[DeTomaso] Rear Window Cracked.....again
Larry - Ohio Time
Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Sat Jul 30 14:31:55 EDT 2016
<< There are some terrible after market rubbers floating around.>>
I could be in trouble...
Larry (no rhythm) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Roland
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:57 AM
To: Don Thomas
Cc: Pantera Mail List; Ken Green
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Window Cracked.....again
Did you check your rubber? There are some terrible after market rubbers
floating around.
Gesendet vom Irgendwo im Nirgendwo.
> Am 30.07.2016 um 17:26 schrieb Don Thomas <don.thomas.ieee at gmail.com>:
>
> Trim the glass (Pattern) an addition 1/16th of an inch all
> around.A That is what an old time Pantera guy told me what to do when I
> had to replace the glass...A That worked perfect.A
> If you are cracking the glass ... it's obviously stressed... and it's
> pushing to hard on the rubber.A A Like mentioned before, float the
> glass.
> Enjoy,
> -dt
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
> A A Seems like you should inspect the edge of the glass if the
> window is
> A A out, and smooth out any nicks.A I think that is where cracks
> start.
> A A Ken
> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A From: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> A A To: michael frazier <[3]red3644 at hotmail.com>; Rob Dumoulin
> A A <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>; Matt Wells <[5]nwpantera at gmail.com>
> A A Cc: Pantera Mail List <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 8:38 PM
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Window Cracked.....again
> A A I hit my window a few times with a ratchet over the years, and
> never
> A A cracked it.
> A A I removed it when I had the car painted, and I polished the
> roughness
> A A out
> A A before reinstalling it.A As I pushed the final time to get it
> in it
> A A popped.A I was pushing with the palm of my hand, and I
> wasnA^1t pushing
> A A that
> A A hard.
> A A So, I had a new one made with safety glass, and this one went
> in with
> A A no
> A A drama.
> A A ThatA^1s my story anyway.
> A A On 7/25/16, 10:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of michael frazier"
> A A <[1][7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>
> A A [2][8]red3644 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> A A >A I've replaced a couple of rear windows over the years with
> glass and
> A A >A plastic units.
> A A >
> A A >A None were badly cracked but just had stars, probably from a
> A A misguided
> A A >A ratchet or
> A A >
> A A >A some other tool.A I'm looking at the pinch weld area of 6643
> right
> A A >A now.A It's double
> A A >
> A A >A walled and a little wavy but it's hard to imagine it being so
> out of
> A A >A shape that it would
> A A >
> A A >A cause a hot spot / pressure point severe enough to break the
> glass
> A A >A through the gasket.
> A A >
> A A >A I'd still put a straight edge on it and flatten it out as well
> as I
> A A >A could.A I doubt body flex
> A A >
> A A >A caused it since the glass and gasket actually float a bit in
> the
> A A >A opening...unless you're
> A A >
> A A >A using some kind of rigid adhesives...then all bets are off.A
> They
> A A >A should go in quite easily
> A A >
> A A >A if sized correctly.A I gave Mike Drew a tracing of a late
> model
> A A window
> A A >A some time ago FWIW.
> A A >
> A A >
> A A >A Michael Frazier
> A A >
> A A >
> A A >A From: [1]Rob Dumoulin
> A A >A Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 8:08 PM
> A A >A To: [2]Matt Wells
> A A >A Cc: [3]Pantera Mail List
> A A >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Window Cracked.....again
> A A >
> A A >
> A A >A I did not think that the glass was adding structural
> integrity, but
> A A >A instead
> A A >A thought somehow that the car being on stands two weeks, which
> may
> A A have
> A A >A been
> A A >A closer to three weeks, tweaked the opening just enough that it
> the
> A A >A glass
> A A >A were a little off it might have been snug on install then
> cracked
> A A >A during
> A A >A driving.
> A A >A I did not inspect the glass prior to install and was not able
> to be
> A A >A there
> A A >A when it was done, but my glass guy is a stand up talented guy
> and
> A A will
> A A >A redo
> A A >A it for free. I plan to pass any advice from you guys to him.
> A A >A You are correct that the 5 point harness bar is installed, and
> it
> A A was
> A A >A not
> A A >A installed when the first glass was put in. However, the bar is
> a
> A A >A perfect
> A A >A fit and has no extra pressure added to make the bolts thread.
> If
> A A >A anything,
> A A >A I would think it would add support.
>
> A A >A On Jul 25, 2016 5:40 PM, "Matt" <[3][9]nwpantera at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> A A >A > "Is it possible that the car being on jack stands could have
> A A tweaked
> A A >A the
> A A >A > car enough to cause
> A A >A >A A the glass to bind as it re-tweaked to its natural
> state?"
> A A >A > "Does anybody think it has anything to do with it being on
> jack
> A A >A stands
> A A >A >A A prior to glass entry"
> A A >A >
> A A >A > Rob what is probably nagging your subconsciousness is the
> idea
> A A that
> A A >A the
> A A >A > rear glass is a part vital to the structural integrity of
> the car,
> A A >A and
> A A >A > without it being in place the shape will change during
> jacking.
> A A >A > I'm no engineer but that idea sounds absurd and you should
> A A eliminate
> A A >A it
> A A >A > from your trouble shooting thought process.
> A A >A > Sure they flex some, but rather the idea of an imperfection
> in the
> A A >A seating
> A A >A > like Mike D. said sounds more plausible.
> A A >A > Is the opening entirely straight sitting on the ground? Is
> there
> A A >A extreme
> A A >A > heat near the suspect cracked areas? Was the glass properly
> A A de-burred
> A A >A of
> A A >A > all sharp edges? Do you have a seat belt bar mounted to the
> A A firewall
> A A >A that
> A A >A > might be preloading it?
> A A >A > Just shots in the dark.
> A A >A > Best of luck,
> A A >A > Matt
> A A >A > 3584
> A A >A >
> A A >A >
> A A >
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> A A >
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