[DeTomaso] POCA business on this forum
Dave
dave at damardirect.com
Tue Jun 7 13:17:27 EDT 2016
Can someone enlighten me, please?
I am/was under the impression this email list or forum was rescued from being dissolved by Kurt. (thank you Kurt) I was also under the impression this site was not part of or controlled by POCA..
Is this true?
Thanks
IndyDave
-----Original Message-----
From: msm at portata.com [mailto:msm at portata.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:53 PM
To: scottcouchman at yahoo.com; Rod Kunishige
Cc: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA business on this forum
Rod -- you are always welcome here. Thank you for your many years of contributions to POCA and the greater DeTomaso community.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Scott Couchman via DeTomaso" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: "Rod Kunishige" <rkunishige at hotmail.com>
Cc: "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: 6/6/2016 5:30:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA business on this forum
>"You seem to be someone bound and determined to stir up trouble, up
>until now, I have tried to
>remain quiet, in your last diatribe, I think it was "until Michael
>Shortt stops messing with me" or something to that effect,
>you would stop having these fits of verbal and textual diarrhea.
>
>Frankly, I haven't given you another thought, you simply are not part
>of any equation on my worksheet.
>
>You simply are a waste of my time which could be better used for
>something to benefit the membership instead of dealing
>with what seems to be a clinically depressed, anti social personality
>type addicted to drama.
>
>That's changed, at the next BOD meeting I will be seeking to censure
>you as a member for violating our policies, for sharing
>BOD working emails and for not working within channels. I believe in an
>earlier email, Ed made the process very clear,
>go through your Chapter President or contact one of us directly,
>instead of posting your failures and inability to comprehend
>structure and civility.
>
>If you make another very poor decision to continue these actions, I
>will seek a second censure in 30 days and ask to remove
>you from this club.
>
>I am not the only one tried of your behavior, there are enough votes
>now in place to secure both outcomes.
>
>This is the last time that I will ask you to become a team player and
>use your energies to help make POCA a better club instead
>of trying to destroy it from within.
>
>Michael Shortt
>President
>POCA"
>
>Wow! Really? I thought this was a car club?
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Rod Kunishige <rkunishige at hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> Am I to be removed from the POCA?
>> Rod
>>
>> From: michaelsavga at gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:34:45 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA business on this forum
>> To: rkunishige at hotmail.com
>> CC: jpoca2 at hotmail.com; JDeRyke at aol.com; MBGlobalSc at aol.com;
>>jb841 at cox.net; RREIDCPA at aol.com; paso750 at gmail.com; qrtlow at gmail.com;
>>edducati at mac.com
>>
>>
>> Mr. Kunishige,
>>
>> It appears the theme of a nicer, more friendly, and organized POCA
>>which operates through channels escapes you.
>>
>> It also appears a sitting BOD member is sharing BOD ONLY emails with
>>you, that member should know that
>> when I find them out, I will put forth a motion to censure them for
>>violating BOD policy.
>>
>> Since you are not an elected member of the BOD, you are not entitled
>>to our work emails, discussions or methodologies
>> used to arrive at how we do business, once formatted, discussed
>>amongst ourselves, these same issues
>> are put forth in an agenda, discussed during an Open BOD meeting
>>where all members can hear how we take care of business.
>> I think with the exception of the last 3 minutes of the last BOD
>>meeting, it was an excellent example of how civil discourse
>> can happen even between people with disparate points of view.
>>
>> It is called a process, nothing happens by itself, I think the last
>>10 years of POCA pretty much proves that point.
>>
>> In regard to your past, an inability to maintain a job or to operate
>>a business successfully relates to our situation how?
>> While owning a toy store would be a dream for somebody like me,
>>everybody knows that 4 out of 5 new businesses fail in the first year
>> and of those, 4 out of 5 will never see a fifth year, so your chance
>>of still operating a toy store for five years was only 10% at best.
>> Here is why most new businesses fail.
>>
>> 1 Incompetence
>> 46 %
>> Emotional Pricing
>>
>> Living too high for the business
>>
>> Nonpayment of taxes
>>
>> No knowledge of pricing
>>
>> Lack of planning
>>
>> No knowledge of financing
>>
>> No experience in record-keeping
>> 2 Unbalanced Experience or Lack of Managerial Experience
>> 30 %
>> Poor credit granting practices
>>
>> Expansion too rapid
>>
>> Inadequate borrowing practices
>> 3 Lack of Experiences in line of goods or services
>> 11 %
>> Carry inadequate inventory
>>
>> No knowledge of suppliers
>>
>> Wasted advertising budget
>> 5 Neglect, fraud, disaster
>> 1 %
>>
>>
>>
>> Nobody judges you, we have all had failures, if you don't try, that's
>>the biggest failure of all.
