >> I could
> >> do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I could not
> >> believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a real piece 
> >> of work.
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> Nextiva vFAX
> >> Why Do You Still Have An Old Fax Machine?
> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5757934166446134075b2st03vuc
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >      ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
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   > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:43:22 +0000
   > From: cengles at cox.net
   > To: edducati at mac.com
   > CC: gonancy at juno.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
   >
   > Dear Ed,
   >
   >
   >
   > I do appreciate your efforts at mediation, but given
   > the phenomenon of the Michael Short era, I think that the increasing
   > number of good people that have volunteered their time and efforts to
   > support POCA, who are proactively leaving or planning on letting
   their
   > membership lapse, speaks to a fundamental problem that won't be
   > resolved by stepping away from the computer screen...........
   >
   >
   > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ed Mendez wrote:
   >
   > > Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who
   love
   > > you. We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't
   > > agree with? Quit because of a family member you don't get along
   with?
   > > If we all did that none of us would be working in our day jobs, or
   > > have a family at all.
   > >
   > > I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother
   and
   > > that would really piss off my mom.
   > >
   > > Just saying.
   > > Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen
   for a
   > > while, there's a whole big world out there.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > ------------------------------
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
   > >
   > >> On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve at snclocks.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >> Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of
   your
   > >> POCA
   > >> membership - right now the leadership is proving to be just plain
   > >> polarizing. Just don't let go of this forum! And, one day, when
   > >> hoof in
   > >> mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin.
   > >>
   > >> Stephen Nelson
   > >>
   > >> -----Original Message-----
   > >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
   On
   > >> Behalf
   > >> Of gonancy at juno.com
   > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM
   > >> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA
   > >>
   > >> Dear Forum,
   > >> Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and
   > >> spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put
   it
   > >> out to
   > >> the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney know
   that
   > >> I am
   > >> ending my membership in POCA effective immediately. That means my
   > >> associate
   > >> member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving also. Mike has the
   June
   > >> issue
   > >> at the printer's right now. It will be his last issue. As an
   > >> aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA website,
   > >> even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate member, not
   a
   > >> "true "
   > >> member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it.
   How
   > >> do you
   > >> like that? Makes him sound like a second class citizen.
   > >> It's been a great 25 years,
   > >> GoNancy Haney
   > >>
   > >> P.S. I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was
   all
   > >> I could
   > >> do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I could
   not
   > >> believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a real
   piece
   > >> of work.
   > >>
   > >> ____________________________________________________________
   > >> Nextiva vFAX
   > >> Why Do You Still Have An Old Fax Machine?
   > >>
   http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5757934166446134075b2st03vuc
   > >> _______________________________________________
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not
   > >> exceed 1.5
   > >> Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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   etc.)
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   > >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
   > >> list.
   > >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive
   or
   > >> approve
   > >> the archiving of list messages.
   > >>
   > >> _______________________________________________
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA
   > >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
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   > >
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   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
   > >
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   >
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