>>
>> You seem to be someone bound and determined to stir up trouble, up
>>until now, I have tried to
>> remain quiet, in your last diatribe, I think it was "until Michael
>>Shortt stops messing with me" or something to that effect,
>> you would stop having these fits of verbal and textual diarrhea.
>>
>> Frankly, I haven't given you another thought, you simply are not part
>>of any equation on my worksheet.
>>
>> You simply are a waste of my time which could be better used for
>>something to benefit the membership instead of dealing
>> with what seems to be a clinically depressed, anti social personality
>>type addicted to drama.
>>
>> That's changed, at the next BOD meeting I will be seeking to censure
>>you as a member for violating our policies, for sharing
>> BOD working emails and for not working within channels. I believe in
>>an earlier email, Ed made the process very clear,
>> go through your Chapter President or contact one of us directly,
>>instead of posting your failures and inability to comprehend
>> structure and civility.
>>
>> If you make another very poor decision to continue these actions, I
>>will seek a second censure in 30 days and ask to remove
>> you from this club.
>>
>> I am not the only one tried of your behavior, there are enough votes
>>now in place to secure both outcomes.
>>
>> This is the last time that I will ask you to become a team player and
>>use your energies to help make POCA a better club instead
>> of trying to destroy it from within.
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>> President
>> POCA
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> What part of “the email list should not be used to discuss POCA
>>business”, "bring your grievances to your chapter president”, and
>>“take it offline” did you not understand?
>>
>> By you copying members and non members of POCA on this email list
>>with your grievances, and personal issues with Michael Shortt; you are
>>placing the whole club in a negative light. This is adversely
>>effecting the clubs ability to recruit new members.
>>
>> Copying the BOD.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 6/06/2016, at 10:11, Rod Kunishige <rkunishige at hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >
>> > Ed Menedez,
>> >
>> > You say that facts are clearly important to you.
>> >
>> > So, let me quote you some snippets taken directly from MS May 16,
>>2016
>> > email Subject: Newsletter and Profiles printing/design
>>henceforth:
>> >
>> > O/ Meanwhile, as a part of this change will also come full
>>color
>> > printing on all pages in both the Newsletter / Profiles, a new
>>printer,
>> > and mailing partner.
>> >
>> > O/ The existing printer will not print anything else for
>>POCA
>> > after the June newsletter.
>> >
>> > O/ Your new printing partner is PrintingCenterUSA,
>> >
>> > O/ effective immediately we will begin to adopt layout
>> > designs/templa tes which will dedicate 20% of the total space to
>> > advertising content display.
>> > the Newsletter needs to be 32 total pages each month, 5 pages in
>>total
>> > space needs to be evenly distributed in 1/8 page, 1/4, 1/3. & 1/2
>>page
>> > horitzontal ads and 1/2 page vertical ads plus a full page ad.
>> >
>> > O/ You will need to coordinate with Ed with proofs so that
>>he will
>> > have the final say on ad placement before adthing is printed.
>> >
>> > O/ The vendor listings are to be removed. They will have to
>>buy
>> > ads to reach our memb ers.
>> >
>> > O/ We also need to use ONLY the newly revised/cleaned up
>>POCA Road
>> > Script and POCA crest.
>> >
>> > Completely detailed specifications are also set as fixed space
>> > allocations for both pubs without consideration for content
>> > adjustments.
>> >
>> > My view is that these are clearly directives not suggestions to
>> > consider to fellow POCA Board Members.
>> >
>> > Ed, should you wish to challenge these facts, Ill be most pleased
>>to
>> > publish the email in its entirety so everyone may view it within
>>its
>> > full context.
>> > NOTE: There seems to be a need to know the qualifications of the
>> > writers who post here. So, let me explain that my career of 35
>>years
>> > was in Information Technology ending as VP of IT. I also owned
>>and
>> > operated a mailing house directing publications in the SF Bay
>>Area for
>> > 4 years and owned and operated a 9,000 sq ft independent Toy
>>Store for
>> > 5 years. Hope this helps the readers who wish to know my
>>background. I
>> > LOVE this club and vendors. Its members have helped me
>>throughout the
>> > decades.
>> > Rod
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>> >
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael L. Shortt
>> Savannah, Georgia
>> www.michaelshortt.com
>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>> 912-232-9390
>>
>>
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